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I take it that's a "No, I haven't".Just try and make freinds with someone who is good at talking to girls and learn from them.
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I take it that's a "No, I haven't".Just try and make freinds with someone who is good at talking to girls and learn from them.
Vadim has some good tips, especially with night game.I think we probably have similar opinions in terms of who to listen too and coaches etc.
Lots of the guys people rave about (corey wayne, robert greene, ross jefferies, that rationalmale dude etc etc) are just dudes who wrote books, but do I honestly think any of them are gonna be able to pull the girls in a bar or whatever that I want? Of course not. Writing about different types of 'seducers' or about psychology etc is one thing, but actually being able to pull hot girls is something entirely different, and I wouldn't be scared at all if I was gaming some hot 19 year old, and then one of them guys stepped in whilst I was in the bathroom. I know the reaction they'd get and how it would go
Lots of PUAs who I thought were great back in the day and when I was new, I no longer am impressed when I re-watch their infields.
Basically nobody is blowing my mind or doing much that actually impresses me or that I cant do. Or that any of my friends can't do! They're approaching lots of girls, and when they approach a girl who thinks he's cute or whatever, they have enough game to seal teh deal. Great. But lets not throw them a parade.
Of course there are some that are better than others. I do think Julien is one of the best, personally. I also think Vadim from honest signals is worth a mention. AMS is scared to cold approach and made excuses to not approach a group of young girls who he seemed to be interested in. Just talks a good 'alpha game'. Same with most of the redpillers from what i've seen. Just manly waffle.
But as I say, even the guys who are the very very best, aren't out there doing what much of the material says one can do with game. (effectively 'seduce' whoever they want, in spite of initial attraction) THAT has never been caught on camera, or anywhere else.
In my own personal opinion, ARC is probably the best.Yes, she is very good. Alan Roger Currie is also VERY good.
Good post. I would just change the sentence below.A woman’s drive is manipulation. That means everything she says is by the purpose of her selfishness and manipulation, whether she respects you or not. There is a difference between a guy who is asking you for your age just for a friendly conversation and a difference between a girl asking you for the age for the means of manipulation/ by using it against you later on. Women are never interested in you, they are only interested in how you make them feel. So why would she care then about your age? It’s because manipulation. Women are deceptive by nature and manipulation is their primary weapon. That’s why we look at woman’s actions and not their words
This guy came up on here before I think. I looked him up and yes, the one video saw I was good. Sensible no bull**** advice.Rom Wills is very solid.
Have you actually read Woujo’s posts? He has some very insightful ideas that I’ve found very useful. Some of his material is immature and , I made those comments to him directly.LMFAO @James Cruse you are woefully misguided. Wuojo is some sexually frustrated Indian dude who got no sex in his 20s. I have seen UMP do coaching sessions here in Miami, they hired an escort to be their wingwoman.
I’ve read and listened to all of JMulvs material and he’s a hack fraud. His material is all copied from other people.You should ALL look into JMLUV/John Anthony Lifestyle, total scumbag but overall he is legit in terms of getting laid.
Wuojo posted spam on the red pill reddit about men in their 30s that chase women for being awful people that never got any growing up. Typical Indian incel IMO.Have you actually read Woujo’s posts? He has some very insightful ideas that I’ve found very useful. Some of his material is immature and , I made those comments to him directly.
Woujo is Arab, NOT Indian - so you’re misinformed.
First of all, UMP is in the honorable mentions bud. I live in Australia and Markus Wolf lives near me. I’ve seen him out and met at least 7 of his students and counting and all of them have praised him (not so much Alex) and I see these guys around regularly and they have alot of success. I met one again who just started a LTR with a great girl, ao you don’t have much info there. No idea about the Vegas thing. The problem with their material is there is alot of it and it’s overly gamey.
Do you have ANY comments about the other material I listed or were you just trying to muddy the water? Have you read or watched anything else in that list?
I’ve read and listened to all of JMulvs material and he’s a hack fraud. His material is all copied from other people.
Jmulv hasn’t been with thousands of women, his online dating guide is ok at best, but there is better out there and his actual infield pickups are the worst infields I’ve ever seen of anyone in the industry - EVER. His infields are so cringeworthy, I actually feel bad for him.
So no, I really wouldn’t recommend JMulv.
I was with you until you recommended jmulv! He's so so bad. Complete fraud. His infields alone are god awful. And then he was exposed by sonny to have been using sugar babes and hiring girls for his bootcamps so his students thought his lines were working etc. I don't believe he has any 'game' whatsoever. IF he gets laid, it's just a result of playing extreme numbers game on drunk Vegas tourists who maybe like very tall guys lol. Not that there's much wrong with that, but there's certainly no 'skill' or whatever that he has. Then he moved to columbia or somtehing? presumably for white rich privelege game?LMFAO @James Cruse you are woefully misguided. Wuojo is some sexually frustrated Indian dude who got no sex in his 20s. I have seen UMP do coaching sessions here in Miami, they hired an escort to be their wingwoman.
You should ALL look into JMLUV/John Anthony Lifestyle, total scumbag but overall he is legit in terms of getting laid.
one of my best openers is still “ hey . What”s your name “ , especially for evening / nightI was with you until you recommended jmulv! He's so so bad. Complete fraud. His infields alone are god awful. And then he was exposed by sonny to have been using sugar babes and hiring girls for his bootcamps so his students thought his lines were working etc. I don't believe he has any 'game' whatsoever. IF he gets laid, it's just a result of playing extreme numbers game on drunk Vegas tourists who maybe like very tall guys lol. Not that there's much wrong with that, but there's certainly no 'skill' or whatever that he has. Then he moved to columbia or somtehing? presumably for white rich privelege game?
His whole 'method' is open' Hi, can I meet you real quick' (bit of a begging opener, plus he mumbles it at 200 mph)
Then he tells her she's cute (direct game so hoping she thinks he's hot otherwise he's done! Again, nothing wrong with it, but how is that skill? same skill as swiping right on tinder!)
Then he pretends that he's a famous DJ (this is the only part I can see as 'game' I guess. A dhv story of sorts)
Then he asks how tall she is so he can mention he's 6ft 4
And finally he asks if she likes grey goose vodka and invites her and her friends back to his house party with his friends
that's basically the method
Most infields have no kissing or anything and i'm sure girls just go back for free drinks, or maybe one of her friends fancy one of jmulv's wingmen
He’s not Indian - he’s Arab and what you just said is a whole lot of nothing.Wuojo posted spam on the red pill reddit about men in their 30s that chase women for being awful people that never got any growing up. Typical Indian incel IMO.
Did you actually talk to any of UMP’s students like I did? No. So this is all silly speculationof you seeing these guys from a distance, so you have no idea.I have met Markus IRL and same with Alex, their students were clearly struggling and not getting results. Eventually, they had to rely on some photographer to get them results from online dating. Again, I am not sure how they are in Australia but in Miami they clearly struggled
I’ve used JMulv’s daygame, nightgame and online game method. His online game program I sent to a few friends and we tried it - no good.As for JMLUV, what proof do you have that he is a hack fraud?
Ok, well again, I said UMP was an honourable mention. Have you read all of Woujo’s posts in his collected posts book? Which ones in particular did you have an issue with?Having said that, I agree about woujo and too some extent UMP
Lets be honest. The whole community is kinda nonsense. Nobody out there is some 'seduction master' who can pull basically any girl he wants, even if wearing a realistic latex mask of a fairly unnattractive person lol. It's just a game of finding girls who like how you look, and then having enough 'game' to not drop the ball, BUT the bar is pretty damn low for that. There are no 'experts' kinda thing. I think me or probably anyone on this site has as much game and would get the same results in the body of any PUA 'expert' we can name. Infields show all of them getting rejected a **** load.
not especially, in that, like I say, once you are socially normal, your success is gonna be down to other variables. Not your 'game'.Do you have any recommendations brother?
Reading this, you haven’t seen or read ANY of the material in my recommendations I posted in this thread.not especially, in that, like I say, once you are socially normal, your success is gonna be down to other variables. Not your 'game'.
Yeah, Mike Haines took the best material from Julien, Tyler, Jeffy, Alex et al and other non-RSD coaches he knew and put it in his product - God Like Power that I listed.oh, and julien from RSD. I think he was pretty good too.