Do you think that fall is one of the best times of the year for dating?

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It is good that you are shedding your NEET status. It's difficult for a lot of women to understand a 29 year old man living at home. Your part time job while in school probably won't be a job that'll get panties to drop either, unless you give off a tattooed dirtbag type vibe. For instance, Walmart cashier women often have sex with deadbeat guys who don't have much going for them so long as they look decent and have a dirtbag vibe. Tattoos and a criminal record often help with this vibe. That's the angle you could play for getting women.

Keep doing what you're doing in improving. Realize that you have a long way to go.

How cool are your parents with your bringing home women for sex?
I agree, hopefully by me going to school and working part time that some of them will understand, I’m sure there will still be women who will write me off for it though. Yeah it probably won’t be, I live in a state where weed is legal so I was gonna try to get a part time job at a dispensary or a grow facility. I don’t know if that’s a job that will get panties to drop or not, maybe if I come across any women who like to smoke weed (there’s plenty of them in my area) then maybe it could help. Other than that, I was probably just gonna look into gig economy jobs like DoorDash since they’re so flexible by not having a set schedule or whatever else I can get just to make some money while I’m going to school, I know that either of those options aren’t gonna get panties to drop though.

Well I don’t have any tattoos, they’ve just never been my thing, but I could try still and aim for the dirtbag rebel type of vibe and see how it goes. I actually went with that starting back in high school and it was working pretty well back then, but the self fulfilling prophecy I had that made me believe that no women would ever like me ruined it all and I never got any dates back then because I never reciprocated, so they all moved on and stopped talking to me. Maybe that angle will work better now if that isn’t in the way this time.

Yes I have a very long way to go, because in addition to what I mentioned already, I also suffer from PIED. I don’t know if you believe in the whole NoFap and retention thing at all, but the term PIED originated from those communities and it stands for porn induced erectile dysfunction. When I had sex for the first time at 21, I realized that I had this because I really struggled to get it up but then continued to have no problem with that when I looked at porn. Its a psychological issue that’s caused by excessive exposure to porn and stimulation from it to where your brain and body’s sexual responses become hardwired to it. It can be reversed if you quit porn and pursue retention though, but they say it takes at least a few months to fully recover. That might mean that I won’t be recovered until this optimal dating time is over and we’re in a dead zone for new dates.

I never have the house to myself anymore ever since my dad retired, he’s pretty much become a hermit ever since then, so he’s never out of the house. It would be awkward the next morning with him there if I have a girl spend the night.
 
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You don't want a high-value woman.
I do want a high-value woman, but I feel like I shouldn’t be too picky to start out because I remember telling you before on another thread that I’ve never dated before and have no experience. I feel like most high-value women won’t be interested in a 29 year old inexperienced guy, so I just need to get started wherever I can and gain experience to work my way up to that.
 
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I do want a high-value woman, but I feel like I shouldn’t be too picky to start out because I remember telling you before on another thread that I’ve never dated before and have no experience. I feel like most high-value women won’t be interested in a 29 year old inexperienced guy, so I just need to get started wherever I can and gain experience to work my way up to that.
10s and 9s can are monetized so you do have a chance with them. Now for 8s and 7s that aren't mentally trashed, you are screwed because they are with guys from college. Your remaining options are mentally destroyed women, single mommies, fatties, and 49ers.
 

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10s and 9s can are monetized so you do have a chance with them. Now for 8s and 7s that aren't mentally trashed, you are screwed because they are with guys from college. Your remaining options are mentally destroyed women, single mommies, fatties, and 49ers.
I’m unemployed right now, so I definitely can’t monetize a 10 or 9 even when I start working part time. By the 8s and 7s I’m guessing you mean that they’re still with their bf’s that they met in college, I’m guessing that even if they were broken up from them, they probably wouldn’t go out with someone like me who has no higher education if she has that herself. There actually is a girl who was giving me signals back in high school who is now a recently divorced single mommy and I’ve fantasized about becoming FWB’s with her, but I don’t know how open single mommies are to having a FWB and I also haven’t talked to her since high school, which was 10 years ago and that would probably be weird to contact her out of the blue like that and ask her for a date.
 

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I do want a high-value woman, but I feel like I shouldn’t be too picky to start out because I remember telling you before on another thread that I’ve never dated before and have no experience. I feel like most high-value women won’t be interested in a 29 year old inexperienced guy, so I just need to get started wherever I can and gain experience to work my way up to that.
You are bringing yourself down lower if you go for thrashier types. You are not a bad person and should not dumpster dive to go with anyone. Imexperience is not the issue, finances and independence are. Should focus on that becase these types of relationships dont last and these women just lose respect and end up trashing everything anyway as they cant accept that a decent guy settled for them on a subconcious level. You end up wasting your time and feel worst off.
 
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Not sure, just gonna throw this out there.

Fall and spring is when people get mental excerbations. Become more sensitive and emotional.
 

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You are bringing yourself down lower if you go for thrashier types. You are not a bad person and should not dumpster dive to go with anyone. Imexperience is not the issue, finances and independence are. Should focus on that becase these types of relationships dont last and these women just lose respect and end up trashing everything anyway as they cant accept that a decent guy settled for them on a subconcious level. You end up wasting your time and feel worst off.
That’s good to know, thanks. I know that finances and independence are both pressing issues for me, that’s why I’m gonna be doing what I explained to SW15 and going back to school to get a better paying job and in the meantime, still work part time as well. Maybe I should aim higher than single mommies and mentally destroyed women like Jake said I should do in the reply above yours?
 

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That’s good to know, thanks. I know that finances and independence are both pressing issues for me, that’s why I’m gonna be doing what I explained to SW15 and going back to school to get a better paying job and in the meantime, still work part time as well. Maybe I should aim higher than single mommies and mentally destroyed women like Jake said I should do in the reply above yours?
Of course. I have bad experience enough and its something you dont need.
 
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I’m unemployed right now, so I definitely can’t monetize a 10 or 9 even when I start working part time. By the 8s and 7s I’m guessing you mean that they’re still with their bf’s that they met in college, I’m guessing that even if they were broken up from them, they probably wouldn’t go out with someone like me who has no higher education if she has that herself. There actually is a girl who was giving me signals back in high school who is now a recently divorced single mommy and I’ve fantasized about becoming FWB’s with her, but I don’t know how open single mommies are to having a FWB and I also haven’t talked to her since high school, which was 10 years ago and that would probably be weird to contact her out of the blue like that and ask her for a date.
Well I would work on getting a job lined up first before even considering dating my dude.
 

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Fall has allot of creative ideas to involve women so there is lots of dating ideas. Fall colour tours, art and studio tours, hiking in the woods, thanksgiving dinners, etc... Hope you find someone to share the season with and make memories. I still have residual memories from an exgf I did share that season with.
 

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I agree, hopefully by me going to school and working part time that some of them will understand, I’m sure there will still be women who will write me off for it though. Yeah it probably won’t be, I live in a state where weed is legal so I was gonna try to get a part time job at a dispensary or a grow facility. I don’t know if that’s a job that will get panties to drop or not, maybe if I come across any women who like to smoke weed (there’s plenty of them in my area) then maybe it could help. Other than that, I was probably just gonna look into gig economy jobs like DoorDash since they’re so flexible by not having a set schedule or whatever else I can get just to make some money while I’m going to school, I know that either of those options aren’t gonna get panties to drop though.
I like the way you think with women and weed. Plenty of women like weed.

You're going to have to find a niche market. I'd avoid all of the bougie, yuppie college educated women and focus on the bartender, waitress, and retail worker types. See next comments.

Well I don’t have any tattoos, they’ve just never been my thing, but I could try still and aim for the dirtbag rebel type of vibe and see how it goes. I actually went with that starting back in high school and it was working pretty well back then, but the self fulfilling prophecy I had that made me believe that no women would ever like me ruined it all and I never got any dates back then because I never reciprocated, so they all moved on and stopped talking to me. Maybe that angle will work better now if that isn’t in the way this time.
I would definitely play up the dirtbag rebel guy angle. Hit on low income women, such as Walmart cashiers and other retail workers.

Yes I have a very long way to go, because in addition to what I mentioned already, I also suffer from PIED. I don’t know if you believe in the whole NoFap and retention thing at all, but the term PIED originated from those communities and it stands for porn induced erectile dysfunction. When I had sex for the first time at 21, I realized that I had this because I really struggled to get it up but then continued to have no problem with that when I looked at porn. Its a psychological issue that’s caused by excessive exposure to porn and stimulation from it to where your brain and body’s sexual responses become hardwired to it. It can be reversed if you quit porn and pursue retention though, but they say it takes at least a few months to fully recover. That might mean that I won’t be recovered until this optimal dating time is over and we’re in a dead zone for new dates.
I am one of the biggest believers in nofap and no porn on this board. Nofap and no porn is a lifestyle for me. It's not surprising you have PIED. You're going to have to do a long porn and masturbation detox if you haven't already done so. I've heard it's a 3-12 month reboot recovery. There's not a lot of point in dating unless your penis works correctly.
 

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Halloween is right around the corner. There will be lots of different dress up parties & events during that time. I won't be doing it this year as I am little old for that stuff but when I was younger I used to go to the big one's in the city they would throw at hotels and clubs. It really was like shooting fish in a barrel, especially if put thought into your costume/wore something unique.

I tend to associate the spring and summer time more with dating but i've had some good experiences in the fall. Same principle applies: look and be your best and get out there. Go where the women are they are looking to meet men. There's always stuff happening no matter the time of the year.
 

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Halloween is right around the corner. There will be lots of different dress up parties & events during that time. I won't be doing it this year as I am little old for that stuff but when I was younger I used to go to the big one's in the city they would throw at hotels and clubs. It really was like shooting fish in a barrel, especially if put thought into your costume/wore something unique.
Many men have a belief that Halloween parties are a good source for getting laid. While I think some men succeed, Halloween is overhyped as a gold mine for sex. In 2011, Roosh made essentially that point in an article when discussing if Halloween was the easiest day of the year to get laid. He called it a below average conversion day.


Even if Halloween is overhyped, that doesn't mean a person is best served by staying home and doing nothing on Halloween. I have been invited to a private residence party this year on the Friday night prior to Halloween this year. I'm wondering if I'll go to this parties since this party is at a suburban single family house and the party is being hosted by a married couple.

I tend to associate the spring and summer time more with dating but i've had some good experiences in the fall. Same principle applies: look and be your best and get out there. Go where the women are they are looking to meet men. There's always stuff happening no matter the time of the year.
This is mainly true, but that 6 week dead zone from November 15-January 1 is real. However, if you search enough, you can find opportunities even in the dead zone. The best types of opportunities in the dead zone come from social circle game. If you can get invited to one of those early December holiday season parties at someone's private residence, you might be able to find a single, unattached woman there who will date.

During dead zone, it is best to date women with family members who live locallly (50 miles or less). That way, she won't be traveling to family events during the holidays and will have availability to date.

It depends, here in Houston September to October is hot girl summer power hour because it's still 90 degrees then you have the dead zone lol. It doens't get cold cold til Late January-February and by March its 80s.
Even if the weather is reasonably warm in November and December in your city, November 15-January 1 is still a dead zone for starting new relationships due to the holiday season and various platonic social and familial commitments. The holiday season is usually unpleasant for the unattached man and the marginally attached man. That's why the Tuesday after Labor Day-November 14 period is your best chance for having a good sex life during that dead zone.

Starting in the night time hours of January 1 or on January 2, single women get motivated again. Some women who cuffed a beta in the Fall will keep their beta boyfriend around for Valentine's Day in February before dropping him in late February/early March.

I've even seen men keep their girlfriends around through the holiday season. One man I knew got a job in a new city that started in early January and he kept his girlfriend from his former city around through early March so he could have guaranteed Valentine's Day sex. I think this type of behavior is less common.
 
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