I think I got rejected cause I said I liked Andrew tate

[zekko]

On your date,
Her: What do you think of Andrew Tate?
You: I don’t know who that is.

Not gonna lie, I have no idea who he is, I had to look him up.

 

[devilkingx2]

Neither of you are completely wrong (or right). Some women do like men who express controversial opinions. If she is already attracted to you physically, you “standing up” for yourself may be a further turn on. However, if her level of attraction is not very high, she will use your “controversial” opinions as an excuse to disqualify you.

Having controversial opinions is kind of like being a jerk or making sexually suggestive comments. If you are a good looking/popular guy, you will probably get away with it and to some women may even find that attractive. If you are an average guy, you will be penalized.

I can see how it makes sense

A powerful man who goes his own way rather than being a pawn of others is a good thing.

A weak man who tries to go his own way will just lead himself and his foolish followers to ruin.

 

[Stuffnu]

Some of you need to recalibrate.
Don’t plan on getting laid with controversial topics on the first few dates.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
If she has long term potential down the road, then you can discuss political alignments, etc . $400 is wasting money over a BJ. If you maintain high interest, she’ll do that in the backseat of your car or home.

 

[Sgthaytham]

THIS! Really guys, leave out anything controversial... religion... politics... none of this is any fun. If some chick asks you about something controversial, just change the subject... tell her you are there to have fun... then be fun.

I date hard core conservative women, I date over the top wiccan progressives... I do fine with both, HOW... I don't talk about anything controversial. It's all about having fun.

This. 100% THIS.

Dates = Having fun.

 

[Pandora]

Tate is the new Trump. Orange man bad and British man bad. Ask them to give an actual qoute from the guy and they all go silent....clown world forreal.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

THIS! Really guys, leave out anything controversial... religion... politics... none of this is any fun. If some chick asks you about something controversial, just change the subject... tell her you are there to have fun... then be fun.

I date hard core conservative women, I date over the top wiccan progressives... I do fine with both, HOW... I don't talk about anything controversial. It's all about having fun.

I disagree 100%.

I'll ask them about politics, religion, death, etc, if they don't have satisfying, unique, or well thought out answers, I lose interest. It's their job to impress me, not the other way around.

I'm not intersted in dating a nihilist who gets their values from pop culture.

If you are afraid of being honest around a woman, then she's not worth being around.

...That said, it's better to say less. Not saying you should spill out all your anxieties to her.

 

[RangerMIke]

disagree. any woman with a brain loves it when you stand up for your beliefs even if your beliefs are unpopular. in fact you don't want to fit in. that makes you the nonpolar nice guy that women pretend to like but in fact hate.
politics, religion, anything controversial is fair game. I told this religious girl I hate religion. can't care less what she thinks.
if women you date go crazy if you stand up for yourself then clearly you are dating women that are superficial and stupid.
op - clearly the andrew tate thing wasn't an issue here. when a woman is turned off she is turned off immediately not 2 hours later.
by the way I genuinely don't know who that is, can't care less.

You have to have fun first... this sort of deep discussion about belief is when you have been dating for awhile and sh1t is getting serious.

I am not saying you should not stand up for your beliefs, if pushed then sure live your truth, but if you are on the first few dates and you have a chick that is pressing you for your beliefs then she isn't any fun. Normal sane women who like you don't do this. They like to figure you out, think about what you do and it's like doing a puzzle. They like to talk to their female friends and try and figure you out.

You are ruin her fun when you just plop who and what you are on the table. Women like it when you have a belief system and stick to your purpose. But they HATE men that are judgmental.

I disagree 100%.

I'll ask them about politics, religion, death, etc, if they don't have satisfying, unique, or well thought out answers, I lose interest. It's their job to impress me, not the other way around.

I'm not intersted in dating a nihilist who gets their values from pop culture.

If you are afraid of being honest around a woman, then she's not worth being around.

...That said, it's better to say less. Not saying you should spill out all your anxieties to her.

Okay... if it works for you do it. As I always say, do what you want to do and be true to yourself. Me I honestly don't give a fvck about a woman's belief system because I'm not interested in relationships. I suppose if I was then I might care about deep compatibility. To me... if she is pleasant, like the activities I plan, and is fun to be with that's all that matters.

Plenty of time to get into deep discussions if things develop. BTW... if you find a nihilist who gets her values from pop culture, that is in love with you, she will change. But if you don't give her a chance to fall for you it will never happen. It's the difference between reading a book and writing it. But you be you.

Plen

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Okay... if it works for you do it. As I always say, do what you want to do and be true to yourself. Me I honestly don't give a fvck about a woman's belief system because I'm not interested in relationships. I suppose if I was then I might care about deep compatibility. To me... if she is pleasant, like the activities I plan, and is fun to be with that's all that matters.

Plenty of time to get into deep discussions if things develop. BTW... if you find a nihilist who gets her values from pop culture, that is in love with you, she will change. But if you don't give her a chance to fall for you it will never happen. It's the difference between reading a book and writing it. But you be you.

Plen

Most women I've been with don't agree with my on heavy subjects and I don't expect them to. But I do agree that with a strong frame they'll comform and bend or at least accept your views.

 

[member160292]

Most women I've been with don't agree with my on heavy subjects and I don't expect them to. But I do agree that with a strong frame they'll comform and bend or at least accept your views.

So why correlate your political beliefs, etc with a ‘strong frame’. You think you’re going to turn a Vegan to a Venison connoisseur?

 

[Pandora]

Having controversial opinions is kind of like being a jerk or making sexually suggestive comments. If you are a good looking/popular guy, you will probably get away with it and to some women may even find that attractive. If you are an average guy, you will be penalized.

Facts lol....its crazy how this works.

 

[Pandora]

that's why I said any woman with a brain, aka any woman who realizes free thought should not be demonized.

LA raider is correct my friend. You are also correct but there are very few women with free thought. I bet you can't name 3 women who were pioneers in going against the grain. Being socially rejected is akin to death for a woman.

It is men that start fringe counterculture movements like Flat Earth ( I am not saying it is correct), Libertarian groups, Conspiracy Theory or RedPill etc. It is NEVER women.

Generally speaking, women are herd creatures. They don't deviate much from what the mainstream tells them. This is one of the reasons why the "elites" wanted to give women voting rights. They are easy to manipulate via peer pressure.

 

[derby1]

you're wrong. They like stability. Thinking outside the box is a sign of restlessness and instability, especially in modern culture where free thought is demonized.

one quick visit to any maternity ward across western society, suggests they get pregnant by anything but stability

 

[Hoodie]

Don't say that you agree with Andrew Tate on a general basis. Explain what you agree with him about (If the topic arises). This shows that you can think critically. If she disagrees, you explain your logic behind why you agree with what he said. If that logic makes more sense than her arguments (or lack of). It portrays you as more logical and dominant than her. If she is petty and childish and get's insulted because it conflicts with her flawed worldview, she's not the one.

This assumes that you have thought through what you agree with him on, and that it makes sense. Which is something you should've done before you ever brought the topic up. If she brought it up, just say you haven't made an opinion yet, or you can discuss with her and demonstrate your unmatched perspicacity, coupled with your sheer indefatigability. In order to crush her flawed logic, and put her in place.

 

[Bigpapa]

Took this Latina out for a date in my car. Eberyrhing going fine until she said what I thought about Andrew tate. I said he was a great guy and I liked him and is what young men needed as a role model. She obviously hated him like most women do. The rest of the night went smoothly and I went in for a kiss which she happily reciprocated and fingered her and sucked her tirs right there. I said let’s get a hotel she said she’s going to work so she can’t. We proceeded to make our more and I made her so horny she said she wanted to go to the hotel. I got the hotel which cost 400 dollars then after I got the room I proceed to eat hee out and then finally stick my **** in hee mouth. She then leaves and says I felt like I was forcing myself onto her but I know that was just an excuse for her to go. Wtf

you lacked proper logistics

You do not escalate if she is not isolated at your place

for sure you do not say let”s go to a hotel , like you do with h00kers

plus this also puts a lot of pressure on her and takes away the mystery

 

[Travel memoir21]

Lol I found this thread funny when I first read it.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

So why correlate your political beliefs, etc with a ‘strong frame’. You think you’re going to turn a Vegan to a Venison connoisseur?

No but I want to make it clear off the bat I'm not going to just agree with whatever they say.

 

[Bigpapa]

No but I want to make it clear off the bat I'm not going to just agree with whatever they say.

by having discussions about topics like this you only shoot yourself in the foot

 

[espanish]

LA raider is correct my friend. You are also correct but there are very few women with free thought. I bet you can't name 3 women who were pioneers in going against the grain. Being socially rejected is akin to death for a woman.

It is men that start fringe counterculture movements like Flat Earth ( I am not saying it is correct), Libertarian groups, Conspiracy Theory or RedPill etc. It is NEVER women.

Generally speaking, women are herd creatures. They don't deviate much from what the mainstream tells them. This is one of the reasons why the "elites" wanted to give women voting rights. They are easy to manipulate via peer pressure.

I am not saying that she should start a revolution, but she should be smart enough to see through propaganda. don't believe everything the news tells her. yes I know women like that are rare and that's why I don't like most women. don't respect them as human beings.

 

[espanish]

Don't say that you agree with Andrew Tate on a general basis. Explain what you agree with him about (If the topic arises). This shows that you can think critically. If she disagrees, you explain your logic behind why you agree with what he said. If that logic makes more sense than her arguments (or lack of). It portrays you as more logical and dominant than her. If she is petty and childish and get's insulted because it conflicts with her flawed worldview, she's not the one.

This assumes that you have thought through what you agree with him on, and that it makes sense. Which is something you should've done before you ever brought the topic up. If she brought it up, just say you haven't made an opinion yet, or you can discuss with her and demonstrate your unmatched perspicacity, coupled with your sheer indefatigability. In order to crush her flawed logic, and put her in place.

jesus man you are using words I have never heard of. these dont even appear in sat

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

by having discussions about topics like this you only shoot yourself in the foot

Note that I never said I reveal my beliefs, I only ask them about their own. Though I do sometimes test them to see if they have SJW/leftists beliefs like fat positivity.