Planning an overseas ascension junket

[20Humble5050]

I am a 22-year-old kissless dateless virgin college student living in the USA and have just about reached the end of my rope with the total lack of success I have had. Because of this, I have decided that if I am still a virgin by summer break next year, I am going to take a week's holiday to anywhere else in the world with the goal of blowing off steam and ideally having a one-night-stand, or at least a makeout, with a local girl or fellow tourist, and an emphasis on nightgame. I don't consider myself attractive, but I think I am decent looking enough to have potential virtually everywhere in the world apart from the "Incel Hell regions" (which is to say Scandinavia, the USA, Australia, Canada and Japan), especially if I meet my weight loss goal, and because I prefer white girls I would like to go somewhere in Europe rather than the lower-hanging fruit of Southeast Asia if that is doable, but I am not averse to the latter. Also, this trip would only be for the purpose of running game in an easier environment rather than paid sex tourism - I have promised myself that I will not visit an escort until I have approached 1,000 girls without any success or the year is 2030, whichever comes first. With this in mind, what places best fit the bill in terms of nightlife, low cost, good potential for general tourist activities and reasonable female standards?

 

[Bokanovsky]

What makes you think that you will be more attractive to girls in Europe compared to local women? The issues that are holding you back are not going to magically disappear when you cross the border. If anything, cultural and language differences will make it even harder to get laid. Sex tourism only works if you’re a natural or you pay hookers. You’d be better off going to some party destination in the USA (or Cancun).

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Mexico, OP

 

[20Humble5050]

What makes you think that you will be more attractive to girls in Europe compared to local women? The issues that are holding you back are not going to magically disappear when you cross the border. If anything, cultural and language differences will make it even harder to get laid. Sex tourism only works if you’re a natural or you pay hookers. You’d be better off going to some party destination in the USA (or Cancun).

As I’ve said in the OP, I plan to improve my game and gymmaxx for a whole year beforehand, so if I still haven’t ascended after that it will be a clearer sign that my looks are what is holding me back. So far I have only done 38 out of 1,000 planned approaches. I am maybe not as much of a truecel as you might be imagining based on my description, because I have struggled with Internet addiction for a long time, had virtually no sex drive until I turned 19, and even then didn’t start approaching in earnest until very recently - between now and the end of this year I don’t think it is unrealistic to run three times as much game as I have in my whole life so far now that this is a crusade, and that wouldn’t even be much of an effort considering how little I’ve done previously.

I’ve heard several anecdotes that suggest Europe outside of Scandinavia is easier for average men, such as one guy who reported getting no Tinder matches over here but several hot ones who actually seemed interested in Europe. Also, I did visit Europe on a study-abroad trip when I was 17 and the girls were eager to talk to me and some of them teased me playfully. I know that isn’t an IOI but that’s already a better sign than American girls’ attitudes where I often have to work hard just to be treated like a normal human being.

There would be no logistics particular to “sex tourism” - people in Europe go to holiday destinations and end up hooking up with each other after a night out in the club and I’d just be joining in that scene hoping to get a piece for myself. Cancun is a sausagefest from what I’ve heard and partying in the USA (what destinations in particular were you thinking of?) seems to be Chad-only, not to mention expensive; if I was hot I would have no trouble getting sex in my hometown.

 

[20Humble5050]

Mexico, OP

What parts of Mexico? Keep in mind that I am not (yet) traveling to visit legal sex workers, but only to seek out legitimate ascension with a girl who genuinely wants to **** me just because she’s attracted - “betabuxxing”, such as promising a single mother a stipend to support her unplanned child in the hopes that she’ll fulfill her end of the covert contract with some starfish sex down the line, doesn’t count.

 

[2Rocky]

OP First, Lower your standards....and look close by. You are in the highest density of single women you will ever be in unless you are at an all mens school.

I'm guessing if you made it to 22 without being kissed it is your social skills holding you back. Get some professional help recognizing other's social cues, and learn to be outgoing and warm. This will give you more progress in the department of losing that Vcard if you can recognize interest in females. https://www.ashrae.org/professional...training/soft-skills-essentials-for-engineers

You can hit the Gym and take a 1 credit Weightlifting and a 1 credit Cardio class as electives. It will create the habit of working out.
Join the Societies and Clubs in your course of study. I'm betting it's engineering...
Create a study group and include females in it. Women ,especially in STEM find intelligence sexy. Use that to your advantage.

Remember an average man is average wherever he goes...Same is true for Above and Below.....

 

[20Humble5050]

I'm guessing if you made it to 22 without being kissed it is your social skills holding you back. Get some professional help recognizing other's social cues, and learn to be outgoing and warm.

Like I said above, I haven't been properly committed to the journey towards ascension until very recently, but having said that, even with my current, improved knowledge of female cues, I can't identify any times a girl was unambiguously hitting on me... until it FINALLY happened very recently. The first girl that hit on me left me in disbelief but I happened to meet her again a few days later and asked her out on a date. She flaked, and turned out to have a sugar daddy down in Florida. The second girl came up to me at a party and started rubbing my arms, but as soon as I put her on the couch and called her cute, her friends hauled her away. With the third girl, also at a party, she literally grabbed my arm and pulled me away from my male friend at one point yet I failed to take that as a good enough reason to escalate. The fourth girl, whom I met in a nightclub, I just let her hug me when I should have tried to grind-dance with her or gone in for a kiss. With the fifth girl, at a house party again, I finally wisened up and was about to move her into a different room with a couch, seat her on my lap and go for the kiss, but her friends hauled her off to a different party at that moment and her idea of a lunch date didn't pan out. My biggest mistake was thinking that going in for a kiss, or grind-dancing, with any of these girls would be treated just as badly as walking up to a complete stranger and kissing her if she turned out not to be interested, and that I needed to wait for some even more blatant cue to get more physical, but I now know that if a girl expresses this sort of interest in me, she respects me enough that a kiss will almost certainly, at the worst, be awkwardly rebuffed as a misunderstanding, rather than leading me to get banned from venues, wrecking my social reputation and/or reported for sexual assault. To be fair my whole life is a bit of a mess right now and I think that maybe my limited opportunities to meet girls in the first place at the moment are preventing me from "losing letters" moreso than lack of looks and height and inability to learn game as I go.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Your issues are mental, doesn't matter if you went to Mars, nothing will change until your poisonous mental attitude and your lack of self love changes

 

[20Humble5050]

Your issues are mental, doesn't matter if you went to Mars, nothing will change until your poisonous mental attitude and your lack of self love changes

What in particular did I say that indicates a poisonous mental attitude and lack of self-love? Also, even if I do ascend I might still go on holiday to a typical party destination just to experience it once when I’m still young.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

What in particular did I say that indicates a poisonous mental attitude and lack of self-love? Also, even if I do ascend I might still go on holiday to a typical party destination just to experience it once when I’m still young.

What have you done to change your situation?
My guess is not much.

 

[20Humble5050]

What have you done to change your situation?
My guess is not much.

Of course I haven’t done much within the last day that this thread has been up - I am just getting started coming out of my current rut and intend to self-improve for a year before this hypothetical trip. Also, it would be helpful in that regard if you could identify what is so toxic about what I wrote above.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Of course I haven’t done much within the last day that this thread has been up - I am just getting started coming out of my current rut and intend to self-improve for a year before this hypothetical trip. Also, it would be helpful in that regard if you could identify what is so toxic about what I wrote above.

Because anyone who thinks of themselves in the way you described already considers themselves and incel.

Even if I was in your position in terms of things I had done with the opposite sex I would have never described myself in that way...it's self-loathing.

You can claim it isn't, but it is.

 

[20Humble5050]

Because anyone who thinks of themselves in the way you described already considers themselves and incel.

Even if I was in your position in terms of things I had done with the opposite sex I would have never described myself in that way...it's self-loathing.

You can claim it isn't, but it is.

I suppose I consider myself an Incel and have problems with self-hate, but my life really isn’t in order and I do meet the technical criteria for an Incel - I don’t ENJOY wallowing in my own sorrow like some Incels do and have every intention of eliminating both the reasons why I dislike myself and the lack of sexual experience that makes me technically an Incel.

 

[corrector]

Yeah, go abroad and have a blast! Take plenty of selfies. Going to Amsterdam or some place like that? Its famous for their bike trails. People tend to bike there rather than use the car.

 

[SW15]

I don't like this travel idea at all. I like the idea of lifting weights, getting big muscles, and working on the personality and outlook in life.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

No need for Europe. Stay in youth hostels in the U.S. where European tourists would visit.

They'll be on vacation mode which means they'll bang anything.

 

[20Humble5050]

I don't like this travel idea at all. I like the idea of lifting weights, getting big muscles, and working on the personality and outlook in life.

This trip would be a year from now. I didn’t say I wouldn’t be attempting all of that in the meantime.

 

[20Humble5050]

No need for Europe. Stay in youth hostels in the U.S. where European tourists would visit.

They'll be on vacation mode which means they'll bang anything.

Do you have any resources on running game in hostels, and what American party destinations were you thinking of? I would think that they would be just as “Chad-only” as any other venue frequented by young people, since if hostel guests will “bang anything” why don’t we hear of more sexless men making trips to hostels in order to ascend? I’m not trying to talk myself out of going if I am wrong and hostel chicks really are easy, mind you.

Edit: Sorry for that drivel; self-hate is a hard habit to break. The lack of GAME possessed by currently sexless men is probably the biggest reason they don’t think they can do well in hostels. I need to remember that I’ve left the Blackpilled Discords behind and must stop chalking everything up to “looks, looks and more looks”, because if I’ve been unambiguously hit on by a Certified Brunette Cutie™ with big boobies before I have no right to continue thinking like an Incel - the blame should be laid on my lack of game.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Do you have any resources on running game in hostels,

Just travel cheaply, meet people and have fun. Forget about game. it's a useless diversion.

American party destinations were you thinking of

Anyplace that attracts tourists on a budget.

I’m not trying to talk myself out of going if I am wrong and hostel chicks really are easy, mind you.

Yes, you are.

You sound a dude that is terrified to leave his house unless he has a foolproof, step by step guaranteed plan that is backed by tons of field reports online.

There is no "hostel" game.

There are no "easy" hostel chicks.

There are just people having fun in a relaxed environment, meeting other people and hooking up.

Stayin in U.S. hostel is cheaper and higher probability that going to Europe. That is all.

Go without a plan and have fun. That is all.

 

[20Humble5050]

Go without a plan and have fun. That is all.

I appreciate your mentality, but I’m really starting from square one here. Are there no texts you read that helped you out in your journey to become better at seducing girls? And why would you call “game” a useless diversion? When I was talking about “game” I was referring to any interaction with a girl with the intent of sleeping with her, not specifically the canned pickup routines.