Why do simps even exist?

[Zimbabwe]

really; how could someone waste so much time and resources towards this worshiping behaviour towards a woman, knowing that they will receive nothing in return? Not even respect, love, or gratitude

Did simps always exist in such numbers? If not, what changed? Do men these days just not know how shīt works? Is it some time of mental disorder?

 

[SW15]

Oversupply of men

 

[BackInTheGame78]

really; how could someone waste so much time and resources towards this worshiping behaviour towards a woman, knowing that they will receive nothing in return? Not even respect, love, or gratitude

Did simps always exist in such numbers? If not, what changed? Do men these days just not know how shīt works? Is it some time of mental disorder?

They don't know that. They think being nice will result in the woman wanting to return the niceness with sex.

It's a form of manipulation and is extremely weak. They do things and do whatever the woman wants in hopes it will earn them "brownie points" they can cash in for sex at a later date.

They don't respect the woman and they don't respect themselves.

 

[StacksHitEmUp]

What frustrates me the most is they get burned everytime yet keep making the same mistakes time and time again. I know a few simps and whenever I tell them what they should and shouldn’t do, either they protest or they say yeah bro then just go back to doing their pathetic **** that never works. It’s disgusting behaviour and I’ve stopped trying to help now I just laugh at them in their face and don’t bother giving advice anymore. Pussies. I get annoyed just thinking about them because they have ruined women aswell with their weak ass behaviour.

 

[Mike32ct]

They’re lonely and want attention from women.

This whole “Men want sex, and women want attention” is a gross oversimplification.

Guys want attention and sex, but some will settle for the former if the latter seems near impossible to get.

Simping is just going to extreme lengths (eg paying) to get female attention (and maybe a very slim chance of sex).

In their minds, there are two options:

1. Simp and get some limited attention (and a 0.001% chance of sex).

2. Ignore women and get absolutely nothing.

 

[IKO69]

Honestly if guys want to be ***** beggars and grovellers, to each their own. My only real dislike of simps is because these idiots will not support men in matters that involve women. Especially women's bad behavior, they make apologies for it and take their side. This is the real reason why women are so empowered, a large number of simps supporting them.

 

[Mike32ct]

I’m not necessarily defending simps. I just wanted to explain how they think and why they do what they do.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

It’s natural male nature to simp. I hate to burst your bubble, but “game” and “pua” are simping in a different way. All men are simps, we just choose to do it differently.

 

[tightgrp]

More disgusting than a fugly ain't s**t b**ch is the symp. We've all been one. Though, it does seem current society, its conventions and technology have encouraged an abundance of this behavior. Be thankful, if the scales have fallen from your eyes.

 

[corrector]

Honestly if guys want to be ***** beggars and grovellers, to each their own. My only real dislike of simps is because these idiots will not support men in matters that involve women. Especially women's bad behavior, they make apologies for it and take their side. This is the real reason why women are so empowered, a large number of simps supporting them.

Seeing the definition on here for simps is so broad, including people who subscribe to OF, why would you come to conclusion that they do not support men's rights, make apologies or take their side? I think it's the chads that are ruining everything by going for easy lays for women way under their league so that average guys can't get their looksmatch and are creating simps because there is a vacuum. That is projection of blame.

 

[IKO69]

Seeing the definition on here for simps is so broad, including people who subscribe to OF, why would you come to conclusion that they do not support men's rights, make apologies or take their side? I think it's the chads that are ruining everything by going for easy lays for women way under their league so that average guys can't get their looksmatch and are creating simps because there is a vacuum. That is projection of blame.

It's quite simple really. It makes no sense to blame the chads. I really don't understand how and why the "chad" is viewed as a big, bad boggeyman around these parts. My idea of a chad, which I think the majority of men share, is some really handsome guy, usually above average in height and great physique. Famous examples would be a Henry Cavill, Shemar Moore, Chris Hemsworth, guys like this. I can understand why women would like these guys...do you know what percentage of men look like this across the globe? Probably less than 5%. The great majority of men you will encounter in your life will NOT fit this mold, even men of above average appearance. We are talking about a VERY SMALL number of select men, non factors basically, so it is silly & foolish to worry about the threat of chads snatching all the women. Women will encounter them once every blue moon and when they do, probably won't even register on the chads radar. Likely the chad is already dating his equivalent that he met on a modeling photoshoot or something.

The majority of men are simps. Talk to your friends - you might get sympathy on some points but most won't be for anything related to men's rights. They'll be vehemently against it more often than not and will say something to the effect of "that's something only losers would subscribe too". No surprise these guys would often take the woman's side, apologize for them and **** on the men. They also encourage and support their terrible behavior too (not just words and gestures, but $$$).

Whenever I have brought up it up I received far more pushback than sympathy or understanding. I have in almost 40 years only met a handful of people who you would call "MGTOW" - this is offline of course. Online, go to a neutral place (that means a forum or subreddit unlike this one) and see what people say on the topic of relationships. Any man who points out women's bad behavior gets shamed, by women sure, but right behind in them in almost equal numbers will be stupid men. These guys are the real problem, the overwhelming problem, and are the reason why women behave as they do. Women are smart and support each other; it's sad as a man to know you can't have the same solidarity and will likely be sold out by your fellow man.

 

[corrector]

It's quite simple really. It makes no sense to blame the chads. I really don't understand how and why the "chad" is viewed as a big, bad boggeyman around these parts. My idea of a chad, which I think the majority of men share, is some really handsome guy, usually above average in height and great physique. Famous examples would be a Henry Cavill, Shemar Moore, Chris Hemsworth, guys like this. I can understand why women would like these guys...do you know what percentage of men look like this across the globe? Probably less than 5%. The great majority of men you will encounter in your life will NOT fit this mold, even men of above average appearance. We are talking about a VERY SMALL number of select men, non factors basically, so it is silly & foolish to worry about the threat of chads snatching all the women. Women will encounter them once every blue moon and when they do, probably won't even register on the chads radar. Likely the chad is already dating his equivalent that he met on a modeling photoshoot or something.

The majority of men are simps. Talk to your friends - you might get sympathy on some points but most won't be for anything related to men's rights. They'll be vehemently against it more often than not and will say something to the effect of "that's something only losers would subscribe too". No surprise these guys would often take the woman's side, apologize for them and **** on the men.

Whenever I have brought up it up I received far more pushback than sympathy or understanding. I have in almost 40 years only met a handful of people who you would call "MGTOW" - this is offline of course. Online, go to a neutral place (that means a forum or subreddit unlike this one) and see what people say on the topic of relationships. Any man who points out women's bad behavior gets shamed, by women sure, but right behind in them in almost equal numbers will be stupid men. These guys are the real problem, the overwhelming problem, and are the reason why women behave as they do. Women are smart and support each other; it's sad as a man to know you can't have the same solidarity and will likely be sold out by your fellow man.

Guys online will say anything in order to get brownie points from the women with the hopes that a woman will direct message them and they might meet someone.

 

[thelambofdeth]

First-world feminism and the over-abundance of validation/attention/options women receive from OLD and SM. It's no coincidence all this has occurred at the same time. Women receive too much free validation and ego-boots and it has bolstered their standards and expectations to an astronomical degree, simultaneously fostering unlimited options from OLD that allows and encourages them to be as particular as possible. Couple this with all the mainstream man-hating and masculinity demonizing, you have tons of passive, diminutive men afraid to be men vs women who are more entitled, haughty, and shallow than they've ever been. A perfect storm for mass simpitry.

 

[Mike32ct]

Why do some simps side with feminists?

Probably just virtue signaling and trying to gain brownie points. I don’t agree with this, but they do.

Why do some simps not side with Men’s Rights groups?

A ‘cel guy doesn’t care about divorce, child support, alimony, etc. Bad analogy: Homeless people don’t worry about property tax rates on mansions.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I see them irl. It's the easy way out.

 

[corrector]

Why do some simps side with feminists?

Probably just virtue signaling and trying to gain brownie points. I don’t agree with this, but they do.

Why do some simps not side with Men’s Rights groups?

A ‘cel guy doesn’t care about divorce, child support, alimony, etc. Bad analogy: Homeless people don’t worry about property tax rates on mansions.

Just because you don't care about something doesn't mean you are taking a side, or the opposite site. 'cel guys also get married or divorced (ie if you are going by 'cel, then it would include incels with dead bedroom marriages, or nearcels who may get a bone tossed at them now and then which could end up in marriage and all those issues you've mentioned. Only a "trucel" may not care but not necessarily take the opposite side. Even I got married and divorced with an ex-wife where a child could have been born (if I kept it inside and intended to get her pregnant - which I have mixed feelings towards now being at 46 y/o if I lost my only chance to have children, etc...)

 

[Kotaix]

Why do some simps side with feminists?

Probably just virtue signaling and trying to gain brownie points. I don’t agree with this, but they do.

Why do some simps not side with Men’s Rights groups?

A ‘cel guy doesn’t care about divorce, child support, alimony, etc. Bad analogy: Homeless people don’t worry about property tax rates on mansions.

Men who side with feminists are weasels. They want sex, except that their "mating strategy" is suck up to feminists in the hope of getting some instead of being direct and open about their intentions.

Simps don't receive nothing in return. All streamers across all platforms are effectively forced to acknowledge when people send them money if they know what's good for them. Those who don't just are going to lose engagement because they're technically ripping off their audience at that point.

This behavior even exists within the redpill community. There are people who will consistently superchat aaron clarey or rich cooper.

In the end, Simping is almost always a way to get ego validation, which in itself is a mental illness.

 

[HaleyBaron]

In the end, Simping is almost always a way to get ego validation, which in itself is a mental illness.

I look at it as gambling for rep. "if I give more money, this person will acknowledge me more." You can do that with men cause we are more honorable. Not so much with women.

 

[Kotaix]

I look at it as gambling for rep. "if I give more money, this person will acknowledge me more." You can do that with men cause we are more honorable. Not so much with women.

I don't see a real difference. At the end of the day these guys aren't likely to care about you when you stop paying them.

 

[Young OG]

really; how could someone waste so much time and resources towards this worshiping behaviour towards a woman, knowing that they will receive nothing in return? Not even respect, love, or gratitude

Did simps always exist in such numbers? If not, what changed? Do men these days just not know how shīt works? Is it some time of mental disorder?

Why do you care?

Another stupid thread from Zimbabwe...