Why Men should create social groups to meet Women

[2Rocky]

The whole "mentors" thing is BS. Seriously, older guys who became successful were living in a different time than you were and under different circumstances. You do have a mentor easily available to everyone, it's called the internet. Be proactive, research your profession, connect with people on LinkedIn around it, and take control of your own destiny. It is what I did.

You don't mimic the Mentor...but he provides access to that circle that matters, and is YOUR Social proof. you still gotta do your own work. And you are right . There is no Easy button, and you gotta fail a few times.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I was in a college fraternity and tbh, it didn't do that much for me. Most guys go on to work your typical accounting job or some consultant/analyst job at an EY or PWC. At the end of the day, if you know what you are talking about, research your field and the place you want to work at, and offer unique value then they will take y

yeah same here and these guys got the tools handed to them and they just didn’t fvck it up lol.

I didn’t have a mentor for women(I’m a black guy raised in the suburbs so my dating perspectives were screwed from that), and both of my parents were your typical high degree government job people(no advice from them lol). It took me some blood, sweat, and tears but I was able to crack 100k salary before 30.

The biggest advice I can give is don’t make crucial mistakes that will follow you in life. I couldn’t imagine switching careers while trying to raise a kid or with a felony on my name. You can learn and recover from maxing out a credit card/picking a bad degree but an unplanned kid stays with you. You can permanently break something or lose your life trying to do dare devil shvt to impress people or appear alpha. This is why im so harsh towards the Ray Rays and pump and dump game crew because they advocate men to get exposed to these crucial mistakes.

 

[kavi]

I cant be asked to go into it to detail now.

I am looking to 'marry' 3 women. These are from my own ethnic group, 2 of them know each other and the third I have to introduce to the others. They're ages are 37, 33, and 24. They are all attractive.

I also have these other 2 girls who will likely wanna live with me and do something similar. This is from a social group I am part of. These two are white ages 23 and 24. These two girls are part of a social group that also has other guys in it. Those other guys mostly take the position of orbiters, but there a few guys there who have that good energy that the girls like. So this group is more interesting to me than the first cos it is where I want things to go. A nucleas of high-value guy(s) and a few girls, other girls on the outside and then more guys who are orbiters or normal guys. The group dyanics here are interesting. The girls are important because the group needs them to survive otherwise it is just beta guys. But the girls primarily want me as the guy for romantic interest and I am doing like 30% of work to keep them there. There are other girls in the group who know the score but I dont need to be with them so they can be with anyone including one of the other guys. This group I would like to grow into some kind of community, more girls, more guys and it is primarily about the women bonding which is facilitated by me.

From the first group above, one of the girls (24 yr old) I met online on a chat/gaming app. That was also social circle stuff as having lots of activity and other people and a community is what allowed us to meet and kept things interesting and moving. I was gaming loads of girls here when I met her and there are others who may want to move in with me too.

For me, if I can get close to women in social circle I can really make myself that guy that they wanna be with then I take the step of putting the girls together with others, telling them to get along with other girls etc.

I am looking to move in with the first set of girls and then second set as they are younger I am not sure where thats gonna go but all this has been going on for 2.5 years (both groups) and now both groups are more confident they wanna make this a reality so I am confident I can do this with others and other men can do it too.

The point is the social group is all about women bonding and making friends with each other and the guy(s) with high-value have to be the glue to keeps it all together. Beta orbiters and PUA types and whatnot is easy to deal with if you are that guy that all the girls like, cos girls know how to deal with those guys and so do you.

In these groups women have a lot of power cos obviously most guys are really thirsty and the women can simply game every other type of guy other than the ones at the top.

 

[Epicwinguy]

All the guys in this thread and especially the ones saying cold approach is the best method are the exact reason I would recommend any guy who struggles with women to take anything he reads in the manosphere with a grain of salt. I get all my lays through my social circle. Running around like some RSDNation lunatic will get you arrested sooner or later.

 

[Steno]

Work and school = social circle.

It has to be a natural way of seeing people frequently. Generally speaking hobbies don't work because men have very different hobbies than women and if you try to take on hobbies that aren't interesting to you then you will give up after a few days. If you want a social circle just find a part time job that has a 50/50 ratio like working at a target store or something.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

All the guys in this thread and especially the ones saying cold approach is the best method are the exact reason I would recommend any guy who struggles with women to take anything he reads in the manosphere with a grain of salt. I get all my lays through my social circle. Running around like some RSDNation lunatic will get you arrested sooner or later.

Will you get into trouble and arrested if you go around like some spam approacher that harasses women, especially like that idiot Sasha or the Toronto mall PUAs? Yes.

However, as someone who has met women through cold approach, social circle, night-game, online game, and through his hobbies, what is 10 times more likely is this. You somehow luck into a social circle only to find that the hottest girls are either taken or that you are constantly fighting other guys in the social circle with a chance for the hottest girl. Not long after, you settle into a relationship with a 5 or 6 in that circle because you crave the companionship and the community. Soon after, that relationship turns into a marriage since everyone around you is doing it and you do not want to be the odd one out.

If anyone tells me that they get all of their lays through social circle, my immediate assumption is that they do not get laid that frequently. If they are getting laid a lot through social circle with respectably good looking women, then chances are that they work in a profession like nightlife that makes it possible, a job that most of us would not be able to do or makes no sense to do when you are an adult.

Cold approach is by far the best way to meet women and it is not even debatable. Social circle is the least practical way.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

All the guys in this thread and especially the ones saying cold approach is the best method are the exact reason I would recommend any guy who struggles with women to take anything he reads in the manosphere with a grain of salt. I get all my lays through my social circle. Running around like some RSDNation lunatic will get you arrested sooner or later.

No offense man, but I'm quite aware of how the social circle game works because my friends solely rely on it and I must question why are you even on this site in the first place. My friends don't even know what the frick blue pill, red pill, manosphere, etc is lol.

 

[SW15]

My friends don't even know what the frick blue pill, red pill, manosphere, etc is lol.

Neither do mine for the most part. One of my friends read Roosh V's "Bang" and "Mystery Method". He ended up getting into a LTR via social circle. Besides reading "Bang" and "Mystery Method", I doubt he went very deep into the online content that was out there. He wanted to get his dicck wet. Now he's settled into a mediocre at best LTR using none of the tactics of "Bang" and "Mystery Method". That is one of my most game aware friends. I've mentioned a 6'4" White male friend before with a triple digit notch count. He never read any Manosphere stuff. He was closer to a natural. All he did was spam approach at bars with a weak opener. That's not the best game. I've said game is a combination of looks, money, status, and persona. He had a look that yuppie, cookie cutter White women considered dreamy. That's all he really had going for him. He even got married and looks like a total beta male now. He was likely always a beta but he was able to disguise it better when he was picking up women spam approaching.

 

[Epicwinguy]

No offense man, but I'm quite aware of how the social circle game works because my friends solely rely on it and I must question why are you even on this site in the first place. My friends don't even know what the frick blue pill, red pill, manosphere, etc is lol.

I came here years ago as a late in life virgin. My social life improved drastically and now I am getting laid. Now I have come back to debunk some ****, maybe help someone who comes on here who is in a position I was in, and lastly to maybe come to understand the mindset behind spreading all the bull**** you guys spread.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I came here years ago as a late in life virgin. My social life improved drastically and now I am getting laid. Now I have come back to debunk some ****, maybe help someone who comes on here who is in a position I was in, and lastly to maybe come to understand the mindset behind spreading all the bull**** you guys spread.

Because it isn't BS. You had the experience you had and maybe you are just not cut out for cold approach, fine, whatever. Social circles in most cases, barring some luck (your situation), are an awful way to get laid with a lot of different women. Both me and @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 have experienced both sides of the coin so we can speak on both sides.

Not sure where you pulled the whole getting arrested for cold approaching nonsense. If you do it with some social intelligence, you should be good to go. Just because you lack the social calibration, guts, grit, and boldness to do cold approach doesn't mean it is not for everyone. You just lucked out with a social circle, it's not a repeatable process that most guys can follow, it is solely based on pure luck and falling into the right circumstance at the right time.

 

[Epicwinguy]

Because it isn't BS. You had the experience you had and maybe you are just not cut out for cold approach, fine, whatever. Social circles in most cases, barring some luck (your situation), are an awful way to get laid with a lot of different women. Both me and @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 have experienced both sides of the coin so we can speak on both sides.

Not sure where you pulled the whole getting arrested for cold approaching nonsense. If you do it with some social intelligence, you should be good to go. Just because you lack the social calibration, guts, grit, and boldness to do cold approach doesn't mean it is not for everyone. You just lucked out with a social circle, it's not a repeatable process that most guys can follow, it is solely based on pure luck and falling into the right circumstance at the right time.

Running after women on the sidewalk, Running around to women and stopping them and putting your hand out to stop them, and going up to a table a bunch of women are sat at and screaming "WHATS UP ****S!" are not displays of good social skills. All three of these things are suggested by RSDNation which is basically all about cold approach daygame. The girls I hook up with aren't in my social circle, I approach them at bars and alcoholic venues while out with my friends. People always say the best way to get chicks is to be out without the intention of picking up chicks, going out just to chill with friends is very helpful with this.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Running after women on the sidewalk, Running around to women and stopping them and putting your hand out to stop them, and going up to a table a bunch of women are sat at and screaming "WHATS UP ****S!" are not displays of good social skills. All three of these things are suggested by RSDNation which is basically all about cold approach daygame. The girls I hook up with aren't in my social circle, I approach them at bars and alcoholic venues while out with my friends. People always say the best way to get chicks is to be out without the intention of picking up chicks, going out just to chill with friends is very helpful with this.

Wait but you just said most of your lays are from social circle, I am confused here.

As for your note about daygame, yes the old school guys like RSD and Sasha were idiots. Thankfully, they have all left the game and have faded away. Unfortunately, they have taught a lot of young men the wrong way to do game. As for "good social skills", I'll give you that. Pickup, even at its finest, asks you to be a bit more out of the box. FFS, you are going out to hit on women, that is very out of the box and not something a normal guy would do.

However, there is nothing wrong with being different as long as you are acting with class, giving her space, and not harassing her. Plenty of guys who are normal guys with some boldness to them approach women at the beach.

What you are doing at bars, to a lot of normies, would be considered weird. I have been in "social circles" before and a lot will frown at you randomly hitting on girls. So there is a range to this all. I think what you are doing is fine and normal but anyone who gets too deep into social circles will realize that when you are out with them, hitting on randoms is very frowned upon.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Wait but you just said most of your lays are from social circle, I am confused here.

As for your note about daygame, yes the old school guys like RSD and Sasha were idiots. Thankfully, they have all left the game and have faded away. Unfortunately, they have taught a lot of young men the wrong way to do game. As for "good social skills", I'll give you that. Pickup, even at its finest, asks you to be a bit more out of the box. FFS, you are going out to hit on women, that is very out of the box and not something a normal guy would do.

However, there is nothing wrong with being different as long as you are acting with class, giving her space, and not harassing her. Plenty of guys who are normal guys with some boldness to them approach women at the beach.

What you are doing at bars, to a lot of normies, would be considered weird. I have been in "social circles" before and a lot will frown at you randomly hitting on girls. So there is a range to this all. I think what you are doing is fine and normal but anyone who gets too deep into social circles will realize that when you are out with them, hitting on randoms is very frowned upon.

Which is why trying to do game when out with your “normie friends” is a big mistake imo

 

[Slowhandluke]

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[Epicwinguy]

Wait but you just said most of your lays are from social circle, I am confused here.

As for your note about daygame, yes the old school guys like RSD and Sasha were idiots. Thankfully, they have all left the game and have faded away. Unfortunately, they have taught a lot of young men the wrong way to do game. As for "good social skills", I'll give you that. Pickup, even at its finest, asks you to be a bit more out of the box. FFS, you are going out to hit on women, that is very out of the box and not something a normal guy would do.

However, there is nothing wrong with being different as long as you are acting with class, giving her space, and not harassing her. Plenty of guys who are normal guys with some boldness to them approach women at the beach.

What you are doing at bars, to a lot of normies, would be considered weird. I have been in "social circles" before and a lot will frown at you randomly hitting on girls. So there is a range to this all. I think what you are doing is fine and normal but anyone who gets too deep into social circles will realize that when you are out with them, hitting on randoms is very frowned upon.

When you are out with friends you are more likely to meet new people. Some are women of course. Yeah if you go up to a table of women and scream “WHATS UP ****S!” your friends will think wtf is wrong with him? But just chatting you can tell who the dtf girls are. I did have one woman in my group tell me I was being creepy talking to girls at the bar we frequent, but you can’t please everyone and she hasn’t brought it up since that one time.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I did have one woman in my group tell me I was being creepy talking to girls at the bar we frequent

Of course you were creepy. She doesn't see you as a romantic interest so it's creepy that you are doing it. If it was a guy she could see herself fvcking, then it's just him being sociable.