Do you think that without GeoMaxxing, would this guy have any shot whatsoever at macking?

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that guy is/will be in trouble. he still needs to be smart. geomaxx or whatever you call it will increase his SMV, not his IQ or EQ.
 

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1. The guy is a dweeb. He has very little chance of making a meaningful impact in the mating environment in the United States. In the United States, his ceiling is likely a below average looking woman.

2. The guy is a cuck. Ximena is a single mom from some Latin America country. He's raising her children from another man. That is beta/cuck behavior. Also, her sleeve tattoo shows she's not a TradWife. This guy could have gotten a native US woman with a sleeve tattoo who was a single mom. That defeats the purpose of going to a non-Western area to date.

3. Selecting a woman from Latin America (or Asia/Eastern Europe) and then bringing her back to the United States is usually not a good idea. When foreign women from more traditional cultures get exposed to toxic Western culture, they become more toxic. In many cases, they are still a little bit better than native born women but it's not ideal.

4. I perceive that too many Western men now have been trying to date women in Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. I don't think that effort is as effective as it once was. When Roosh was in Poland/Eastern Europe in the 2010s, he noticed degeneracy picking up in those more traditional cultures.
 

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1. The guy is a dweeb. He has very little chance of making a meaningful impact in the mating environment in the United States. In the United States, his ceiling is likely a below average looking woman.
His ceiling is probably below the chick from the infamous "pig woman experiment". :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/online-dating-experiment-with-pig-woman.2438447/

2. The guy is a cuck. Ximena is a single mom from some Latin America country. He's raising her children from another man. That is beta/cuck behavior. Also, her sleeve tattoo shows she's not a TradWife. This guy could have gotten a native US woman with a sleeve tattoo who was a single mom. That defeats the purpose of going to a non-Western area to date.
BINGO! That said, even fat & nasty single mommy 'mericans have a certain level of hypergamy.

3. Selecting a woman from Latin America (or Asia/Eastern Europe) and then bringing her back to the United States is usually not a good idea. When foreign women from more traditional cultures get exposed to toxic Western culture, they become more toxic. In many cases, they are still a little bit better than native born women but it's not ideal.
In the ForeignWomanSphere, this is termed the "SMV adjustment" - i.e., a woman who is used to a certain Sexual Market Value in her own country sees the American (or pick your wealthy white country) market, and her inner hamster says that she should upgrade. I think the key to doing this is to make sure she has your child before you move her over; a single mommy will always be at lower SMV to her kids' non-fathers than to their fathers. This is also gives her time to understand that it is in the best interest of her children for the father to be around.

4. I perceive that too many Western men now have been trying to date women in Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. I don't think that effort is as effective as it once was. When Roosh was in Poland/Eastern Europe in the 2010s, he noticed degeneracy picking up in those more traditional cultures.
It's a perception, but the number of Western men is not as big as you think, at least in countries where you have to have a visa; the visa requirement, along with political instability, scares away a lot of men. :cool:

As for Roosh's observation of degeneracy, let's call a spade a spade: Roosh was a degenerate himself. :rolleyes:
 

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The only way to fix that guy is having him kidnapped from the aliens and biologically improved with superior technology that clearly doesnt exists on earth.

Once he gets back on earth he has to attend a mma class with full sparring every other day while forced to go to night clubs at night to sharpen his skills while a mentor leads him step by step.

No other options once your genetics is so bad and society brainwashed you as a nice guy to be a prey.
 

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The only way to fix that guy is having him kidnapped from the aliens and biologically improved with superior technology that clearly doesnt exists on earth.

Once he gets back on earth he has to attend a mma class with full sparring every other day while forced to go to night clubs at night to sharpen his skills while a mentor leads him step by step.

No other options once your genetics is so bad and society brainwashed you as a nice guy to be a prey.
The girl isn't exactly good looking herself though, she looks like a thai tranny with that man jaw.

The problem is guys like him can't find a girl of equivalent looks because even ugly girls have tons of options these days.

**** shes got a full sleeve and hand tat, thats not a good sign
Apperntly her ex is in prison too lol.

I perceive that too many Western men now have been trying to date women in Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. I don't think that effort is as effective as it once was. When Roosh was in Poland/Eastern Europe in the 2010s, he noticed degeneracy picking up in those more traditional cultures
Well your competitors are simps and Retirees, so it's not exactly all doom and gloom yet for foreign girls. Rooshv was a introverted micro biologist, his reputation also meant he could never find a good woman. I think thats the real reason he gave up and went Monk Mode
 

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Apperntly her ex is in prison too lol.
Alpha fuccks and beta bucks. No wonder that chick might try to talk herself into going from one extreme to another.

4. I perceive that too many Western men now have been trying to date women in Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. I don't think that effort is as effective as it once was. When Roosh was in Poland/Eastern Europe in the 2010s, he noticed degeneracy picking up in those more traditional cultures.
Well your competitors are simps and Retirees, so it's not exactly all doom and gloom yet for foreign girls. Rooshv was a introverted micro biologist, his reputation also meant he could never find a good woman. I think thats the real reason he gave up and went Monk Mode
As for Roosh's observation of degeneracy, let's call a spade a spade: Roosh was a degenerate himself. :rolleyes:
@Zimbabwe is correct that a lot of men who try to leave Western nations to pursue vagina in non-Western areas are beta males who are getting ignored in their home country. A lot of men in the United States/other Western nations are discarded by United States/other Western women. While there are some hopeless males in the discard pile, there are actually some decent males in the pile. Those whose looks/personalities don't stand out. Some classic "nice guys". Some guys who have attributes lacking like no big muscles, mediocre height, etc. Getting sent to the discard pile in the United States/other Western nations doesn't mean a lot now.

Roosh was sent to the discard pile in high school and college. As a STEM guy, he lacked the social skills during those years to give women vaginal tingles. Roosh made it his purpose in life to get vagina after women shut him out during high school & college. For 6 years, he was a full time microbiologist, while studying seduction and then later being a seduction influencer. After "Bang" came out in 2007, he became a full time seduction influencer/PUA. I think @MatureDJ is correct that he was more of a degenerate. However, there are introverts who can be good seducers, so @Zimbabwe calling someone an introvert is meaningless. Sigma males are introverted, lone wolf types.

Roosh did not give up and go Monk Mode. He was beginning to be persecuted for his views on SJWs/feminists etc. Additionally, his younger sister dying of breast cancer in her early 30s affected him deeply. There were many contributing factors to why Roosh changed.
 

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my opinion: I think St. BlackOps2Cel might mog him. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

She is ugly as hell. I don't think even he would need to "geomax" to get that.

If this guy hit the gym hard for 1 to 2 years got a few tatoos in the right places i could see him slaying much better looking women than this anywhere in the world honestly. Women love the bald head look if you are ripped and have a bad boy image to go with it.
 

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She is ugly as hell. I don't think even he would need to "geomax" to get that.
She is a very common woman in the United States. Going to Latin America for that seems like a waste. The only difference I can perceive is that the Latin American is likely slightly nicer. Going to Latin America to get a woman with a full sleeve tattoo and a single mom defeats the purpose of going to Latin America.
 

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She is a very common woman in the United States. Going to Latin America for that seems like a waste. The only difference I can perceive is that the Latin American is likely slightly nicer. Going to Latin America to get a woman with a full sleeve tattoo and a single mom defeats the purpose of going to Latin America.

She looks like an ex prostitute or current free lancer to me. Pure garbage. Especially by latin American standards.
 

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She is a very common woman in the United States. Going to Latin America for that seems like a waste. The only difference I can perceive is that the Latin American is likely slightly nicer. Going to Latin America to get a woman with a full sleeve tattoo and a single mom defeats the purpose of going to Latin America.
for us; yes. for that guy, his SMV is lower so this is the best he can do unless he improves.
 

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The girl isn't exactly good looking herself though, she looks like a thai tranny with that man jaw.

The problem is guys like him can't find a girl of equivalent looks because even ugly girls have tons of options these days.
The girl is ugly as fvck personally I couldnt even get an erection after a full cycle of steroids for her.

Guys like him are beyond salvation unless we find out the sarcophagus from stargate or the serum that created captain america, if that guy tells me that he moved to monk mode I would tell him that he made the right choice.

Geomaxxing is however the best plan for average guys that move to countries where averate women are fine average guys and where the average for women is much higher than the western world (which doesnt come that hard nowadays).
 

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for us; yes. for that guy, his SMV is lower so this is the best he can do unless he improves.

I genuinely do feel sorry for guys like this, but i think he could improve his SMV quite a bit at the same time with a bit of work and patience.
 
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