Real Truths About Dating

[Glassguy]

Having gone from 2 "mini relationships" to spinning a rotation has me thinking about a few things. Hell I didnt even try to build a rotation, it just fell in my lap. One 22 year old, 28 year old, 33 year old and a 36 year old. And I have a date this evening with a 31 year old (I am 44). All very attractive woman. I really didnt do anything to create this current rotation other than respond back to them on fb. Zero effort.

A few things that stand out about the dating scene (and may go against what a lot of others say on here) as I spin this rotation:

1. Dating CAN be expensive. If you are taking women out to dinners, movies, etc, it will get to be a decent expense. Imagine having a 3 chick rotation and taking each woman out once a week for dinner, movies, etc. That can easily be nearly $1000.00 a month. Which is ridiculous and in no way should you be doing that.

You can easily avoid this by:
*Screening HARD- only take women on a "date" if she checks a lot of your boxes, shows very high interest and has the qualities of LTR potential.
*First date is a drink or two. Its a quick meet up to see if the chick is the same in real life as she is over the phone/text. I always have a phone conversation before I go out with a new chick. If she seems boring, non connected to the conversation, etc., I just cancel the date. There is no reason to waste my time and money if a chick doesnt sound fun/interesting/interested. No thanks.
*Only spin chicks that fall into your lap. Put yourself out there on social media, go out for drinks with friends, etc. Add chicks who just happen to fall in your lap and stop putting forth effort into women who dont make it SUPER easy.
*After date 2 or 3, the "dates" where you spend money should be less of an occurrence and you should be coming up with ideas to have her come to your house (Making dinner, drinking some wine, netflix and chill, etc). After date 3 you should also be letting go some of these chicks when you realize that she isnt what you're looking for OR she isnt taking care of your needs.

2. You should have a pecking order in your rotation. Its really simple......if I am actively seeing 4 women, I have one that I am more interested in than the others, yet they should all suit a need of mine.
For example- I have went out with one chick 3 times and no sex. It would have definitely happened but too much alcohol was consumed (yeah yeah I know...poor choice on my part). However, I am getting pvssy from 2 of the 4 and sex will happen at some point today with the 3rd who I have previous banged. So I can afford to lay low with the one that its moving slower with (and I am most interested in) because my other needs are being met with the other chicks. Its ok to slow play it and not seem thirsty (actually separating yourself from the other guys). I am in no way suggesting that you focus on one chick, she strings you along and you get oneitis.
The pecking order can change at any minute. Plates can go to the bench and I will put others into the game. Pull orbiters onto the bench as backups...you see where I am going with this. But you cannot do that without options.
One current plate is as such- I will go fvck her like a wh0re and she will beg me to come do it again, only went out with her on 1 "date".
Another I am past date 3 and we will see what happens. She is at the top of the pecking order right now.
Another is a previous bang that will come over and let me fvck her but she is also someone that I would take out on a cheap date.
The 22 year old will come over to my house after she gets off work one night a week, we fvck and she goes home. She thinks I might date her, but I wont. Just sex.

3. Escalation: Lets be honest about something- not a lot of wholesome, high value women with options are going to fvck you on the first date. Lets be real about something else- nearly every guy she goes out with is going to try to escalate with her on date #1 because they are desperate and see this chick as higher value than they can afford, so they want to close the deal and try to get her hooked.
So here is my take on this: If this is a chick that I am highly interested in and checks a lot of boxes for a potential LTR, I keep that 1st date to a couple of drinks and good conversation. I am not thirsty. I am not desperate. She will see me as such.

Now if she throws that pvssy in my lap, I wont shy away from it either. With a chick that has my interest humming, I normally keep it to kissing at the end of the first date unless I get signals that she wants to take it further. And those signals are easy to recognize.

Dates 2 and 3 should schematically be set up for sex to happen. You should be picking her up for the date, her meeting you at your place for the date or meeting some place close to your place for the date. You shouldnt be meeting a chick that lives 45 minutes to an hour away halfway on dates 2 or 3. Especially date 3.

4. Be realistic. There are some women out there that take a break from dating to just focus on themselves, especially after a LTR ends. You might snag a chick in this situation that is not talking to 5 different dudes and things take off between the 2 of you. This is a needle in a haystack situation and you need to face reality that most women that have value will also have options. I am not talking about a skank who works at McD's and is a 5, overweight and stupid. I am referring to the chicks that I date that are educated, smart, fun and attractive. They will have options. And you need to be the best version of yourself without being needy and insecure in order to separate yourself from those other dudes hitting her up. You also better make her legs tremble when you start fvcking her, which is when the real fun starts and she will beg you to come fvck her on the regular.....without taking her on "dates". Funny how that works isnt it?

Understand that women worth your time have options just like high value men do. And also understand that most of your competition of other men are very clingy, blow her phone up, act insecure and will make it super easy for you to stand out if you just dont act stupid.

 

[Glassguy]

Continued......

5. You are the most important person when it comes to dating women. This might be the hardest thing for most men to understand, but it is probably the one thing that happens when you start having women fall into your lap.
*You must have the utmost respect for YOURSELF. You teach others how you want them to treat you by what you allow. If a woman doesnt respect you things will go nowhere.
*You cannot be afraid to drop a chick when things go sideways, things arent benefiting you, etc. You are dating for the reason to add fun to your life and if a woman cant contribute to that, its time to walk away. This is where having options/true abundance and an abundant mindset make it easy to walk away when you need to do so.

6. Abundance: Having abundance (true abundance) gives you confidence. It gives you swag. It will keep you from over communicating and killing the vibe. It keeps you secure instead of insecure. It truly separates you from most of the competition that you dont know about in the dating world. You have no idea how often I hear this from a woman while she is out with me- "You dont act like the other guys who blow my phone up all day". That in itself gets their hamster spinning and generates attraction.
*You cant have 4 women to spin until you get the first one. Its like dominoes. Knock the first one down and you will see more start to fall. This is why its so important to not only be working on yourself at all times but also getting out and socializing as you never know when more women that you could be interested in will fall into your lap.
*Once I bang a chick and realize she is getting hooked, I stop initiating all communication and only respond back to her reaching out. This is because I want to create some of that good anxiety that I talked about in a recent thread.
*When I chick is chasing you, you cant be chasing her. With abundance you will not chase women. Sure you will make it easy to see her, but you wont chase her.

I share a lot of my stories with @BeExcellent . She has seen many pics of women that I spin as plates, date, etc. Sure I will bang a 7 if she is fun and outgoing. But most women are higher value women and in my area and certainly the top of the food chain in terms of dating prospects.

Quick story- I was dating a Physicians Assistant for almost 2 months. I snagged her before she truly hit the dating market (story for another time). Very attractive woman, mid 30's. She also knew that she was in the top tier of the dating pool around here and I am sure that she has no problems getting attention from men. Matter of fact, most guys would cancel whatever they had going on to go out with her. But I am different and she has quickly realized. I truly do have abundance. Which she quickly realized. So I stopped seeing her a couple of weeks ago and it blew her mind that I could do such a thing since she sees herself as such a catch. At the end of the day she has too much drama in her life that I am unwilling to deal with and along with some other issues concerning her, I knew it was best to drop her and spend that time on other chicks, which I did. So along came the "fvck you" texts from her, then the apologies, etc. She is still texting me trying to decipher where she stands but I am indifferent and dont give her the response. Sorry princess, but I am not like the other guys that pamper you with attention and will put up with your BS just to keep seeing you. Nah, I dont have time for that.

Needless to say she is not very happy with me and that is ok. But she respects me. And she respects that I did what is best for me. That alone will keep this chick hooked far longer than some chick that I only had sex with. She will quickly find out how devouring the dating world is when both her feet hits the ground and she starts putting herself out there and dating other men.

Any woman that I have walked away from that still had the upmost respect for me is still on the hook as long as she is not in a serious relationship. Meaning I could call/text her and she would come over. On the flip side, the few times I lost my cool, acted insecure or did something to lose respect.....well those women are gone.

Think about that.

Happy Hunting

 

[RickTheToad]

Continued......

5. You are the most important person when it comes to dating women. This might be the hardest thing for most men to understand, but it is probably the one thing that happens when you start having women fall into your lap.
*You must have the utmost respect for YOURSELF. You teach others how you want them to treat you by what you allow. If a woman doesnt respect you things will go nowhere.
*You cannot be afraid to drop a chick when things go sideways, things arent benefiting you, etc. You are dating for the reason to add fun to your life and if a woman cant contribute to that, its time to walk away. This is where having options/true abundance and an abundant mindset make it easy to walk away when you need to do so.

6. Abundance: Having abundance (true abundance) gives you confidence. It gives you swag. It will keep you from over communicating and killing the vibe. It keeps you secure instead of insecure. It truly separates you from most of the competition that you dont know about in the dating world. You have no idea how often I hear this from a woman while she is out with me- "You dont act like the other guys who blow my phone up all day". That in itself gets their hamster spinning and generates attraction.
*You cant have 4 women to spin until you get the first one. Its like dominoes. Knock the first one down and you will see more start to fall. This is why its so important to not only be working on yourself at all times but also getting out and socializing as you never know when more women that you could be interested in will fall into your lap.
*Once I bang a chick and realize she is getting hooked, I stop initiating all communication and only respond back to her reaching out. This is because I want to create some of that good anxiety that I talked about in a recent thread.
*When I chick is chasing you, you cant be chasing her. With abundance you will not chase women. Sure you will make it easy to see her, but you wont chase her.

I share a lot of my stories with @BeExcellent . She has seen many pics of women that I spin as plates, date, etc. Sure I will bang a 7 if she is fun and outgoing. But most women are higher value women and in my area and certainly the top of the food chain in terms of dating prospects.

Quick story- I was dating a Physicians Assistant for almost 2 months. I snagged her before she truly hit the dating market (story for another time). Very attractive woman, mid 30's. She also knew that she was in the top tier of the dating pool around here and I am sure that she has no problems getting attention from men. Matter of fact, most guys would cancel whatever they had going on to go out with her. But I am different and she has quickly realized. I truly do have abundance. Which she quickly realized. So I stopped seeing her a couple of weeks ago and it blew her mind that I could do such a thing since she sees herself as such a catch. At the end of the day she has too much drama in her life that I am unwilling to deal with and along with some other issues concerning her, I knew it was best to drop her and spend that time on other chicks, which I did. So along came the "fvck you" texts from her, then the apologies, etc. She is still texting me trying to decipher where she stands but I am indifferent and dont give her the response. Sorry princess, but I am not like the other guys that pamper you with attention and will put up with your BS just to keep seeing you. Nah, I dont have time for that.

Needless to say she is not very happy with me and that is ok. But she respects me. And she respects that I did what is best for me. That alone will keep this chick hooked far longer than some chick that I only had sex with. She will quickly find out how devouring the dating world is when both her feet hits the ground and she starts putting herself out there and dating other men.

Any woman that I have walked away from that still had the upmost respect for me is still on the hook as long as she is not in a serious relationship. Meaning I could call/text her and she would come over. On the flip side, the few times I lost my cool, acted insecure or did something to lose respect.....well those women are gone.

Think about that.

Happy Hunting

IDK dude... Seems like a lot of work and balancing @ 44. I'm 38 and I'm juggling an ER career along with managing my real estate portfolio. I ain't got time for that. 1k a month on 3 females? Rather focus on one or two and the rest to purchase another investment property. Then again, I hate spending money that yields zero return. At 38, $$$ is more important to me than variety of pus; but that's me. In my 20's, I usually fvcked around with three or four at a time; I don't have that luxury of free time anymore. Kudos to you for walking away for a minute from the hot chick. I've done that in the past, and it works like a charm for many.

 

[Dr.Suave]

One 22 year old, 28 year old, 33 year old and a 36 year old.

I love that you pulled a 22 year old. Got me thinking about something that happened a few months ago when I was spinning plates between LTRs.

Im 35, my sister is 23. So a few months ago I was spinning plates, building my rotation, and managed to match with a 22 year old on a dating app and we went out and she liked me and was down for more dates.

So I kinda bragged to my sis that I was pulling younger girls than her. She said that the age difference was kinda giving her cringe or something ( my sister is a bit of a femin@z1). I told her its not my fault that the girl match me, that she was letting old post wall femin@az1s get in her head and that it was kind of hypocrit of her to say that as she has been such an advocate for women´s choice.

 

[Glassguy]

IDK dude... Seems like a lot of work and balancing @ 44. I'm 38 and I'm juggling an ER career along with managing my real estate portfolio. I ain't got time for that. 1k a month on 3 females? Rather focus on one or two and the rest to purchase another investment property. Then again, I hate spending money that yields zero return. At 38, $$$ is more important to me than variety of pus; but that's me. In my 20's, I usually fvcked around with three or four at a time; I don't have that luxury of free time anymore. Kudos to you for walking away for a minute from the hot chick. I've done that in the past, and it works like a charm for many.

I said it was not wise to spend crazy amounts of money dating. And a person shouldnt have to. I can see spending $50 occasionally on a new prospect over drinks and some food.......but that is when you are pulling a chick off of the bench and into the game and shouldnt be a steady thing that happens.

Some people spend that kind of money dating monthly or spend it going out to bars in a month and dont realize its wasted money.

 

[Glassguy]

I love that you pulled a 22 year old. Got me thinking about something that happened a few months ago when I was spinning plates between LTRs.

Im 35, my sister is 23. So a few months ago I was spinning plates, building my rotation, and managed to match with a 22 year old on a dating app and we went out and she liked me and was down for more dates.

So I kinda bragged to my sis that I was pulling younger girls than her. She said that the age difference was kinda giving her cringe or something ( my sister is a bit of a femin@z1). I told her its not my fault that the girl match me, that she was letting old post wall femin@az1s get in her head and that it was kind of hypocrit of her to say that as she has been such an advocate for women´s choice.

I knew this chick as she works in a small grocery store that I drop by often. I walked in a few weeks ago on a Saturday night, looking good and smelling good, and she asked me what type of cologne I was wearing. I told her it was Versace blue and she said she wanted to get some for the guy she was talking to. Saw her a couple of days later and she said she ordered a small bottle. Fast forward to a week later, I dropped by, asked her how her guy liked the cologne. She told me that she broke it off with him. I added her on fb on the spot and added her as a friend, told her to let me know if she wanted to ditch the cologne because I could use another bottle.

20 minutes later she is messaging me on fb telling me that she thinks I am hot and loves the way I smell when I come into the store. Tells me that she wanted her dude at the time to smell like me.

Another hour later she gets off work, comes over and we bang. She comes over about one evening a week after she gets off work. She says she has never messed around with an older guy but every time we hook up she goes on and on about how I can make sure that she gets hers several times while banging.

There are a lot of attractive chicks in their early 20s that are either openly or secretly attracted to older guys and will start hooking up with us older dudes if we just be direct and dont act like the age difference is a big deal.

 

[Mike32ct]

Grand a month for a three-chick rotation.

I guess something like $333/mo for one gf isn’t bad though.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I am impressed that you can find the time to juggle four plates. How many times per month do you see each?

 

[Glassguy]

Grand a month for a three-chick rotation.

I guess something like $333/mo for one gf isn’t bad though.

Let me clarify again......I dont spend $1k a month dating. I am just pointing out that some people do and not only is it not necessary, but ridiculous!

 

[Glassguy]

I am impressed that you can find the time to juggle four plates. How many times per month do you see each?

One comes over once a week. Literally at my house for an hour- hour and a half. I go see one once a week. Another hour- hour and a half. Throw in an hour- 2 hr date during the week.

Its really not that time consuming as long as the majority of your time with them is spent at your house or a quick drinks date.

 

[Hal9000]

Lots of good advice here. I was in a similar situation in my late 40s. Had several on somewhat of a rotation. It got to the point with most of them that they would come over just to hook up and then leave. Rarely a public outing, which was great expense wise and allowed me to take a quick shower and then head out for the evening if I wanted. Its an excellent confidence builder and really accelerates your expertise sexually as women tend to have a very wide range of things they are into sexually once they are comfortable opening up to you. Thing is, that they all knew they werent the only ones, and even teased me about it (even had a couple bring friends over for ffm) but they were getting what they wanted and didnt care. These were normal productive members of society so it wasn't like I was hooking up with strippers or something more risky.

It was fairly exhausting though. After a few years of it, I finally decided it was time to settle down so I did. Would highly recommend doing it for a while to anyone who can pull it off however.

 

[Mike32ct]

Let me clarify again......I dont spend $1k a month dating. I am just pointing out that some people do and not only is it not necessary, but ridiculous!

Totally understood. I agree.

 

[Glassguy]

OP is one of the few guys in this forum I find myself paying attention to.

I really appreciate your advice and look forward to one day being in a similar position in terms of dating. I'm in my early 30's, and unfortunately, this idea of women "falling into my lap" is so far outside of my reality that I can't even visualize it if I tried. I'm incredibly jealous of you guys pulling this off right now.

However, the idea of only entertaining women who put in some effort makes sense.

Your shared ideas have helped liberate me from pursuing nonsense and squandering my time. My career and fitness have skyrocketed once I finally detached myself from the petty pursuit of "romance."

I acknowledge I have work to do, and I'm doing it. One day, I'll get there...one day.

Stay on your course of self improvement brother. You're still young in the dating world.

Realistically I can have 15 chicks asking me what I'm getting into this evening (which is exactly what happened today after putting a rare selfie on my fb page) to only a handful next week. That's the way it works.

Establish 2 good ones to date and build upon it.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

@Glassguy is akin to a number of other men who I know well who operate similarly in the dating world. He is a fit, confident, relatively successful, socially adroit high value man who is direct about what he wants and is true first to himself. This is rare out there in single land. Difficult to find. Therefore such a man is sought after. He also is grounded and easy going. He is the template of what high quality women want, and the results are in line with that. Rare & high value. It’s a marketplace out there. Women want the most appealing man on their radar just like men want the most appealing women.

It can be hard to believe if that reality is far from the way you currently exist. But it is out there and as a man crafts himself into a desirable man, and as a man builds his social muscle, you’ll see changes in the way people relate to you.

Glass is also a really upbeat, positive man. He doesn’t get down in the dumps even in tough moments. He is circumspect and slow to anger. Patient. People are drawn to his positive attitude and appetite for fun as much as anything. Then they see the substance that backs up the fun positive person and they realize they’ve got something. Something that pvssy alone isn’t going to hold onto for a relationship, which is what the PA chick just found out the hard way. Oh well. Deuces. She is going to realize what a lost opportunity she had once she really hits the dating market fully. It’s going to be a rude awakening for her.

I agree with the points made. I know some say always escalate but with women who are themselves a hot commodity and have lots of good options? It can backfire. Glass knows this. And his needs are getting met so who cares if one chick takes a few more dates to warm up? If sex alone was what made solid relationships then every guy here would be happily settled in with the hottest crazy he could find. But that isn’t what makes great partnerships long term alone. Any experienced dude knows that & could write a dissertation about it. I know my guy could.

Great post Glass. Now go see what sort of mischief you can get yourself into this weekend…

Cheers.

 

[Glassguy]

All great info.

The only thing I don't agree with is your advice on not trying to escalate on the first date. I've experimented with this many times. It's always better to escalate quickly in person if you like her - this means getting flirty and sexualizing the conversation, and then trying to steer her to your place. Reality is more brutal than you imagine. While you are "taking it slow" over 3 dates, she's getting her dose of d1ck from some other rude boy that is showing her he has balls and isn't afraid.

Women "complain" about guys who try to fvck them on the first date. They probably even tell you this themselves. It's a lie. Women love it when a man makes his sexual intentions known on a first date if he delivers it the right way and has suitability aroused her beforehand.

For me, taking a girl on 3 sexless dates before hinting about her coming to my place sounds tedious as hell. There's no guarantee that she'll come over on the 3rd date either. She might be just enjoying the free meals and tooling the guy the whole time (and this happens regularly). Contrary to what guys think, women don't actually need very long to decide if they like a guy. They say "I need time to get to know you more" to buy themselves time.

It comes down to this toxic notion that men have - "I must spend money and time on a woman to earn her vagina." It is the wrong approach and leads to a market of overly inflated vaginas and women who now expect 3+ restaurant dates before she'll even consider sex.

You make good points. But I'm getting the milk for free from several sources so I have no need to be in a rush. And with some chicks I have fun hanging out and enjoying their company. But there is certainly a line in the sand on how much time should be invested. It comes down to my intent, other options and plenty of other variables. There is no one size fits all.

And I never said I don't get sexual or escalate on a first date. I've have plenty of first date lays. Probably have one in store tonight.
I just don't push super hard and I react to a woman's actions. I don't act like some thirsty MF that hasn't seen pvssy in 3 months.

 

[Glassguy]

Advice from the old lady:

@Glassguy is akin to a number of other men who I know well who operate similarly in the dating world. He is a fit, confident, relatively successful, socially adroit high value man who is direct about what he wants and is true first to himself. This is rare out there in single land. Difficult to find. Therefore such a man is sought after. He also is grounded and easy going. He is the template of what high quality women want, and the results are in line with that. Rare & high value. It’s a marketplace out there. Women want the most appealing man on their radar just like men want the most appealing women.

It can be hard to believe if that reality is far from the way you currently exist. But it is out there and as a man crafts himself into a desirable man, and as a man builds his social muscle, you’ll see changes in the way people relate to you.

Glass is also a really upbeat, positive man. He doesn’t get down in the dumps even in tough moments. He is circumspect and slow to anger. Patient. People are drawn to his positive attitude and appetite for fun as much as anything. Then they see the substance that backs up the fun positive person and they realize they’ve got something. Something that pvssy alone isn’t going to hold onto for a relationship, which is what the PA chick just found out the hard way. Oh well. Deuces. She is going to realize what a lost opportunity she had once she really hits the dating market fully. It’s going to be a rude awakening for her.

I agree with the points made. I know some say always escalate but with women who are themselves a hot commodity and have lots of good options? It can backfire. Glass knows this. And his needs are getting met so who cares if one chick takes a few more dates to warm up? If sex alone was what made solid relationships then every guy here would be happily settled in with the hottest crazy he could find. But that isn’t what makes great partnerships long term alone. Any experienced dude knows that & could write a dissertation about it. I know my guy could.

Great post Glass. Now go see what sort of mischief you can get yourself into this weekend…

Cheers.

Solid post and i appreciate the compliments. Dont go telling the rest of SoSuave all my secrets.....I don't want too much competition.
I just canceled on the date I had planned for this evening for a better option. She gave me her address to pick her up for drinks (first date) and I will probably take a trip over to PoundTown lol.
Tomorrow and Sunday are now filled. Abundance.

I'll find the mischief. You can bet on that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Women "complain" about guys who try to fvck them on the first date. They probably even tell you this themselves. It's a lie. Women love it when a man makes his sexual intentions known on a first date if he delivers it the right way and has suitability aroused her beforehand.

This is key imo if done correctly. You can turn what would otherwise have been a kiss into a fondling session, a fondling session into sex, and a maybe girl into a yes girl. With girls who typically take it slower you can cut out a date it otherwise would have taken, and you can increase your chances of first-date sex with girls who are open to it.

 

[BadBoy89]

If sex alone was what made solid relationships then every guy here would be happily settled in with the hottest crazy he could find. But that isn’t what makes great partnerships long term alone. Any experienced dude knows that & could write a dissertation about it. I know my guy could.

I think that's what every guy here wants. He wants the youngest, hottest, sexiest most fertile girl to have sex with.

I don't think guys "want" relationships. It's brainwashing by the media and powers that be to keep men in check, not threaten their power, and keep spending money on women. Men want sex with young girls. It's all about young young young. Those "incels" don't blow up because they can't have relationships with 39-year-old single mothers, they blow up because they can't have sex with 19-year hot college students.

Relationships would make more sense if women didn't have freedom, power, and access to society's resources, but when they have that and more, for a man to get into a long-term fully stable fully committed relationship with a non-fertile non-virgin woman makes no sense.

 

[BeExcellent]

I think that's what every guy here wants. He wants the youngest, hottest, sexiest most fertile girl to have sex with.

I don't think guys "want" relationships. It's brainwashing by the media and powers that be to keep men in check, not threaten their power, and keep spending money on women. Men want sex with young girls. It's all about young young young. Those "incels" don't blow up because they can't have relationships with 39-year-old single mothers, they blow up because they can't have sex with 19-year hot college students.

Relationships would make more sense if women didn't have freedom, power, and access to society's resources, but when they have that and more, for a man to get into a long-term fully stable fully committed relationship with a non-fertile non-virgin woman makes no sense.

Listen. That’s all well fine & good. How’s that working out for ya? My boyfriend does not want kids of his own. Period. In fact he’s dumped hot fertile young women because guess what? They want kids. He has zero interest in babies. He also has had enough notch counts from crazies, strippers, groupies, and the like that he’s over all that too. He wants hot, no question. He also wants a quality partner with her act together who is emotionally stable & loyal and fun and caring.

It is difficult to find that combination: Low on the crazy scale but high on the hot scale. So he’s found it and he really loves it.

You see in time all the rotations wear out on novelty. Without exception each player/playboy hopes to find a quality partner and drop the effort required to spin plates.

But they don’t get to that point until they reach a point of realizing the meaninglessness that the constant conquest seeking gets to after awhile.

The irony is that the only men who understand the statement above are those with actual abundance to the point of understanding that constantly spinning plates is exhausting after a while and a time sink in addition to being expensive. All players and playboys eventually arrive at this realization. What they do once they get to that point varies. But they ALL get there.

Time is the most valuable thing anyone has. As years go by the value of time becomes perceived as more valuable and people who are serious about quality of life concentrate on quality interactions that take up their time rather than meaningless interactions that waste time.

Humans are social critters and eventually want a solid partner, even men

 

[Dr.Suave]

I think that's what every guy here wants. He wants the youngest, hottest, sexiest most fertile girl to have sex with.

I don't think guys "want" relationships. It's brainwashing by the media and powers that be to keep men in check, not threaten their power, and keep spending money on women. Men want sex with young girls. It's all about young young young. Those "incels" don't blow up because they can't have relationships with 39-year-old single mothers, they blow up because they can't have sex with 19-year hot college students.

Relationships would make more sense if women didn't have freedom, power, and access to society's resources, but when they have that and more, for a man to get into a long-term fully stable fully committed relationship with a non-fertile non-virgin woman makes no sense.

Very true