A woman's prime years are 25-35, not 18-25

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You're changing your original premise. Based on your thread title, one would assume that you're saying a female that's took care of herself is better at 25-35; than that same female at 18-25. Obviously the 25-35 year old is not too old, but she's not as good as her younger self. I am of the belief that females don't really emotionally mature past say 15, so there is no advantage to the older version of the girl. They do mentally mature, but if they have the emotional maturity of a 15 year old, how are you going to connect with her any different?
Plenty of women aren't even fully developed at 18 let alone know how to workout. She could've been overweight at 18-20 or had other priorities and then fixed them by 23. Hell, I look better now then when I was at 18. This isn't gender exclusive either, if you take care of yourself you will look better in your mid twenties to 30s. You must live in Sharpsville, WV where people peak at 20 because they over eat and work stressful jobs at the coal mine because I really don't know what to say at this point. If I never left my shvtty hometown I grew up in then I would understand where you are coming from everyone looks like **** past 20, but sense I left that shvthole town I have to completely disagree with this logic.
 

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The same woman that doesn't cash out her youth thotting/having kids, maintains a decent physical health plan, properly matures will have a HIGHER peak from 25-30 because she's still young and can have kids, she will be mature enough to properly attract a higher smv guy in his 30s to 40s while a girl that's not even old enough to buy a beer yet alone rent a car will only be able to secure relationships with younger guys and transactional sugar daddy relationships with older guys.
Her physical attractiveness will still peak in her early 20's. Emotional "maturity" has nothing to do with physical attractiveness. You are comparing apples to hairdryers.
 

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You must live in Sharpsville, WV where people peak at 20 because they over eat and work stressful jobs at the coal mine because I really don't know what to say at this point. If I never left my shvtty hometown I grew up in then I would understand where you are coming from everyone looks like **** past 20, but sense I left that shvthole town I have to completely disagree with this logic.
You're engaging in redutio ad absurdum.

You keep going back to when a female isn't on point in her younger years. I thought the premise was if a female is on point since becoming an adult, that she's better when she's 25-35.
 

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No, I am saying that a 20 year old woman that wastes her body and years drinking/thotting/having kids out of wedlock will have peaked at 18-20 and never be able to recover from that. The damage will always show on her face, she will have kids with another man, and her emotions and mental thinking will be permanently damaged.
That part I agree with.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that a 25-30 year old girl is too old and ugly then you are either.....
Never said that. Not even the same context. I'm talking about the peak medically/physically. The ability to conceive and bare reliably healty children drops after 25 and can become dangerous around 30 and later. The peak for doing such is around mid-teen to 25. It is biology, not sociology.

A) too young to understand or B) You never left or live in some hood/crappy town where the peak is 18-20 because they were never going to amount to **** in the first place or the girls with value leave the place as soon as they can. This actually tells me a lot about yourself because you are not used to being around higher value people.
With the number of threads we have been in together you would know better than that,...so you probably just never looked at who you were replying to. No worry,...it happens.
 

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Her physical attractiveness will still peak in her early 20's. Emotional "maturity" has nothing to do with physical attractiveness. You are comparing apples to hairdryers.
Physical attractive peaks are dependent on the individual

You're engaging in redutio ad absurdum.

You keep going back to when a female isn't on point in her younger years. I thought the premise was if a female is on point since becoming an adult, that she's better when she's 25-35.
yes because most people...Men and women don't take care of themselves and look like **** by 22 especially in areas like Gary, Indiana and Scottsville, Ohio.


Girl in question at age 19


Still looks good because of genetics but dunno why you'd prefer her current version over her younger self. Less miles, more naive
Tbh she's really not my type and idk who she is or what she looks like now
 
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Lets look at Venessa Hudgens for example
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She literally looks like a teenager on the left vs on the right she clearly looks more developed, knows what stile works for her now and grown in to her body.

Most Celebs are going to prove my point because they literally make money to maintain their beauty and appearance.
 
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yes because most people...Men and women don't take care of themselves and look like **** by 22 especially in areas like Gary, Indiana and Scottsville, Ohio.
Gary, IN is kind of an arm pit anyway isn't it?...particularly the north side with all the rotting industrial areas along the lake,...basically an extension of the Chicago south-side..
 

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Lets look at Venessa Hudgens for example
Still hot. But used up compared to when she was 18.
Most Celebs are going to prove my point because they literally make money to maintain their beauty and appearance.
They have money. Which gives them access to the best plastic surgeons in the world. Better to use a non celebrity like the girl I posted. Who works for one of the largest digital media companies in the world in new york city. Not sharpville west virginia or whatever funky ass town your talking about
 

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Gary, IN is kind of an arm pit anyway isn't it?...particularly the north side with all the rotting industrial areas along the lake,...basically an extension of the Chicago south-side..
lolz
Still hot. But used up compared to when she was 18.

They have money. Which gives them access to the best plastic surgeons in the world. Better to use a non celebrity like the girl I posted. Who works for one of the largest digital media companies in the world in new york city. Not sharpville west virginia or whatever funky ass town your talking about
Past the age of 35, I agree that's when having money is needed to help maintain youth. However, it's not hard to look good for your age if you eat right, exercise, and take care of yourself in general. If you don't take care of yourself and work a stressful blue collar job then of course you're going to look like **** the more you age.
 

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forty is the new twenty for sure bad health can leave to suicide for sure.Supplements/skincare/lotion equals awesome body.
 

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Wait what, this is ludicrous, what's your explanation Jake?

18-25 is only good for women that don't take care of themselves mentally, physically, and financially. Of course when you are overweight, have 3 kids out of wedlock, working at the Jakes Diner in Smithville, Arkansas at 26 because you slooted around, 18-25 is going to be your prime. Because of youth, immaturity, and little life experience, a woman can easily screw up the rest of her life during this period. In addition, if she is aiming for higher value men then most of her relationships are going be transactional at this point. Yes her youth is her greatest strength but it is also her greatest liability.

25-35 If a woman didn't cash out her life during her younger years, developed a fitness plan, matured, and etc then this will be her prime years.
1) She is still attractive and do not go and tell me this bull shvt that only women under the age of 22 are attractive or I'll get Chris Hansen to send you a message.
2) She is mature enough for higher value man in their late/early 40s. Again, any guy over 30 dating a college aged girl is in a transactional relationship plain and simple. I'm dating a 21 year old right now and I can barely tolerate the immature bs, so I couldn't even imagine a 40 year old doing this.
3) She can still have children without any risk of complications at this age range
IDK wtf your talking about, there are shades of grey. ALL relationships are transactional. I'm 30 good career, attractive, muscular, confident, I would say women 25 and below tend to have an animalistic attraction to me. Where they know nothing about me but just want my ****. I get it from a lot of older women too, BUT I've found that women 30 and up are looking for a beta to marry and play house with. Older women definitely come off with a more transactional tone at least for me. Ultimately it all varies on your frame, I don't care what she wants if my needs are not fulfilled; this attitude results in them either leaving or trying harder. Either works for me.
 

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Most older men do not want children. Imagine being post divorced with 2 kids at age 50 and meeting a woman, do you really want more kids at this point?
At what age do you think men stop wanting to have children if they don't have them? I would say 40 to be on the safe side.

I have known some single fathers of 2 or more kids in their late 30s. These aren't the kind of guys that want more kids. One of these single fathers has outright stated his preference for no more kids.

It becomes more difficult for single fathers 35-45 to date women in their 30s/early 40s who are childless because a lot of these childless single women want to have kids. Often times, if they want an LTR, it ends up being with a single mom who doesn't want more kids.

BUT I've found that women 30 and up are looking for a beta to marry and play house with. Older women definitely come off with a more transactional tone at least for me. Ultimately it all varies on your frame, I don't care what she wants if my needs are not fulfilled; this attitude results in them either leaving or trying harder. Either works for me.
This is mostly true. As a late 30s guy who has mainly dated women less than 5 years younger (but still younger) during my 30s, I can say this is real. With the "one date, no sex, no second date" women, a lot of those interactions evaporated before I could sense if they were looking for Mr. Provider to play house with. I have gotten some mid-30s women to put out by tinging my game with a few provider elements. If a woman in her 30s senses you have some money, she'll try a little bit harder. I agree that either leaving or trying harder works for me.
 
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