If you are a westerner, you are missing out if you dont move to south east asia (phillipines, vietnam, thailand)

[Genetic Error]

Asia is a big place, honestly speaking SEA has the least attractive looking ones especially Filipina and Indonesian girls.

Korean,North Chinese and Japanese girls are very good looking.
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indos, thais, filipinos are all kinda deformed looking. vietnamese girls arent as good as chinese or korean but an improvement, thats why im gonna see what vietnams like

 

[metalwater]

You guys know what's worse than your typical spoiled Western women?

Spoiled Westernized Asian women.

If you're white and want to wed Asian chicks, you'll be fine as long as you stay in her place. The moment you bring her back to your homecountry, you're dead.

like many things it depends. I have sat in with the girl groups talking trash about this topic. seen the one that got a visa from a guy and then hypergamy two more levels. as bad as any western girl maybe worse.

on average more good character women by percentage than with western, but definitely still women and the man still needs to do the right stuff.

if the age gap is huge, don't bring her to your country, and don't marry her just keep her as a plate.

 

[metalwater]

Of course, so long as you have the cash of a first world country, you can more or less live there on the level of the first world.

better

 

[metalwater]

Asia is a big place, honestly speaking SEA has the least attractive looking ones especially Filipina and Indonesian girls.

Korean,North Chinese and Japanese girls are very good looking.
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had to give this a like, how could a healthy man not like this.

 

[MatureDJ]

Why would you visit a prostitute who rejected you a second time? Did she recognize you? What did you do this time that you feel made her accept you? Were you just more tanned and got paler?

Maybe the first time she had had some experience with a Middle Eastern that was fresh in her mind.

 

[B80]

indos, thais, filipinos are all kinda deformed looking. vietnamese girls arent as good as chinese or korean but an improvement, thats why im gonna see what vietnams like

Yeah, I guess on average you could be right. Those countries Zimbabwe/you mention have higher % of paler women. Good looking women everywhere though, google beauitful thai women or wherever, plenty of hot ones to choose from. Certainly not deformed looking lol.

As a side note, it was interesting how much Thais value paler skin. Opposite to the West in that they sold skin whitening cream everywhere, on advertising hoardings etc. Noticed how most the celebs/models were paler women too. They said it was due to darker skin being sign of low status, from poorer regions and working low status jobs such as manual workers, paddy fields etc being exposed to sun all day. Most of the bar girls are darker skin from poorer regions, choosing that over working in rural jobs. Not sure how much pressure they had from families to go and earn money in the city, sleeping with/trying to hook a foreigner.

Despite my negative insights on this, overall I'd recommend a trip out there. Certainly brought me out of my shell with women. Not sure I'd go out to SE Asia with purpose of finding a long term g/f/wife, unless moving out there, earning a lot of money, learning the language and interacting with more 'wholesome' social groups. Was a lot of fun and if you're young/good looking you'll clean up pretty well without visiting the proper 'gogo' type bars that the region is famous for.

 

[corrector]

Maybe the first time she had had some experience with a Middle Eastern that was fresh in her mind.

That is beside the point. If people are misidentifying you as middle eastern then you dont really look white. People misidentify me as middle eastern too. The problem is if you look like anything but nordic white then you dont have that same edge. If filipinos have a problem with middle eastern guys then we would also fall into that net.

Anyhow, I still cant wrap my head about why you would risk rejection a second time with a prostitute who rejected you because you look middle eastern. i dont think any guy on this board would give their money to an escort that made them feel bad. You dont think that is wierd?

 

[Epicenter]

That is beside the point. If people are misidentifying you as middle eastern then you dont really look white. People misidentify me as middle eastern too. The problem is if you look like anything but nordic white then you dont have that same edge. If filipinos have a problem with middle eastern guys then we would also fall into that net.

Anyhow, I still cant wrap my head about why you would risk rejection a second time with a prostitute who rejected you because you look middle eastern. i dont think any guy on this board would give their money to an escort that made them feel bad. You dont think that is wierd?

If you are not mentally weak you would not care about the rejection because you value the experience much more.

You can see that also as simping. Depends on your perspective.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Asia is a big place, honestly speaking SEA has the least attractive looking ones especially Filipina and Indonesian girls.

Korean,North Chinese and Japanese girls are very good looking.
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I don’t disagree but the poor rice peasant women the pro move people are targeting look nothing like these women. These Asian women most likely live in the big cities and have high standards for men like western women.

 

[metalwater]

I don’t disagree but the poor rice peasant women the pro move people are targeting look nothing like these women. These Asian women most likely live in the big cities and have high standards for men like western women.

take the makeup off and change the clothes, it's the same.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

take the makeup off and change the clothes, it's the same.

You are in complete denial, Idk how this is even contestable because this basic class economics. You're basically saying Kim Kardashian and the homeless woman down the street look the same naked/hygienic wise. Those girls aren't baking in the sun all day doing farm work without healthcare, they have white collar jobs and hobbies.

 

[zinc4]

I don’t disagree but the poor rice peasant women the pro move people are targeting look nothing like these women. These Asian women most likely live in the big cities and have high standards for men like western women.

Those type of women have very high standards because they can bag a both very wealthy local man and/or wealthy foreigner as well. It's actually much easier in the US than east Asia if you are targeting top tier looking women. The language barrier alone is a ***** to navigate. Mandarin is not easy to learn and takes lots of diligent studying/practice. Korean Hangul isnt so bad though i guess. Then you got the money issue. Top tier Asian women are very materialistic.

If you are wealthy and willing to learn mandarin or Korean/Japanese then east Asia would be a paradise. If not, stick to SE Asia or the US.

The ONLY exceptions for this rule are blonde hair blue eyed chad tier nordic looking guys. They still wont be able to seriously date with the top tier if low income though. They will just be like the girls dirty little secret. Not bad though if you are just interested in casual sex.

I have seen plenty of model tier men over there get crushed emotionally by these women who dumped them for a local wealthy guy. They had alpha looks but beta mindsets though.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Those type of women have very high standards because they can bag a both very wealthy local man and/or wealthy foreigner as well. It's actually much easier in the US than east Asia if you are targeting top tier looking women. The language barrier alone is a ***** to navigate. Mandarin is not easy to learn and takes lots of diligent studying/practice. Korean Hangul isnt so bad though i guess. Then you got the money issue. Top tier Asian women are very materialistic.

If you are wealthy and willing to learn mandarin or Korean/Japanese then east Asia would be a paradise. If not, stick to SE Asia or the US.

The ONLY exceptions for this rule are blonde hair blue eyed chad tier nordic looking guys. They still wont be able to seriously date with the top tier if low income though. They will just be like the girls dirty little secret. Not bad though if you are just interested in casual sex.

I have seen plenty of model tier men over there get crushed emotionally by these women who dumped them for a local wealthy guy. They had alpha looks but beta mindsets though.

So we can agree that we are targeting low hanging fruit in Asia? Why not target low hanging fruit in America? Go to a small town in West Virgnia and find you a poor broad.

 

[zinc4]

So we can agree that we are targeting low hanging fruit in Asia? Why not target low hanging fruit in America? Go to a small town in West Virgnia and find you a poor broad.

In east Asia, unless you look like a sweedish model or are very wealthy, then yes, you will most definitely be stuck with the low hanging fruit. SE Asia is a bit different, especially the Phillipines and Indonesia.

You guys need to remember, all of the economies in east Asia are exploding right now and have been for a while now. The standard of living is very good....especially in Korea, Taiwan and Japan. All the mid to big Chinese cities as well. And feminism is starting to run rampant over there. The once traditional and submissive behaving women over there are rapidly transforming to "strong independent career women."

I heard that the 90s and 80s were pretty epic for foreigners though in east Asia. I feel like i caught the last of the best years in Taiwan from 2008 to 2014. Had some of the best times of my life there.

I came back 2 years ago to Taipei and it definitely felt very different than compared to when i was last there. The newest younger generation is alot different from what i saw....similiar to what is happening in the US. Online dating for example was much more difficult i noticed than before and so was nightlife game. In fact after 2010 i first observed it getting more difficult. But by 2019 and early 2020 it had taken a huge leap up in difficulty.

 

[Genetic Error]

So we can agree that we are targeting low hanging fruit in Asia? Why not target low hanging fruit in America? Go to a small town in West Virgnia and find you a poor broad.

there is no low hanging fruit in america apart from giga landwhales

 

[Genetic Error]

In east Asia, unless you look like a sweedish model or are very wealthy, then yes, you will most definitely be stuck with the low hanging fruit. SE Asia is a bit different, especially the Phillipines and Indonesia.

You guys need to remember, all of the economies in east Asia are exploding right now and have been for a while now. The standard of living is very good....especially in Korea, Taiwan and Japan. All the mid to big Chinese cities as well. And feminism is starting to run rampant over there. The once traditional and submissive behaving women over there are rapidly transforming to "strong independent career women."

I heard that the 90s and 80s were pretty epic for foreigners though in east Asia. I feel like i caught the last of the best years in Taiwan from 2008 to 2014. Had some of the best times of my life there.

I came back 2 years ago to Taipei and it definitely felt very different than compared to when i was last there. The newest younger generation is alot different from what i saw....similiar to what is happening in the US. Online dating for example was much more difficult i noticed than before and so was nightlife game. In fact after 2010 i first observed it getting more difficult. But by 2019 and early 2020 it had taken a huge leap up in difficulty.

ive heard similar from other people. why do you think its getting more difficult now?

 

[corrector]

If you are not mentally weak you would not care about the rejection because you value the experience much more.

You can see that also as simping. Depends on your perspective.

I agree, you should not care about the rejection from A REAL WOMAN because that's nature and it goes with the territory of a numbers game, whether it's OLD, cold approaching, etc.... If someone's escortcelling its because they are being rejected by real women. Being a rejected by a prostitute that is supposed to be a last resort if you can't be with a real woman just seems on another level.

 

[Epicenter]

I agree, you should not care about the rejection from A REAL WOMAN because that's nature and it goes with the territory of a numbers game, whether it's OLD, cold approaching, etc.... If someone's escortcelling its because they are being rejected by real women. Being a rejected by a prostitute that is supposed to be a last resort if you can't be with a real woman just seems on another level.

I guess you are a romantic. Anyway you might be able to agree that a pro who is a 10 might be better than the ugly real women.

Think about a massage service. You can get it from a real women who is not skilled or from a pro.

Mostly guys who have problems with that have some ideological stuff going on.

The only thing real in this world is that it is an illusion. You are living in a dark cave. Your brain is located in a cave.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

In east Asia, unless you look like a sweedish model or are very wealthy, then yes, you will most definitely be stuck with the low hanging fruit. SE Asia is a bit different, especially the Phillipines and Indonesia.

You guys need to remember, all of the economies in east Asia are exploding right now and have been for a while now. The standard of living is very good....especially in Korea, Taiwan and Japan. All the mid to big Chinese cities as well. And feminism is starting to run rampant over there. The once traditional and submissive behaving women over there are rapidly transforming to "strong independent career women."

I heard that the 90s and 80s were pretty epic for foreigners though in east Asia. I feel like i caught the last of the best years in Taiwan from 2008 to 2014. Had some of the best times of my life there.

I came back 2 years ago to Taipei and it definitely felt very different than compared to when i was last there. The newest younger generation is alot different from what i saw....similiar to what is happening in the US. Online dating for example was much more difficult i noticed than before and so was nightlife game. In fact after 2010 i first observed it getting more difficult. But by 2019 and early 2020 it had taken a huge leap up in difficulty.

Exactly, when I was in Japan, I saw the local girls turn down white guys/half japanese/white guys left and right and these guys looked liked models. The ones with gfs were dating other white women and you're only chance at getting action was going to foreign friendly spots where girls with foreign fetishes flocked to.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yes I know some onlinegamblers who live/lived incredible lifestyles in places like chiang mai Thailand whilst earning 5 figure gbp a month. Seemed to be very popular amongst that set. Maybe not so much now that online poker isn't as lucrative, but imagine plenty of them moved into crypto scene and doing well from that.

Other thing is pitfalls like you say. In Thailand used to be very difficult to own land in yiur own name for some reason. No doubt ways around it, other than putting in yiur newly found love, which of course carries other risks...so if planning on living there, need to consider stuff like that.

Another consideration is they're very family orientated where the culture expects kids to look after their parents - financially. So good chance you'll be expected to support them to some degree to. Ties in with risk of placing assets such as property in your wife's name...

I think fellas need to level up and situate oneself in a lifestyle that permits any of these possibilities. Domain independence. Location independence. Not corporate. No Karen. No independent woman. No modern women. Putting anything in a eomans name sounds like red pill guys and sugar babies. Likely won't end well. I do think there's sovereignty elsewhere and rare better caliber women.