The Dating Power Flip at Age 30

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It's a tricky scenario. The baddie covered in tattoos or your high school crush is in college gang bangs. Wrecked before 21. I remember older men banging girls in high school. The girls are a mess today. Single mom's and fat as ****kkk. I saw the other girls who were plain Jane hit their stride late. Doll up. Low bodies. Developed late in school. I've never met a baddie who wasn't catch and release material. I've made the argument before I'd prefer peak smv 18-23 6/10 cute plain Jane over a late twenty something baddie. I will crush both. Older women are insufferable.
Sure younger women are often more attractive. My point being I'm not bothered by looks, though they're a bonus.

They got to bring something more to the table to get my attention.

If a less attractive woman can help me make more money, I'd do her instead of a hotter one who has nothing else to contribute.
 

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Sure younger women are often more attractive. My point being I'm not bothered by looks, though they're a bonus.

They got to bring something more to the table to get my attention.

If a less attractive woman can help me make more money, I'd do her instead of a hotter one who has nothing else to contribute.
I brought it up to @SW15 about Gen Z. Gen Z lads will gym cell until they get penor touched. Play house, stop lifting, and cucked. Similarly, Gen z modern women are the height of stupidity.

6/10 plane Jane just turned 18 over baddie but feminist *** dumpster. Modern women cannot fathom the concept of value added. In the words of KS, buy a dog. Die alone.

Happy holidays playboy. I hope it's going well. I love the concept of the holidays but the consumerism and the horror stories of in-laws is dreadful. Mother in-law boomer Karen. Shoot me now lulz!
 

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They got to bring something more to the table to get my attention.
There is nothing else a woman needs to bring to the table but your food while wearing a naked apron to bend her over in after finishing off a steak.
 

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There is nothing else a woman needs to bring to the table but your food while wearing a naked apron to bend her over in after finishing off a steak.
Talk for yourself. Any girl can do that for me. What separates the one I hang out with from the rest?
 

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Talk for yourself. Any girl can do that for me. What separates the one I hang out with from the rest?
The problem is not all girls will do that for you. And what separates women is obvious: they all come in different varieties, shapes, and sizes.
 

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I hold myself in esteem. If I happen to approach a woman who is a single mom, I eject from the situation. I value my time and only choose childless women.
Do you do it in a way that's obvious, so she knows you're rejecting her due to being a single mom? I'd hope so.
 

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I brought it up to @SW15 about Gen Z. Gen Z lads will gym cell until they get penor touched. Play house, stop lifting, and cucked. Similarly, Gen z modern women are the height of stupidity.
I don't know too much about Gen Z as an early Millennial. The oldest Gen Z's are 24. A good portion of Gen Z (1997-2012) are still under 18.

Never stop lifting. Playing house is often a bad idea.

Do you do it in a way that's obvious, so she knows you're rejecting her due to being a single mom? I'd hope so.
I do not. I let the conversation trail off and don't ask her out. I sometimes will mention that I am childless as a point of pride.
 

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The problem is not all girls will do that for you. And what separates women is obvious: they all come in different varieties, shapes, and sizes.
All interested women will do that for me.
Yet all interested women might not bring to the table the same capabilities.

If your measure of women is their physical appearance, we have different mindsets, as looks don't phase me anymore.
 

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If your measure of women is their physical appearance
That's the only measure that matters. And if they can cook and clean.

I hate to say it, but the only people who ever got on me for liking a woman for her looks was either women or guys like you that need "mental simulation" lol.
 

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So by this theory women (single, childless) should be easier to date in their 30's, but in practice they are harder.
every woman i know who hasnt had a kid by 28, is a complete lunatic.

also just to add to the topic, Theres women aged 30+ in my town who have literally just pushed another mans orgasm out their kitty, and instantly hit the dating market again with no problem whatsover.....

Men are pathetic as a group
 
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This might be contrary to popular forum opinion.

We are basing a woman's "power" as her attractiveness, and how she has lost most of her "power" by the time she's 40.

This in a sense automatically pedestalises women according to how attractive they are.

I say, screw the looks. See what how a woman regardless of her looks can help you grow or help you get closer to your goal/mission in life.

Those are the kind of women i would want around me.
its worse than the pedestal. These bitter men are so butthurt over women that they need to adhere to the notion that a woman becomes undateable after 22. This is the only thing they can do to seek revenge against the females that hurt them.
 

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its worse than the pedestal. These bitter men are so butthurt over women that they need to adhere to the notion that a woman becomes undateable after 22. This is the only thing they can do to seek revenge against the females that hurt them.
Hey man I'm saying youth and looks are sure factors for consideration. I'm just saying they shouldn't be priority though.

All women have a pair of titt!es and an @ss, not all of them can help you grow.
 

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All women have a pair of titt!es and an @ss, not all of them can help you grow.
The only way women help you grow is breaking a man's heart so men can learn to not depend on them as they were made to do. Don't become another man who thanks his wife for her support in the foreword of every book he writes.
 

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The only way women help you grow is breaking a man's heart so men can learn to not depend on them as they were made to do. Don't become another man who thanks his wife for her support in the foreword of every book he writes.
Digging your perspective.

I won't say you're completely off, in context to men who become codependent, get dumped and use that heartache to grow. Spot on.

In context to guys who don't, women can inspire if they have a varied life experience, motivate if they take care of themselves better, and balance out our aggression with a nurturing side.

There does exist a Yin to a Yang, and you'd only understand that if you ge beyond sex.

I agree that this understanding usually comes after abundant sexual access.

The filtering begins.
 

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In context to guys who don't, women can inspire if they have a varied life experience, motivate if they take care of themselves better, and balance out our aggression with a nurturing side.

There does exist a Yin to a Yang, and you'd only understand that if you ge beyond sex.

I agree that this understanding usually comes after abundant sexual access.
You keep saying "women uplift the man." That's not true at all, and has never been true. Nurture? Inspire? No, achievements and other men inspire us. Nurturing, no man needs nurturing less they're still a boy. And that nurture should come from another man.

None of this has anything to do with sex. But women are very close to that's all they are good for. If you are referring to the emotions a man gets when he with a woman, that's not "inspiring, nurturing" or any of that mess. It's just a man being attracted to a woman and wanting to mate with her. You're overthinking the aspect that we feel when we want to breed another woman.
 

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You keep saying "women uplift the man." That's not true at all, and has never been true. Nurture? Inspire? No, achievements and other men inspire us. Nurturing, no man needs nurturing less they're still a boy. And that nurture should come from another man.

None of this has anything to do with sex. But women are very close to that's all they are good for. If you are referring to the emotions a man gets when he with a woman, that's not "inspiring, nurturing" or any of that mess. It's just a man being attracted to a woman and wanting to mate with her. You're overthinking the aspect that we feel when we want to breed another woman.
You keep reiterating that women are good for sex only. That's your bottom line and I understand where you're coming from and.

For me sex is boring, so women shouldn't be of any use for me, yet they are.

Maybe you don't like having the presence of some feminine energy around you regardless of sex and attraction, and that's okay.
 

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You keep reiterating that women are good for sex only. That's your bottom line and I understand where you're coming from and.

For me sex is boring, so women shouldn't be of any use for me, yet they are.

Maybe you don't like having the presence of some feminine energy around you regardless of sex and attraction, and that's okay.
I have no problem with feminine energy. But it's a supplement, it doesn't make me depend on it. I'm a man, so yes, I want a female. I NEEEEED females to ****. That part of my psyche I cannot get rid of. If sex is no longer fun for you, it's been a wild ride on the masculine train and I bid you farewell. It's not what men should be hearing, however.
 

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@HaleyBaron

I've been skimming over darksprezzatura's comments the last couple days. And from what I see is he's playing a character online. There is no point in arguing with people like him because they will always take the position where what they says sounds "alpha" to the less experienced (something they think an alpha would say). But it's not he's real thoughts because no one (with experience and who is not hiding behind a character they've created online) actually thinks these things in real life.
 

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I have no problem with feminine energy. But it's a supplement, it doesn't make me depend on it. I'm a man, so yes, I want a female. I NEEEEED females to ****. That part of my psyche I cannot get rid of. If sex is no longer fun for you, it's been a wild ride on the masculine train and I bid you farewell. It's not what men should be hearing, however.
So what I'm understanding from your response is that:

you don't need a female's presence or her personality or feminity or whatever load of "mess" I mentioned earlier. (Apart from maybe cooking and cleaning)

you do need women to have sex with

you think if you start not not need women for sex or enjoy sex you aren't masculine anymore

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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What I'm saying is, I don't need any of the above and I don't give a cr@p.

What I need is power, money, more freedom and the ability to do what I want where I want.

For that I NEED people who could help me along the way, that includes women I spend time with in any form.

I'm done smashing supermodels since years now.

It vain and later I'm thinking of some goals I failed at because I wasted my TIME on people who weren't useful.
 

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