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really insightful. would love to hear some commentary from any and all members on this. this looks like several things together well explained and all 100% correct. this could be a road map for guys that want quality. it certainly describes the issues with social circle, that being the primary default way of things. never seen this explained exactly in this way before.

finding the broken one is actually the best...

what are the problems with this article's idea? or is it right?

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At a certain point, we all realize that it's too tiresome to always try and 'be' something different in the hopes of attracting someone we want.

I'm a fan of the advice my parents gave me when I was 8 - 'just be yourself'

It really is the best advice anyone can ever get.
 

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At a certain point, we all realize that it's too tiresome to always try and 'be' something different in the hopes of attracting someone we want.

I'm a fan of the advice my parents gave me when I was 8 - 'just be yourself'

It really is the best advice anyone can ever get.
When I just “be myself” I never attract anyone lol
 

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When I just “be myself” I never attract anyone lol
Stop trying to get a girl friend.... just be.. and the right one will happen when the time is right. *shrugs*

Be you... work on you.. stop needing women and eventually a woman will need you...
 

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When I just “be myself” I never attract anyone lol
When the day comes that we're old, gray, and on our deathbed, we're not going to be reflecting on all the 8.5s we could've banged when we were in our 30s. We're not going to wish we hooked up more, drank more, partied more.

We're going to wish we spent more time with family, spent more time impacting others, and spent more time doing things that really matter.
 

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Stop trying to get a girl friend.... just be.. and the right one will happen when the time is right. *shrugs*
Awful advice. Do the opposite of this.

I focused on myself/job/hobbies/etc and ignored women until I was 23. You know what a relatively high value 23 year-old gets when he doesn't understand women? ****ed over hardcore. You need to practice with women to know what to look for/avoid.
 

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Dude lost me at "I ****ed her for 6 hours strait" sorry man the dude is full of shyt
ya, I also thought the six hours was crazy. maybe he is just exaggerating on that point or 6 hours had some breaks in it.
 

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At a certain point, we all realize that it's too tiresome to always try and 'be' something different in the hopes of attracting someone we want.

I'm a fan of the advice my parents gave me when I was 8 - 'just be yourself'

It really is the best advice anyone can ever get.
I like that, but it depends. For some, it works for others it doesn't. Who we are can be very good in some ways but not at all attractive to women.
 

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is it right?
The article shed some light on the girls you will sleep with from cold approach.

Before this it was always: attracted and sexually available.

But this didn't explain why there were girls who were attracted to and were sexually available (no boyfriend/husband) to the PUA, yet the PUA wasn't able to fvck her.

Until know the 2 most common reasons for this from the two camps were

Red Pillers: she was a time waster. She wasn't actually attracted (them trying to gaslight the PUA into ignoring his instincts that told him she was attracted to him).

PUAs: Anti-Slut Defense (ASD). You didn't frame it so that she would feel good about letting you fvck her ASAP (there are girls who will fvck strangers they just met. And girls who won't fvck strangers they just met. No amount of frame control is gonna make the later do so. And did the former, it's not necessary. Because you don't need to make a convincing argument that they should sleep with you ASAP for xyz reasons, because they will if they want to (from you being your fun, laid back, and sexy self. Knowing this allows you to be present in the moment with her. Rather than trying to recall your routines...worried about your body language etc).

And those reasons were:

No easy access to high value guys in their social circle (at the time I met them, their social circles were small. Filled with other girls (around or below their looks level) and gays/loser (beta) guys. No high value guys)
And ****ty/repressed childhood.

This is what I've found present in all the girls I've fvcked from my years doing cold approach. In and outside clubs. Think most if not all, if they took the time to think about it, would agree.
 

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the article explains that women in the social circle game, most women... never going to be good because they have the skills and natural ability and desire to social climb. they always gonna do that and it always ends the same way. basically the red pill description of all women.

the suggested way around it is cold calling, I mean cold approaching because will get non-social circle climbers. almost no other way to get those ones like the normal and easier way it to get from the social circle. this rings true to me as social circles were always my normal way in the past and everything this article tells is true about that. perhaps the 6-hour sex this guy tells is a bit of BS or just trying to make a point.

the girls this guy and the expert he is referencing tell that we will never end up with the winner (if our idea of a winner is the same) without cold calling because the social circle women are all busy king hopping. means either be a king or cold call. well, anyone that is a king or has the built-in mind to be a king is not in this forum, mutually exclusive. not an insult, just something that would not happen.

the social circle will get women all day long, crappy women with lots of drama... but lots of women if that's the end game and sharing is not an issue for you.

my interest in this article is I had never thought about cold calling is the only way to get a woman that is not hunting for the king.

the article is a long read..

what else is wrong with what this guy is telling? I agree with @stringpuller that the 6 hours is suspect and either a lie or an exaggeration.
 

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The article shed some light on the girls you will sleep with from cold approach.

Before this it was always: attracted and sexually available.

But this didn't explain why there were girls who were attracted to and were sexually available (no boyfriend/husband) to the PUA, yet the PUA wasn't able to fvck her.

Until know the 2 most common reasons for this from the two camps were

Red Pillers: she was a time waster. She wasn't actually attracted (them trying to gaslight the PUA into ignoring his instincts that told him she was attracted to him).

PUAs: Anti-Slut Defense (ASD). You didn't frame it so that she would feel good about letting you fvck her ASAP (there are girls who will fvck strangers they just met. And girls who won't fvck strangers they just met. No amount of frame control is gonna make the later do so. And did the former, it's not necessary. Because you don't need to make a convincing argument that they should sleep with you ASAP for xyz reasons, because they will if they want to (from you being your fun, laid back, and sexy self. Knowing this allows you to be present in the moment with her. Rather than trying to recall your routines...worried about your body language etc).

And those reasons were:

No easy access to high value guys in their social circle (at the time I met them, their social circles were small. Filled with other girls (around or below their looks level) and gays/loser (beta) guys. No high value guys)
And ****ty/repressed childhood.

This is what I've found present in all the girls I've fvcked from my years doing cold approach. In and outside clubs. Think most if not all, if they took the time to think about it, would agree.
nice, write-up.
 

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>> I ****ed her for almost an entire night, somewhere close to six hours straight—one of the greatest sexual experiences of my life

I interpreted that to mean he fukked her off and on for six hours straight, which is believable. One of my ex's and I were in bed for approx 7 hours early in our relationship and we fukked off and on that entire time, like maybe 8-9 times, we were both in our early 20s at the time. It was a record for both of us and personally, I haven't broken that record, don't know if he has.
yep, agree. or go for a swim and come back or anything. so that's not really a data point to through the thing out about. the rest of the stuff seems right on.
 

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If he's smoking ice then it's entirely possible. Ice is pretty popular these days too.
I don't know ice, I know shabu but keep away and force any others that would like to be around me to keep it away. can get shot on-site for even being suspect with it. I did have associates into coke when I was younger. 6 hours could be. so not a reason to throughout the info in the article.
 

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Be the best version of yourself
that's good advice in general, but in some cases, we learn that change is needed. that's what makes men be men is the ability to change up and go against the tide if it is needed. women can only be the best of what they are.

not cutting the point, adding to it.
 

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Yea yea maybe I get that. The guys that must throw in ego lifts in there message need to be filtered. Why not "we had great sex that night"
His theory might have something to it but the guy is a tool.
ideas that are helpful often come from ppl we don't approve of. what else did you notice that the guy tells that is just wrong?
 
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