Female acquaintance goes full on hypergamy infront of me........

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girl I know has had a job promotion at JCB, shes recently purchased a Mercedes A class, nothing mega but still tidy...

why am I telling you this?

her chap is a mechanic, nice beta guy. she now out earns him & has a better car

Her whole aura towards him has literally flipped like a sociopath in 30 days. she adored him a month ago(so to speak)

In the cafe this morning, she told me "shes independent now and earns the most money in the house", the slightest thing he does she threatens him to leave.

get this as well, shes re activated her social media this week hmmmmmmm.....(Dating app)

She never spoke in this combative way a month ago, women are literally controlled by their DNA

the Manosphere advice once again unravels infront of me......
 

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Advice from the old lady:

It’s less to do with him and everything to do with her inflated sense of self worth. It’s not hypergamy per se. It’s the fact that she’s never had money or status. People who get some success and status tend (particularly if they are not from a moneyed background or family) to think the additional money makes them somehow better than others who don’t have as much means.

That’s false obviously. She is on her high horse at the moment. His only hope for keeping her is to require compliance from her. If he doesn’t he will lose her.

I out earn my guy and drive a much much nicer car. I have a higher net worth. Big deal. He didn’t know any of that when he met me, he just thought I was hot & he number closed me and asked me out the next day. He has never acted inferior about the difference in our financial status; and he makes 6 figures in a white collar profession. But I grew up around money and have made my own for decades. It’s great but it doesn’t change who I am.

She has new money pretentiousness and suddenly thinks her shjt doesn’t stink. Six months after she runs him off she will be wanting him back. Once she realizes cars and pretense are not what attracts men.
 

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Feminine Imperative mandates to never admit to the existence of Hypergamy or Dualistic Sexual Strategy. Knowledge of them greatly decreases a female's manipulation abilities.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

It’s less to do with him and everything to do with her inflated sense of self worth. It’s not hypergamy per se. It’s the fact that she’s never had money or status. People who get some success and status tend (particularly if they are not from a moneyed background or family) to think the additional money makes them somehow better than others who don’t have as much means.

That’s false obviously. She is on her high horse at the moment. His only hope for keeping her is to require compliance from her. If he doesn’t he will lose her.

I out earn my guy and drive a much much nicer car. I have a higher net worth. Big deal. He didn’t know any of that when he met me, he just thought I was hot & he number closed me and asked me out the next day. He has never acted inferior about the difference in our financial status; and he makes 6 figures in a white collar profession. But I grew up around money and have made my own for decades. It’s great but it doesn’t change who I am.

She has new money pretentiousness and suddenly thinks her shjt doesn’t stink. Six months after she runs him off she will be wanting him back. Once she realizes cars and pretense are not what attracts men.
You’ve also noted in previous posts that you’re significantly older than your guy. Maybe I’m wrong in your case but some men are attracted to maternal partners. Most men do not like being out-earned by their ladies. Most ladies do not like out-earning their men.

In your case, I’ll also assume you both earn 6-figure incomes so the disparity in status is not that great. Someone earning $300k with their partner earning $500K puts them both in a high-earner tax bracket. Neither is the breadwinner or financially dependent on the other. This would be different if the male earned $70K from a blue collar job, and his lady earning $300K in a white collar job. That’s a marked disparity in social status. Most women won’t remain in that arrangement.

Women are attracted to higher status, especially for nesting mates. They are turned off by lower status men. It’s sad that the turn of events changed the dynamic of this relationship so suddenly and dramatically, but this guy needs to leave her ASAP and preserve his dignity.
 

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But I grew up around money and have made my own for decades. It’s great but it doesn’t change who I am.

She has new money pretentiousness and suddenly thinks her shjt doesn’t stink. Six months after she runs him off she will be wanting him back. Once she realizes cars and pretense are not what attracts men
Money doesn't change people, it just reveals who they truly are. If you ever go to a poorer working class suburb you will see most women wearing brand name clothes to appear "rich" even though they live Paycheck to Paycheck.

People have this false idea that being "poor" makes someone humble but in reality it has more to do with upbringing and culture.
 

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You’ve also noted in previous posts that you’re significantly older than your guy. Maybe I’m wrong in your case but some men are attracted to maternal partners. Most men do not like being out-earned by their ladies. Most ladies do not like out-earning their men.

In your case, I’ll also assume you both earn 6-figure incomes so the disparity in status is not that great. Someone earning $300k with their partner earning $500K puts them both in a high-earner tax bracket. Neither is the breadwinner or financially dependent on the other. This would be different if the male earned $70K from a blue collar job, and his lady earning $300K in a white collar job. That’s a marked disparity in social status. Most women won’t remain in that arrangement.

Women are attracted to higher status, especially for nesting mates. They are turned off by lower status men. It’s sad that the turn of events changed the dynamic of this relationship so suddenly and dramatically, but this guy needs to leave her ASAP and preserve his dignity.
The same phenomena happens with some men who suddenly think they are better than everyone too based on what they drive or have. So it’s not a chick thing.

As for me? People assume I am younger than my guy when we are out and about. We often do not correct them, which is pretty funny. My family tends to retain a youthful look into advanced age so really that’s as much fortunate genetics, although I do take good care of myself and never got overexposed to sun, never smoked, never gained weight, and have always gotten enough sleep.

He’s not looking for a “maternal partner”. That’s really funny. He wants sexy and hot but elegant. He also wants emotionally stable and loyal, which I am. And we both make 6 figures and both come from affluent families. So no it’s not like I’m a millionaire and he’s a waiter. That would be ridiculous. I am 8 years older than him. Which is kinda funny too.

You sound like you are shaming me for seeing a younger man ;) Since when was an 8 year difference a big deal? It isn’t if it’s the woman being younger…but if I have the pull to garner a somewhat younger man then something is wrong with him? Forgive me while I die laughing. You sound like an old lady shaming dudes her age for dating much younger. It’s just funny.

He has dated lots of hot women. Lots. Most of them were nuts.

He is talented at what he does both professionally and as a semi pro athlete. He is stylish and attractive. I put less stock in financial resources because I have my own. He leads the relationship and I respect him, trust me.
 
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It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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The same phenomena happens with some men who suddenly think they are better than everyone too based on what they drive or have. So it’s not a chick thing.
Basing self worth on material possessions is not just a chick thing, no, but disparities in social/financial status being a turn on, or off, in a partner is absolutely and pretty much solely a chick thing. In this instance, the sudden increase in her earning abilities has caused her to look down upon her once-equal partner -- and because she thinks she is better than he is, she is now less attracted to him. Unless she loses her job and gets knocked back down to size, I doubt she'll redeem herself there.

So no it’s not like I’m a millionaire and he’s a waiter. That would be ridiculous.
Straight from the horse's mouth then.

You sound like you are shaming me for seeing a younger man ;) Since when was an 8 year difference a big deal? It isn’t if it’s the woman being younger…but if I have the pull to garner a somewhat younger man then something is wrong with him? Forgive me while I die laughing. You sound like an old lady shaming dudes her age for dating much younger. It’s just funny.
I'm not shaming you about the age difference -- maybe you're a little defensive about it, which is understandable, because I'm sure your relationship functions in the face of what is probably an annoying taboo to you, maybe a taboo that's threatened the relationship at times.

I also won't elaborate on how, and why, older men dating younger women is not analogous to older women dating younger men. But it's simply not. Not socially or biologically. I'm not judging you, I'm simply noting that difference. I don't know what you look like, I'll take your word that you've got a cougar thing going -- but in order for most men to defy their social and biological conditioning to mate and nest with an older woman, they have to have atypical -- or maternal -- mating preferences. Not wrong, but atypical. Women who date much older men face the same stigma of having paternal preferences in their mates ("daddy issues" etc.).

The income disparity in your case is not marked enough to separate status, as it is in the OP's case, and I guessed that it was a facet your relationship's dynamic -- older, more experienced partner with a younger, more energetic partner. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

It’s less to do with him and everything to do with her inflated sense of self worth. It’s not hypergamy per se. It’s the fact that she’s never had money or status. People who get some success and status tend (particularly if they are not from a moneyed background or family) to think the additional money makes them somehow better than others who don’t have as much means.

That’s false obviously. She is on her high horse at the moment. His only hope for keeping her is to require compliance from her. If he doesn’t he will lose her.

I out earn my guy and drive a much much nicer car. I have a higher net worth. Big deal. He didn’t know any of that when he met me, he just thought I was hot & he number closed me and asked me out the next day. He has never acted inferior about the difference in our financial status; and he makes 6 figures in a white collar profession. But I grew up around money and have made my own for decades. It’s great but it doesn’t change who I am.

She has new money pretentiousness and suddenly thinks her shjt doesn’t stink. Six months after she runs him off she will be wanting him back. Once she realizes cars and pretense are not what attracts men.
No,this isn’t going to happen.She isn’t going to turn around in a few months and realize that it’s not all about cars and money.If she happens to have never had money?That only makes it more certain.What is going to happen is that she’s going to lose respect for him,because in her eyes she’s going to feel above him,which is the death knell of many a relationship.A woman cannot love a man she has no respect for.Most women would also rather slash their wrists than admit they were wrong.She will leave him and look for “better.”Because she’s a woman,she’ll probably find a man she believes fits the description.Unless something drastic happens,this relationship is on the rocks already,because the natural male-female balance has been upset.He is better off ending it before it is ended for him.I have seen this movie before.
 

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Basing self worth on material possessions is not just a chick thing, no, but disparities in social/financial status being a turn on, or off, in a partner is absolutely and pretty much solely a chick thing. In this instance, the sudden increase in her earning abilities has caused her to look down upon her once-equal partner -- and because she thinks she is better than he is, she is now less attracted to him. Unless she loses her job and gets knocked back down to size, I doubt she'll redeem herself there.


Straight from the horse's mouth then.


I'm not shaming you about the age difference -- maybe you're a little defensive about it, which is understandable, because I'm sure your relationship functions in the face of what is probably an annoying taboo to you, maybe a taboo that's threatened the relationship at times.

I also won't elaborate on how, and why, older men dating younger women is not analogous to older women dating younger men. But it's simply not. Not socially or biologically. I'm not judging you, I'm simply noting that difference. I don't know what you look like, I'll take your word that you've got a cougar thing going -- but in order for most men to defy their social and biological conditioning to mate and nest with an older woman, they have to have atypical -- or maternal -- mating preferences. Not wrong, but atypical. Women who date much older men face the same stigma of having paternal preferences in their mates ("daddy issues" etc.).

The income disparity in your case is not marked enough to separate status, as it is in the OP's case, and I guessed that it was a facet your relationship's dynamic -- older, more experienced partner with a younger, more energetic partner. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
It’s funny because I’m the more energetic partner. He laughs about this all the time. And he’s the athlete :)

No way I’m going to be anybody’s “sugar mama” so no I won’t date someone in a lesser socioeconomic tier. Such a man cannot lead me anyway. Not a chance. So no attraction is possible because I require leadership as well as desire…

Age is a number. My own grandmother was happily married and widowed twice, first to her high school love who died from industrial exposure (he was an independent oil man) in his early 40s…she was alone for 18 years then in her 60s married a second time & she was 8 years older than him. He was a widower who had every single woman in town chasing him…but he chose my grandmother. She outlived him too. She lost him at age 91 when he was 83. She lived to be 97. And her hair never grayed. A little salt. That’s it. They were happily married 33 years. So it’s a dynamic I’ve observed in my own family. We never really realized she was older than him. He was the husband & undisputed leader of that marriage. She was a great wife and a stunningly beautiful woman. They adored one another.

One of my sisters married a guy 14 years older, the other two married men their own age. I have a cousin who is partnered with a man 30 years older…and she does NOT have daddy issues she was very close to her father like I was to mine.

Relationships are what the two people in the relationship decide. What my BF appreciates about me is my patience & stability combined with how I look physically. But I’m still a chick & still irrational at times. He reigns that in as he leads the interaction. It’s not a cougar situation at all. But I can understand your desire to try and label things. People assume I’m 5 to 10 years younger than him, just due to how I look. And he’s a very handsome youthful looking man.

My avatar is me. I’m 50 in that photo. It is an unretouched unfiltered photo. I look the same now. I have modeled here & there in the past, just wasn’t tall enough to do it seriously (and was pre-med anyway), lol. That’s my real hair, no extensions. I’ve had women run their hands under my hairline before because they didn’t believe me (which is weird). I’ve had no “work” done. Just good genes combined with healthy habits.

So I’m an outlier physically. We don’t function as an older/younger couple. We function as a match, physically and mentally. He leads and I appreciate his leadership.

For OP’s thread I agree it’s bad news most likely for the husband. If he isn’t masculine enough to check her ego, and she thinks she’s better than him? Not good.

But it’s really not hypergamy. It’s loss of respect for him relative to her. Hypergamy would be her seeking a more status partner than her. If she picked a new guy at her same level that isn’t hypergamous. It’s dropping someone she already feels is “less than”.

Hypergamy is a waitress getting with a pro athlete or a secretary with a CEO. This isn’t that in my view. She has lost respect, no question, which may not be fair to him but it’s the tip of the iceberg I assure you or she wouldn’t feel as she does.
 

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Ironically i dont think hes done anything wrong, purely her better job offer has completely changed her aura.

it was near on sociopathic
if a woman works outside the home and is a 5+ the man must excel above the men she works with. the excel can be in different ways, not only money.

depending on the details she is now promoted and working closely with higher status men who by definition are going to be a little ruthless.

it's over for him with this one unless he immediately changes up.

In the old days, Dr. Love told that the only thing that mattered is her interest level. Her interest level is less now because the comparisons are better.
 

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I out earn my guy and drive a much much nicer car. I have a higher net worth. Big deal. He didn’t know any of that when he met me, he just thought I was hot & he number closed me and asked me out the next day. He has never acted inferior about the difference in our financial status; and he makes 6 figures in a white collar profession. But I grew up around money and have made my own for decades. It’s great but it doesn’t change who I am.
You just cant help yourself can you?
 

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My avatar is me. I’m 50 in that photo. It is an unretouched unfiltered photo. I look the same now. I have modeled here & there in the past, just wasn’t tall enough to do it seriously (and was pre-med anyway), lol. That’s my real hair, no extensions. I’ve had women run their hands under my hairline before because they didn’t believe me (which is weird). I’ve had no “work” done. Just good genes combined with healthy habits.
But of course. Sigh!
 

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I would estimate he earns around 18 UK thousand, being an employed mechanic.

I know for a fact she was on 16k before and shes on 28k now. this a big difference in the welfare area of the UK. @BeExcellent as you can appreciate.

Also, as she was sitting with me, she showed me the all the men inboxing her just that morning......It was unreal, and i cant believe the amount sending d*ck pics......Men are dumb as hell still.

fortunately they were all quite simpy, and they have no DM skills. but it still inflates her ego you can tell.

Derb I fcking love your post bro. If you had tits Id marry you
Do biitch tits count?
once i get these Triple A cups out, Demi Rose best go home :rofl:
 

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I would estimate he earns around 18 UK thousand, being an employed mechanic.

I know for a fact she was on 16k before and shes on 28k now. this a big difference in the welfare area of the UK. @BeExcellent as you can appreciate.

Also, as she was sitting with me, she showed me the all the men inboxing her just that morning......It was unreal, and i cant believe the amount sending d*ck pics......Men are dumb as hell still.

fortunately they were all quite simpy, and they have no DM skills. but it still inflates her ego you can tell.




once i get these Triple A cups out, Demi Rose best go home :rofl:
28k net or gross?

I assume you talk about annual income.
 

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I would estimate he earns around 18 UK thousand, being an employed mechanic.

I know for a fact she was on 16k before and shes on 28k now. this a big difference in the welfare area of the UK. @BeExcellent as you can appreciate.

Also, as she was sitting with me, she showed me the all the men inboxing her just that morning......It was unreal, and i cant believe the amount sending d*ck pics......Men are dumb as hell still.

fortunately they were all quite simpy, and they have no DM skills. but it still inflates her ego you can tell.




once i get these Triple A cups out, Demi Rose best go home :rofl:
Wait— £28K per year? That’s a little under $40K per year in the US. No one making $40K per year thinks it’s time to buy a Mercedes, not even a C class.
 

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I won’t date someone in a lesser socioeconomic tier. Such a man cannot lead me anyway. Not a chance. So no attraction is possible because I require leadership as well as desire…
This is the crux of the matter here. This woman has not yet pursued hypergamy, but her loss of respect — and thus attraction — is what all women feel toward a lower-tier male.
 
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