Is dating and relationships for suckers?

[BadBoy89]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible, isn’t a man going on any type of “date“ a suckers bet? The “getting to know you”, the “talking about common interests, family” is when a woman is looking for a long term beta provider, not a man who gets her juices flowing.

Not to be too crude or unrealistic, but if the woman Is not a virgin, any type of “relationship talk” she brings up with the man, he has shown her he wants to be committed family man and not sexy alpha stud she dreams about.

Thoughts?

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible, isn’t a man going on any type of “date“ a suckers bet? The “getting to know you”, the “talking about common interests, family” is when a woman is looking for a long term beta provider, not a man who gets her juices flowing.

Not to be too crude or unrealistic, but if the woman Is not a virgin, any type of “relationship talk” she brings up with the man, he has shown her he wants to be committed family man and not sexy alpha stud she dreams about.

Thoughts?

You are overthinking this.

If you dont want a relationship, stick to pump and dump.

There is nothing beta about wanting a family or a LTR.

If the woman in question is looking for a beta provider, she will most likely not try and get Chad for a LTR.

If the woman sees you as beta provider at any point, you are doing it wrong.

If you are afraid that her juices stop flowing over you once you commit to her, you are insecure and doing something wrong.

As long as you stick to your frame and make your expectations about LTR/family clear to the woman from the start, there shouldnt be any misinterpretations on her side.

 

[bluepilled]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible, isn’t a man going on any type of “date“ a suckers bet? The “getting to know you”, the “talking about common interests, family” is when a woman is looking for a long term beta provider, not a man who gets her juices flowing.

Not to be too crude or unrealistic, but if the woman Is not a virgin, any type of “relationship talk” she brings up with the man, he has shown her he wants to be committed family man and not sexy alpha stud she dreams about.

Thoughts?

Has a woman ever perceived you as an alpha?

 

[derby1]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible,

women have babies by normal guys, and if anything, total dossers so they can secure the welfare.

Anything but Alpha males, this is a fallacy

 

[derby1]

Patrice O neal gave the trick away 20 years ago, "always make sure she perceive herself as a 4 and you an 8, YOURE BETTER THAN HER"

 

[Glassguy]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible

Most of the time the alpha male has the best genes compared to a beta male. So I am not really sure what you mean.

To be honest, most women WANT to have kids with the alpha male, but the alpha male wont be tied down and denies the request.

There is a big misunderstanding on this forum that beta males make the best providers for women and that is just false...- most of your alpha males would make better providers (financially) than beta males. Women SETTLE for the beta males because the alpha males will not let a woman settle him down. In all actuality, beta males are worse than alpha males in every single category that is attractive to women.

Alpha males are more focused, driven and many times much more successful (status and money) than beta males. The beta males are more easily controlled and THAT is what works in a woman's favor in a LTR/Marriage/Family atmosphere.

Prime example- PGA professional golfers. On TV they are nice, easy going....but make no mistake about it......99% of them are alpha males. This is why you see them not get married until they are well into their 30s (generally) or older. They are too busy on their purpose and living life. Women chasing them is just a bonus.

I've had the luxury of spending a little time around high profile PGA golfers as a good friend of mine is in the business and works with them on a regular basis. I would put them up there with NBA and NFL players on how alpha they really are when they are living their lives.

 

[BadBoy89]

There is nothing beta about wanting a family or a LTR.

If the woman in question is looking for a beta provider, she will most likely not try and get Chad for a LTR.

Arent those 2 terms contradictory? If a man wants a LTR, he is not beta. If a woman wants a LTR, she will look for a beta.

If a man wants to legally commit and have sex with one woman forever and forever, and he cannot have sex with any other girl forever, that is not beta?

Not talking “being” with someone forever. I’m talking more having sex with ONE woman, when she well into her 30s and 40s, FOREVER. I’m not Brad Pitt, but I don’t think I could do it.

 

[bat soup]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible, isn’t a man going on any type of “date“ a suckers bet? The “getting to know you”, the “talking about common interests, family” is when a woman is looking for a long term beta provider, not a man who gets her juices flowing.

Not to be too crude or unrealistic, but if the woman Is not a virgin, any type of “relationship talk” she brings up with the man, he has shown her he wants to be committed family man and not sexy alpha stud she dreams about.

Thoughts?

It's a waste of time "getting to know" a woman that is not going to suck your diKK.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Since women only want to have sex with alpha men, and only want to have kids with men who have the best genes possible, isn’t a man going on any type of “date“ a suckers bet? The “getting to know you”, the “talking about common interests, family” is when a woman is looking for a long term beta provider, not a man who gets her juices flowing.

Not to be too crude or unrealistic, but if the woman Is not a virgin, any type of “relationship talk” she brings up with the man, he has shown her he wants to be committed family man and not sexy alpha stud she dreams about.

Thoughts?

It's black pilled perspective. Sadly, yes. Unless you are above average, 7/8 + dudes are going to struggle. Shrek with Game is wack. This is why red pill is disingenuous more often than not. Most of the YouTube red pill are married geeks, no receipts, can't pull or approach but got some opinion plus rubbish program to shill. Blogger defense when called put but quick to take shots at everyone else. More annoying that the vast majority all parrot the same guy who hasn't been a agent in the field in what three decades? Again buy my ebook or rubbish program. No receipts.

You got Tusk and Troy going out. Live. Infield. They are the outliers. If you watch roast vids most guys have absolutely no reason to be shilling rubbish programs with busted wives or gfs.

Op, play the hand you are dealt. If you have game, get girls but more importantly get a life. Game is sport. My D won't sick itself. Still women are a dime a dozen. Even your most trad girl is getting ran through not barefoot and pregnant. Dating and marriage today is cucked. Especially in the west. The alternative being the ride or die girl all in at top form smv 18-23. Not rump roast after the wall. What red pill marry more often than not but got some cap program you can buy.

 

[Machine10033]

Do whatever floats your boat. I don’t know your situation but if your a good looking dude, with game and resources you can keep a relationship.... as long as you keep your frame. You could be Brad Pitt in his prime... and lose your sH&t... and still lose your girl.

My philosophy when I’m in a relationship is I have a girl I enjoy spending some time with...that keeps me company.... while I pursue a good time. I can still have that good time on my own... but I chose to include her in it. I keep it simple...

Remember even if your an alpha... there is probably bigger alphas out there... so at any moment a bigger... badder alpha can come and steal your girl. Just have fun and if you enjoy seeing the girl and hanging out with her keep at it. You don’t even need to call it a relationship.

 

[captain55]

Listen to me man. A good looking 6’0 man with money is going to **** more hot women than a good looking 6’0 broke man. Women are sexually attracted to guys with money instinctively because it shows he can acquire resources. Somewhere along the way some guys that don’t get any tail came up with this beta provider **** and now guys are convinced if they spend more than $20 on a date they are a simp. It’s complete utter bull****. Your sexual market value is a combination of looks/status/physique/game/and wait for it....money.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Arent those 2 terms contradictory? If a man wants a LTR, he is not beta. If a woman wants a LTR, she will look for a beta.

If a man wants to legally commit and have sex with one woman forever and forever, and he cannot have sex with any other girl forever, that is not beta?

Not talking “being” with someone forever. I’m talking more having sex with ONE woman, when she well into her 30s and 40s, FOREVER. I’m not Brad Pitt, but I don’t think I could do it.

*Nope thats not what i said, ...... most women will settle for the beta provider because they cant bring the high value man to commit. That doesnt mean they wouldnt prefer a high value man committing to them, they just face reality and settle for what they can get.

*If you are alpha enough to get an attractive, submissive, feminine and sane girl thats willing to have your children and bang you whenever you want .... mission accomplished and you can focus on your "mission" in life. Nothing beta with that.

*I guess that depends..... for me, every pvssy gets "old" after i had it a few months, so one might as well find his peace in knowing that the unknown will allways be teasing. If it is just for the sake of something "different" from time to time, use a sexworker or be smart at cheating.

 

[Dash Riprock]

It all depends what your goals are. If you want a family and a wife, and there's NOTHING beta about it, go for it. Just be selective on who you choose to marry.

If you want ot stay single the rest of your life, DO IT. There are plenty of clueless beta guys doing this so it's neither alpha or beta.

The KEY is to not live your life defined by someone else's rules or antiquated social norms that were commonplace 50 years ago.

Live your life on YOUR terms, whatever you want.

True ALPHAS live life on their own terms, set goals throughout their entire lifetime, and have the drive and purpose and IDGAF attitude to pursue them, and constantly strive for improve in all facets of their life. They see themselves as never "complete' and are ongoing projects.

 

[Paper Crane]

i go on dates with girls who got good value and potential... i dnt go on dates with girls who i know are all about sex and vanity.. i jsut take them str8 to where the magic happens

 

[SW15]

For most men, the answer is no. In the absence of relationships, most men do not get sex.

 

[IKO69]

No, because even "alphas" date and have relationships.

A sucker is someone who settles for a low quality woman. We all have known them, guys who are desperate and will link up with anything with a vagina.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

The biggest suckers in the dating game are young women because they believe the attention will last... A dude can make money back but time is gone forever.

 

[tightsocks]

The biggest suckers in the dating game are young women because they believe the attention will last... A dude can make money back but time is gone forever.

Damn. Crucial point of view. Never thought of it like that.

Wouldn't a woman want to lock down a male at the height of their attraction / attention? I don't understand why they would be promiscuous.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I enjoy dating and being in a relationship.