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One thing I've noticed a lot on these kinds of forums is that men dedicate years of their lives to getting pusssy, their self-image as a successful man is based on their ability to get pusssy and the number of women they've slept with, and yet they write posts saying that women should not be having sex until marriage or should be having as little sex as possible.

You can't expect a more conservative society to affect everyone else except you. I see a lot of hypocrisy where men that have had a lot of sex themselves are trying to promote conservative values for other people.

Who are you going to have sex with, then, if you don't want women to have sex? If women are having less sex, then so are you.

Or is that where the trannies come in?
 

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I always thought of it as two different perspectives. On the one hand you had people preaching patriarchy and the other it was all about how many women they can rack up.

As soon as someone has a problem that is looked at as a general problem, the answer is always that the society is too matriarchal.
 

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One thing I've noticed a lot on these kinds of forums is that men dedicate years of their lives to getting pusssy, their self-image as a successful man is based on their ability to get pusssy and the number of women they've slept with, and yet they write posts saying that women should not be having sex until marriage or should be having as little sex as possible.

You can't expect a more conservative society to affect everyone else except you. I see a lot of hypocrisy where men that have had a lot of sex themselves are trying to promote conservative values for other people.

Who are you going to have sex with, then, if you don't want women to have sex? If women are having less sex, then so are you.

Is that where the trannies come in?
I think this issue is like having kids: the people who would make the worst parents are also the least likely to have any self-reflection or care about it. Likewise, it takes a lack of self-reflection and/or morality in order to be an unforgiving hypocrite in the first place, so the fact that one thing goes hand in hand with another shouldnt be a surprise.
 
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I think this issue is like having kids: the people who would make the worst parents are also the least likely to have any self-reflection about it. Likewise, it takes a lack of self-reflection and/or morality in order to be a hypocrite in the first place, so the fact that one thing goes hand in hand with another shouldnt be a surprise.
I've lived in both liberal western countries and in very conservative ones. For all the problems, I much rather have the freedom to choose my own path in life that you have in a liberal country.

I don't think the solution is to go backwards. The past is not all rainbows and unicorns for men or for women. Having other people, such as your family, continuously watching over you and dictating your personal life is not something to aspire to.
 

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I've lived in both liberal western countries and in very conservative ones. For all the problems, I much rather have the freedom to choose my own path in life that you have in a liberal country.

I don't think the solution is to go backwards. The past is not all rainbows and unicorns for men or for women. Having other people, such as your family, continuously watching over you and dictating your personal life is not something to aspire to.
I agree, but the people who advocate for those kinds of "solutions" dont think theyll be on the receiving end of them, and that's the key. Their infidelity and casual sex is not supposed to count, only that of their intended targets. They will then project and hamster wheel how those things are just "natural" for them and thus it's right of them to behave that way, like samspade said.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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One thing I've noticed a lot on these kinds of forums is that men dedicate years of their lives to getting pusssy, their self-image as a successful man is based on their ability to get pusssy and the number of women they've slept with, and yet they write posts saying that women should not be having sex until marriage or should be having as little sex as possible.

You can't expect a more conservative society to affect everyone else except you. I see a lot of hypocrisy where men that have had a lot of sex themselves are trying to promote conservative values for other people.

Who are you going to have sex with, then, if you don't want women to have sex? If women are having less sex, then so are you.

Or is that where the trannies come in?
Yeah that's why I hate YouTube channels like Alpha male secrets and other stupid guys who don't just talk about attracting women, they talk about how many women they've personally slept with and then throw in misogynistic bullsh1t about how women shouldn't be free or even have the right to vote and all these guys agree with them like sheep it's some of the most hypocritical, stupid sh1t I've seen in my life. Theyre too dumb to understand that feminism is actually the reason they're able to be manwh0res with all these chicks lol and if we lived in a patriarchy they'd probably be married to na average looking wife with kids living a boring life working in a factory
 

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Yeah that's why I hate YouTube channels like Alpha male secrets and other stupid guys who don't just talk about attracting women, they talk about how many women they've personally slept with and then throw in misogynistic bullsh1t about how women shouldn't be free or even have the right to vote and all these guys agree with them like sheep it's some of the most hypocritical, stupid sh1t I've seen in my life. Theyre too dumb to understand that feminism is actually the reason they're able to be manwh0res with all these chicks lol and if we lived in a patriarchy they'd probably be married to na average looking wife with kids living a boring life working in a factory
I dont think it's because theyre stupid, rather because they themselves are higher on the cluster B spectrum. They then attract the most neurotic and naive men as the most devoted audience, much like how narcissistic leaders function in politics.
 
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Yeah that's why I hate YouTube channels like Alpha male secrets and other stupid guys who don't just talk about attracting women, they talk about how many women they've personally slept with and then throw in misogynistic bullsh1t about how women shouldn't be free or even have the right to vote and all these guys agree with them like sheep it's some of the most hypocritical, stupid sh1t I've seen in my life. Theyre too dumb to understand that feminism is actually the reason they're able to be manwh0res with all these chicks lol and if we lived in a patriarchy they'd probably be married to na average looking wife with kids living a boring life working in a factory
Yeah, well actually if women are not free then none of us are.

If families keep their daughters locked up at home with the mother, father, brother etc. watching over them 24/7, guys like AMS would not get the chance to say one word to a girl.
 

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Yeah, well actually if women are not free then none of us are.

If families keep their daughters locked up at home with the mother, father, brother etc. watching over them 24/7, guys like AMS would not get the chance to say one word to a girl.
Yeah exactly
 

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Actions are not a life sentence, people make mistakes and the ones that are caught get labelled/punished, but for every crime there is a consequence and when you are exposed to that consequence yourself, you begin to see the world for what it is, not necessarily what you thought it was.

So sure, you might have a high body count and through that experience you might come to understand these types are not people you want to spend a portion of your life with.

This quote doesn't quite fit unless you really think about it but "A life is all the things you do while waiting for moments that never come" a lot of the time, you have to change up in order to get to the place you want to be, if not there already.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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The answer is that men are far more helpful to other men. We want to see our male peers have improvements, and we are aware that ****ing every girl we see will have consequences. The thing is, feminism kinda destroyed any chance of reversing the wheel by ourselves, and there are men with more power than us who continue to let this thrive. So the best action for us is to just keep taking advantage of non moral women and showing men who do not get sex how to improve their lives to get women themselves. Eventually in some foreseeable future, we would have enough capable men to take back the reins of society and return us to the good days of connected families and non promiscuous men and women.

You have to realize that even in the world where families were strong, men like us would still exist to be ****ing the occasional bored wife behind her husband's back, or the widow who has no one to fill that void inside her. But we rather the majority of society was not like us for the good of everyone. Like it was said before, it's holding two different opinions that do not conflict with each other. A conservative man can still **** a lot of women, because being conservative doesn't mean ****ing just one woman. That's some stereotypical description likely from some city dweller who sees conservatives as just christian families. Is old Joe who lives independently while occasionally ****ing women he comes across on his travels or work path not considered conservative cause he doesn't commit to a woman?

There is nothing contradicting about it. We want women to be better because that in turn makes families better, which in turn produces better future men and women. Which means better relationship quality, even for us. Cause eventually Daddy's little girl becomes 18, and due to having a strong family, she will have far less mental issues, resulting in looking healthier, being prettier, and having less of an attitude.
 

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yet they write posts saying that women should not be having sex until marriage or should be having as little sex as possible.
I don’t think men care about that. I mean the girl can’t be a Hooker, but I don’t get the feeling men are preaching girls should be saints and virgins while men should sleep with everything in sight.

I think men care about: no kids, no divorces, and be fertile. Generally men will marry a girl who has been here and there than a girl who has had sex with one man yet has been divorced and has a child.
 

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Most Men want good women, but the only way to get it is a social circle early on. 99% of men here never had a good social circle that gives them access to women.

That's why we learnt game, we went on OLD or did cold approach. How many men do you know who met a conservative virgin woman through cold approach or OLD?

I talked about LTR/Marriage with these women and they would always find that a turn off early on.
 

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One has to agree to a certain degree.

Granted, western women are generally in hoe-mode and thats not the fault of DJ´s. If you dont fvck them, somebody will.

BUT, the demands some guys here are dishing out are just ridiculous. These guys would fvck 50 different women a year, not wanting to commit, yet asking where the "the good woman for LTR have gone".

"Looking for virgin, yet has to fvck on date 1-3, not older then 25, but beautiful (at least 8), well in shape, that has been saving up her pyssy just for me all these years, yet is a dirty biatch in bed(only), doing ALL the things!"

Everything else is "trash", "damaged", "undatable", "only for pump & dump".
 

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One has to agree to a certain degree.

Granted, western women are generally in hoe-mode and thats not the fault of DJ´s. If you dont fvck them, somebody will.

BUT, the demands some guys here are dishing out are just ridiculous. These guys would fvck 50 different women a year, not wanting to commit, yet asking where the "the good woman for LTR have gone".

"Looking for virgin, yet has to fvck on date 1-3, not older then 25, but beautiful (at least 8), well in shape, that has been saving up her pyssy just for me all these years, yet is a dirty biatch in bed(only), doing ALL the things!"

Everything else is "trash", "damaged", "undatable", "only for pump & dump".
Indeed. I agree there has to be a balance. Maybe considering the notch count with other red flags like history of cheating?
Because excluding based on notch count alone seems to be very feasible.
 
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