asian women vs white western women

[Young OG]

I'm white but I do better with Latinas and Asian women. I honestly can't stand the way white women act. When I approach them at clubs and bars, they are always the ones who give me harsh rejections. They are entitled and think they own the world. My current gf is Asian. She moved to the US in 2012 from the Philippines. My last gf was Mexican and was born here. But she was raised in a strict old school Mexican household. I would never settle down long term with a white woman. They more then likely will cheat and leave you. If you can get a Asian woman or Latina that weren't born here or that were raised in a traditional household then I would go with that over a white girl any day.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Hot, feminine, submissive white women aren't that easy to find in the states. At least not high quality ones.

Stop analyzing everything to death.

Enjoy life. Don't analyze it.

Yea even though the truth is that they are mostly very weak. But they are never forced to admit it because they can hide behind the law. This leaves them free to get 1,000,000 tattoos and dye their hair green.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

To be with Too tier Korean women you gotta be a part of the culture like the Korean Englishman youtube channel. It seems like the best looking women only speak korean and zero english. Being a foreign guy with fluent korean puts you at a massive advantage since your competition is virtually non existant

I've been to South Korea and Japan (I'm white from USA). This guys kidding himself if he thinks any white guy can just walk in and get every girl in the country. You think they've never seen a white guy before?

 

[Fruitbat]

If you want to use the jobs example then - Working for Goldman Sachs in New York City, or Goldman Sachs in Mogadishu is the same?

It's like as buying a real rolex, or a counterfeit chinese rolex. You can only lie to yourself for so long.

Goldman Sachs don’t have a branch in Mogadishu.

if this boils down to “you’re dating Asian becuase you’re weak and can’t compete” - fine, have it. You’re welcome to it.
I think myself and the rest of the lads here wouldn’t trade having a hotter, fitter, more conservative, less promiscuous and homely wife for a tiny bit of respect in a red pill PUA community.
We’re just happy with the sex, happier life and if that’s your point, then fine. You’re much more successful than us (apparently) and we’re a bunch of bottom feeding betas.

does that resolve this issue to your satisfaction sir? It seems to be the breadth of your argument.

 

[Fruitbat]

Dating Asian women and complaining about White women is classic racist incel school-shooter behavior.

It’s a slippery slope.

date Asian girl
Marry Asian girl
Murder a load of kids.

seem it too many times.

 

[Fruitbat]

it's the Elliot Rogers thing - the kids you have with an Asian woman tend to be identity-confused. Torn between traditional Asian culture, and slutty Western culture. It's a difficult place to be.




It's not about one-upmanship at all. If you're genuinely happy with Asian women then that's great. But from you and other guys here appear to be saying is that you go for Asian women out of necessity, because the women you really want don't want you. This doesn't inspire self-improvement, but it appears to inspire defeatism. The issue you guys describe about white women isn't some intrinsic problem that white women have - it's a cultural thing. I think you'll find women of all races, when immersed in western culture, behave the same way. Kim Kardashian, for example, isn't white. She's Armenian and that's a very traditional society from the Middle East.

The title of this thread is "Asian women versus White women" - so it's inviting debate. If hearing the other side of the debate upsets you then maybe you should question how happy you really are.

Another issue I see with targeting Asian women for LTR's is there's too much abundance. How on earth could you be satisfied being in a monogamous relationship with one? They all, roughly, look the same. And they are all available. How do you choose one?

they don’t look the same. Korean women look nothing like Indonesian, Chinese look nothing like Thai. That’s a common issue if you have no experience. My wife said when she came
here she couldn’t distinguish white from Pakistani.

she certainly now could not distinguish say, British from Dutch, or German but I could, mostly.

now, I can tell north from south Vietnamese.

I think this is getting to the truth here on why you hold your views. Considering you’re accusing others of racism, it’s certainly not showing that you have a particularly worldly experience.

You’re welcome to your opinion, I think you’re just the trademark RP/PUA narcissist who comes on threads to make themselves feel better by picking through what anyone says and uses whatever’s said to be anti social and critical.
Nobody is saying out of necessity. Everyone here has said it’s through choice. You’ve been saying it sub standard and pushing the view Asian women are lesser, whereas others have said that they are in many ways superior.

you’re welcome to your views but this ceased being an objective discussion of the merits of white and Asian women but it’s now essentially you finding reasons why men who choose Asian women are lesser and weaker. That isn’t the debate, if you hold those opinions, perhaps reserve them for a thread which discussed the character of men who choose Asian. Hence, continually going back to this tends towards gaslighting and being needlessly critical. I don’t think anyone has made suggestions on why you make the choices you do.

As for the culture/race dynamic, that I would assume was implicit. I would happily date a white woman raised in the conservative Asian culture. It’s very much a proxy for race, as nearly everyone within respective races fits the culture.

 

[metalwater]

How do you choose one?

Well you don't, they choose you. RP 101. haha..

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What is your point in this? Why try to humiliate a few men that have found a solution. The truth is that they took action and did something instead of just complaining. They actually did well. The rate of LTR failure for mixed White/Asian is less than white/white.

perhaps you want to teach that Asian women are also slutty in the deep down heart. so what, how is that worse than other races and many of the men know it already.

Are you telling them that they should lower their self-esteem because they have found success in this way? Or perhaps that they should stop it so that there are more for.... you....

I mean Jesus, we tell them...

- don't single moms
- don't Asians
- don't over 25

Telling everyone to try for the same few, no wonder those chicks are with a fat head and arrogant.

I get what your telling, and you explained it well. But why kick a man when he is down, it doesn't really help him. Ah.. but it's every man for himself. Now that means don't take advice from men and don't take advice from women.

come on...

 

[Fruitbat]

Well you don't, they choose you. RP 101. haha..

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What is your point in this? Why try to humiliate a few men that have found a solution. The truth is that they took action and did something instead of just complaining. They actually did well. The rate of LTR failure for mixed White/Asian is less than white/white.

perhaps you want to teach that Asian women are also slutty in the deep down heart. so what, how is that worse than other races and many of the men know it already.

Are you telling them that they should lower their self-esteem because they have found success in this way? Or perhaps that they should stop it so that there are more for.... you....

I mean Jesus, we tell them...

- don't single moms
- don't Asians
- don't over 25

Telling everyone to try for the same few, no wonder those chicks are with a fat head and arrogant.

I get what your telling, and you explained it well. But why kick a man when he is down, it doesn't really help him. Ah.. but it's every man for himself. Now that means don't take advice from men and don't take advice from women.

come on...

the other thing to add is as a HB to an Asian and father to mixed Asian/white, I acknowledge that I punch higher with Asian women. There’s no big secret.

I am fine with this!
Another point to note is that divorce is still a much bigger shame in these countries, hence Asian women do NOT want an alpha/PUA type and part of the reason they date down in looks/age is because of that.

do you think I’m running away from my hot 11 years younger wife? For who? 20 years younger? Not happening.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

the other thing to add is as a HB to an Asian and father to mixed Asian/white, I acknowledge that I punch higher with Asian women. There’s no big secret.

I am fine with this!
Another point to note is that divorce is still a much bigger shame in these countries, hence Asian women do NOT want an alpha/PUA type and part of the reason they date down in looks/age is because of that.

do you think I’m running away from my hot 11 years younger wife? For who? 20 years younger? Not happening.

Do they still want resources?

Hint: Nobody wants a "PUA" guy except in the delusional minds of some people on this site.

 

[metalwater]

the other thing to add is as a HB to an Asian and father to mixed Asian/white, I acknowledge that I punch higher with Asian women. There’s no big secret.

I am fine with this!
Another point to note is that divorce is still a much bigger shame in these countries, hence Asian women do NOT want an alpha/PUA type and part of the reason they date down in looks/age is because of that.

do you think I’m running away from my hot 11 years younger wife? For who? 20 years younger? Not happening.

pretty often those women don't behave all that well. as long as you have your sht together and can deal with it, it's ok. often they do want an alpha but can't get one to commit, the same problem as western girls have. when they go picking to settle for a non-alpha the white guys come out ahead of the Asians for more than one reason. The attributes that make them attractive to the same race are sometimes slightly different than a white guy sees.

using the skills and attributes that one has is just being smart. anything else would be dumb.

a white guy with enough money gets a couple of smv points with Asians in poor Asia for being white. it means he gets an 8 instead of a fat five some other place. There are plenty of local guys that the girl would be excited to get, but she can't get them to commit.

the reason we preach against the blue pill is that it can lead to unhappiness for the man. now if the man is happy with his choice and he uses location as part of his value he is smart. It gives him a bump on his perceived value, using that is smart. And yes, the girls know it but even so it still works because it is tangible.

if he has problems, they have to be dealt with just the same as in any place or combination.

 

[Pandora]

Also, dating outside of your race isn't natural.

I dont know man. I am not attracted to girls that look like me with a wig. I think its natural for people to prefer the exotic. I like black girls that dont look too Afrocentric. It sounds bad but its true.

If there was no stigma to dating outside your " race" most women would date outside their race. Black chicks would date white dudes, Asian girls would exclusively date white dudes, nordic looking white girls would date black dudes etc.....

I used to think preference was a social construct but I am starting to change my mind.

 

[Pandora]

I agree that MANY white guys are going for low hanging fruit with Asian woman. Asian culture pedestalizes white people. Asian women could also be naturally attracted to white guy facial features and vice versa. This is a theory that makes people uncomfortable.

The Asian white guy swirl may be genetic as much as social.

I was introduced to this idea after listening to an incel podcast called LMS. Its an interesting idea.

 

[metalwater]

The title of the thread is "Asian women versus White Women."

So, we are only allowed to talk about the merits of dating Asian women? I should think that's obvious. Asian women are easy and there's less competition for them. This takes away the man's burden of performance and he can be fat and secure with his loyal asian wife.

What about the downsides of dating Asian women? Self-destruction of your inner-Game. That's interesting to discuss too.

If guys on this forum weren't so emotional and sensitive about their low-value life decisions then there'd be an opportunity to look at the pro's and con's.

We've heard the Pro's - "Asian women do whatever I want." + "Asian women are loyal" + "Asian women make good wife" - I think I can see where the real racism is coming from.

it's difficult if the topic is close to home for a man.

Asian women are women just like any other. All the same, things apply. White guys get some added perceived value for being white in some cases. Everything else is the same. In the not-so-distant past, a guy from New York(USA) could go to small town Indiana(USA) and get a better selection locally than the other non-alphas and in SOME cases trigger alpha sense from a girl.

Asians are all of those good things as long as the perceived SMV is higher of the man. Being white or from a western country will give some points. So the guy figures this out, he is smart for doing that. He just has to be careful because the SMV is still a collection of all the attributes and if it falls short of the girl.... lookout. there is NO extra loyalty only that the perceived value of the man is higher and that will or might keep the girl in check.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

What about the downsides of dating Asian women? Self-destruction of your inner-Game. That's interesting to discuss too.

If guys on this forum weren't so emotional and sensitive about their low-value life decisions then there'd be an opportunity to look at the pro's and con's.

We've heard the Pro's - "Asian women do whatever I want." + "Asian women are loyal" + "Asian women make good wife" - I think I can see where the real racism is coming from.

Lets be real..... forget talking about self improvement/inner-game etc.

Good times created weak men, weak men let feminism flourish and now we have both while the good times are almost gone.

The majority of men cant even be bothered to work out and get in shape, let alone doing all what it takes to move from bluepilled AFC to Chad(´ish)-Status.
All they ever wanted is pvssy and maybe a family that they never had a chance of getting with western women. They dont care about becoming the best version of themselves.

Society is what it is. Not everyone has what it takes to become Chad,
like not everyone can become a commando or a doctor.

Instead of simping for western women which wouldnt pee on them if they were on fire, id rather have them giving their attention to asian women.

This could be the much needed competition anxiety for white/western women.


@forcerecon01
There are many hot asian, african and latina women out there id love to smash.

The problem with women from other races is, once you import them, they will adabt and very often you will have the same **** at hand as if you went for the white woman. You still have to keep her in line, or chances are high she will divorce-rape you like any other western woman.

The roads to family courts are plastered with mens stories that expected an easy life with an import-woman.

The other option is you migrate to asia, learn the local language fluently, work there, build yourselve a new existence ......... which is a stony path too and will take you years at least.

Whatever path you choose, there is no easy way to get what you want.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

Nobody is trying to impress ignorant losers like you.

Then i guess Muhammad Ali was an ignorant loser / racist too.....

 

[Chamber36]

This place is like reddit.

Here: a coherent on-topic response.

I was dating a half-korean chick and i remember the white girls were sorta resentful. Same way we ss white dudes might get resentful if we see a white chick dating tyrone.

So the racism also exists within women. That being said: koreans are the hottest out of all asians.

Being males we should be allowed to impregnate women of all races as long as we dont sacrifice white wombs. Gotta keep that white birth rate up.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

This place is like reddit.

Here: a coherent on-topic response.

I was dating a half-korean chick and i remember the white girls were sorta resentful. Same way we ss white dudes might get resentful if we see a white chick dating tyrone.

So the racism also exists within women. That being said: koreans are the hottest out of all asians.

Being males we should be allowed to impregnate women of all races as long as we dont sacrifice white wombs. Gotta keep that white birth rate up.

If white females want to get impregnated, then they need to be the best around.

People claiming that interracial reproducing isn't natural because people didn't do it in centuries past.... You're forgetting that they didn't have the option because trains, cars, airplanes weren't invented yet.

If given the option, people even mated with Neanderthals. And a sizeable percentage of humans alive today have Neanderthal DNA in them.

 

[Fruitbat]

Then i guess Muhammad Ali was an ignorant loser / racist too.....

he was. He was Nation of Islam. They literally believe white people are devils.
The entire pretext to him opposing the VN war was because they were browner than white people and he evidently would only fight with white people.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Then i guess Muhammad Ali was an ignorant loser / racist too.....

Even if YOU only want to be with girls of your own "race" (which is hard to believe in the year 2021)...

Who are you, or anyone, to tell other people what they should like or to call them losers for liking something else? That's pretty pathetic on your part.

 

[Fruitbat]

If white females want to get impregnated, then they need to be the best around.

People claiming that interracial reproducing isn't natural because people didn't do it in centuries past.... You're forgetting that they didn't have the option because trains, car, airplanes weren't invented yet.

If given the option, people even mated with Neanderthals. And a sizeable percentage of humans alive today have Neanderthal DNA in them.

every human being has Neanderthal DNA except sub Saharan Africans.

Clearly humans are designed to racially mix, given we clearly find other races attractive, and also the offspring of mixed race parents are healthier and stronger than same race. It’s called hybrid vigour. The more diverse the gene pool, the better.

This is at odds to the individual perception. All the individual wants is their OWN genes to flourish. Therefore the modus operandi is to kill your enemies and secks their women. What an individual wants, and what’s good in objective terms, are two different things.

issue is for me is I believe in individual rights and the supremacy of the individual over the collective. I therefore don’t care about racial groups. I do care about culture.