Why are there so many losers?

[FuzzX]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/aywqa3
I tried once and it was hard so I gave up.

Maybe some social scientist here can explain to me this train of thought. I've run into a few of these types and it just bewilders me as to how there are SO many now. The first bunch I guess are incels, it was the guy from Toronto when I first heard of it and just assumed they were sexually frustrated nice guys. Then on this thing called Reddit there is a subforum called ForeverAlone where people post the most depressing non-sense and then when you engage them over chat, shirk your advice or become extremely hostile and defend their victim status to the death. I've been banned on several of those 'forums' or subreddits or what have you just for asking questions. They remind me of the MGTOWs and Sandman's board full of losers. I was on there for awhile but when I mentioned that I had a girlfriend, I was shouted down and eventually banned for the mere suggestion of going abroad to meet a woman. When did men become such pussified losers?

I always thought the 'black pill' stage was a transition point to the PUA, kind of like a right of passage. In my mind the incel finds out the world is not as he thought, learns a bit of game and applies it until he reaches a stage of relative success and then coasts. It seems this new generation is never able to escape that transition and just remains there stewing in their own hatred until they pop. It certainly doesn't help that feminism and transwhatever isms are now 'systemic' to use their terminology and ignoring or even making the situation worse. But at what point did men just collectively say "Aw Fvck it!" and quit? When I ran up against problems, I looked for solutions or areas where I could go to find success... it seems like this generation is dominated by losers. Is this the Gold Star generation? There are loads of countries around the world that aren't as 'connected' as we are, there are loads of places where the women still act like women. The internet hasn't reached EVERY household in the world yet, there are still remote destinations with LOADS of women that are nice and don't need 'game' to be engaged. Why aren't men being more proactive? If it doesn't work for you in one place, change to another. You don't have to 'improve' when you go to these other zones, you are already the most improved person in the place. Take Romania for example or Transylvania, Transnistria, Colombia, Ecuador, Cambodia and Myanmar, these are places where women exist in droves and where feminism is purely in the realms of science fiction. Is it so difficult to accept that nice women also exist in other places? I don't understand the obsession men have with staying in place, our ancestors immigrated all over the world to escape natural disasters. Should ***** famine not be included in that?

I am reaching the point where I no longer understand trends and some bits of technology. That whole 'hashtag' thing completely went over my head. I could never understand what about Twitter was attractive and I was still trying to grasp the significance of MySpace when facebook took over. Is social media the cause of all this rot?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Why are there so many losers?

It's the age of the snowflakes now...
It's easier to moan and whine over your life than to actually do something about it.

 

[Epicenter]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/aywqa3
I tried once and it was hard so I gave up.

Maybe some social scientist here can explain to me this train of thought. I've run into a few of these types and it just bewilders me as to how there are SO many now. The first bunch I guess are incels, it was the guy from Toronto when I first heard of it and just assumed they were sexually frustrated nice guys. Then on this thing called Reddit there is a subforum called ForeverAlone where people post the most depressing non-sense and then when you engage them over chat, shirk your advice or become extremely hostile and defend their victim status to the death. I've been banned on several of those 'forums' or subreddits or what have you just for asking questions. They remind me of the MGTOWs and Sandman's board full of losers. I was on there for awhile but when I mentioned that I had a girlfriend, I was shouted down and eventually banned for the mere suggestion of going abroad to meet a woman. When did men become such pussified losers?

I always thought the 'black pill' stage was a transition point to the PUA, kind of like a right of passage. In my mind the incel finds out the world is not as he thought, learns a bit of game and applies it until he reaches a stage of relative success and then coasts. It seems this new generation is never able to escape that transition and just remains there stewing in their own hatred until they pop. It certainly doesn't help that feminism and transwhatever isms are now 'systemic' to use their terminology and ignoring or even making the situation worse. But at what point did men just collectively say "Aw Fvck it!" and quit? When I ran up against problems, I looked for solutions or areas where I could go to find success... it seems like this generation is dominated by losers. Is this the Gold Star generation? There are loads of countries around the world that aren't as 'connected' as we are, there are loads of places where the women still act like women. The internet hasn't reached EVERY household in the world yet, there are still remote destinations with LOADS of women that are nice and don't need 'game' to be engaged. Why aren't men being more proactive? If it doesn't work for you in one place, change to another. You don't have to 'improve' when you go to these other zones, you are already the most improved person in the place. Take Romania for example or Transylvania, Transnistria, Colombia, Ecuador, Cambodia and Myanmar, these are places where women exist in droves and where feminism is purely in the realms of science fiction. Is it so difficult to accept that nice women also exist in other places? I don't understand the obsession men have with staying in place, our ancestors immigrated all over the world to escape natural disasters. Should ***** famine not be included in that?

I am reaching the point where I no longer understand trends and some bits of technology. That whole 'hashtag' thing completely went over my head. I could never understand what about Twitter was attractive and I was still trying to grasp the significance of MySpace when facebook took over. Is social media the cause of all this rot?

Back in the day you got bullied by other guys if you were not manly enough I guess. So you did not have much of a choice. It was probably like going to the war. You got bullied to get there. Many men would not have done it on their own.

Big reason why men chased women was the mystery. The unknown gave the special magic to go for women. Nowadays you know every inch of the butthole in hd. So you know exactly how it looks. So the reason to chase girls nowadays is for ego gratification. But if you do it for that reason you shoot in you own feet because the rejection hurts then even more because you did the approach mainly just for your narcissism.

Then additionally you have way more toys to distract yourself. Back then people were bored out of their mind after finishing their slave labour.

 

[derby1]

single mom households are the biggest plague upon society since the black death.

the children it creates are dysfunctional. disloyal, jaded weaklings.

I would go as far as they should be charged for emotional abuse. They morph their own kids into the total opposite of the guy who got them pregnant

 

[FuzzX]

Women raised in single parents households (particularly single mother households) tend to have BPD - Daddy Issues/Abandonment issues. The sex is amazing, but these women are so dangerous if you promote them to an LTR. They will chew you up and spit you out.

Don't you have 5 kids living with single moms?

 

[FuzzX]

The moms have new beta provider dads, and they are all boys. I'm not sure what effect being a boy in a single parent household is.

Most of my male friends come from single mom households and they seem to be more in touch with the feminine mindset, which can be in advantage in Game.

Bro did you come from a single parent household?

 

[derby1]

Women raised in single parents households (particularly single mother households) tend to have BPD - Daddy Issues/Abandonment issues. The sex is amazing, but these women are so dangerous if you promote them to an LTR. They will chew you up and spit you out.

Did you read the post I wrote around 3 months back? My Uncle runs a counselling charity in the UK.

Women are his biggest users of therapy.

if a woman uses his service and she was the bi product of a fatherless household, they never ever donate to his service, just parasite off it,

Women who speak highly of their dad but need therapy always donate.

interesting psychological thing there, that fatherless girls have no loyalty or honour

 

[Paper Crane]

Because people are clueless and lack real awareness of themselves. They find it hard to correlate the fact that they have little social life/social skills and confidence to why they're not getting much attention from women.

Many of these dudes spend a lot of time their time playing video games all day, nerding out on the internet, and probably beating off to porn / cam girls. Then wonder why they don't know how to pick up women. They're practically hermits who spend most of their time indoors and when they do go outdoors are stuck to their tech devices playing Pokemon Go.

People really expect that you can be below average in what you accomplished for yourself as a person, a personality and a character in the world and still get women.

 

[FuzzX]

I thought this was a joke when it came out. Now, I'm not so sure.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

single mom households are the biggest plague upon society since the black death.

the children it creates are dysfunctional. disloyal, jaded weaklings.

I would go as far as they should be charged for emotional abuse. They morph their own kids into the total opposite of the guy who got them pregnant

Im with you 1000% on this, men without fathers are destroying our society

 

[B80]

My ex wife didn't get on with her dad through her teens, barely saw him for years (parents split before her teens).

Since the divorce she has fell out with him again, appears to have pushed him away.
Similar thing with me,, blew up marriage for minimal reasons.

Has climbed management ranks, so has fairly aggressive, masculine side, although this wasn't really present in our relationship. Accused me of being controlling when she wanted to do things I saw as being inappropriate and I told her they were inappropriate... not getting home until nearly morning after nights out when out daughter was unwell around 18 months old.

Sees herself as strong, single mum. Think she wanted to have full 'controlling at home like at work and didn't like me raising the issues.

Think she has underlying issues with men due to not liking her dad, plus the hardly inconsequential issue of being abused by her mums old boyfriend.

Generally she seems stable to be fair, but when analyzing it, signs of men issues are there to be seen. If I'd been on this site 15 years ago, may have seen the red flags and avoided.

Luckily I'm seeing my daughter half the week, so hopefully she won't follow in her mums footsteps.

 

[LiveYourDream]

Back in the day you got bullied by other guys if you were not manly enough I guess. So you did not have much of a choice. It was probably like going to the war. You got bullied to get there. Many men would not have done it on their own.

Big reason why men chased women was the mystery. The unknown gave the special magic to go for women. Nowadays you know every inch of the butthole in hd. So you know exactly how it looks. So the reason to chase girls nowadays is for ego gratification. But if you do it for that reason you shoot in you own feet because the rejection hurts then even more because you did the approach mainly just for your narcissism.

Then additionally you have way more toys to distract yourself. Back then people were bored out of their mind after finishing their slave labour.

Thank you for sharing this @Epicenter. You expanded my awareness. I really appreciate that.

 

[Grinderman]

Im with you 1000% on this, men without fathers are destroying our society

And destroying sosuave!!!

Robert Bly addresses the absent father phenomenon saying that a hole forms in the psyche of the boy and that hole is not filled up with pleasant things, in it manifests a distrust of men in general (especially older men). You can see that played out here on the forum as the soft generation lashes out at what they perceive as "misogynists" and "bad alphas" notice the passive aggressive shaming language they use.....(a tool used by females).

An advice given by the positive masculinity crowd is (if you want to improve your success with women) make friends with MEN. Hanging out with the boys, going for a beer shooting pool, rolling on the mat, hitting the pads in pairs, playing cards, shooting the ****e, having banter........TAKES CARE OF THE MAN'S "EMOTIONAL NEEDS" and the result is that he (shouldn't anyway) doesn't fall into a needy, codependent frame while with his female. He's filled up with masculine energy and can bring that energy to his interactions with the female. Chilled and already fulfilled.

 

[Epicenter]

I just wanted to throw this out:



“Man only plays when he is in the fullest sense of the word a human being, and he is only fully a human being when he plays”

Quote by Friedrich von Schiller: “Man only plays when he is in ...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's the age of the snowflakes now...
It's easier to moan and whine over your life than to actually do something about it.

Its an addictive cycle for those in that position.

 

[RickTheToad]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/aywqa3
I tried once and it was hard so I gave up.

Maybe some social scientist here can explain to me this train of thought. I've run into a few of these types and it just bewilders me as to how there are SO many now. The first bunch I guess are incels, it was the guy from Toronto when I first heard of it and just assumed they were sexually frustrated nice guys. Then on this thing called Reddit there is a subforum called ForeverAlone where people post the most depressing non-sense and then when you engage them over chat, shirk your advice or become extremely hostile and defend their victim status to the death. I've been banned on several of those 'forums' or subreddits or what have you just for asking questions. They remind me of the MGTOWs and Sandman's board full of losers. I was on there for awhile but when I mentioned that I had a girlfriend, I was shouted down and eventually banned for the mere suggestion of going abroad to meet a woman. When did men become such pussified losers?

I always thought the 'black pill' stage was a transition point to the PUA, kind of like a right of passage. In my mind the incel finds out the world is not as he thought, learns a bit of game and applies it until he reaches a stage of relative success and then coasts. It seems this new generation is never able to escape that transition and just remains there stewing in their own hatred until they pop. It certainly doesn't help that feminism and transwhatever isms are now 'systemic' to use their terminology and ignoring or even making the situation worse. But at what point did men just collectively say "Aw Fvck it!" and quit? When I ran up against problems, I looked for solutions or areas where I could go to find success... it seems like this generation is dominated by losers. Is this the Gold Star generation? There are loads of countries around the world that aren't as 'connected' as we are, there are loads of places where the women still act like women. The internet hasn't reached EVERY household in the world yet, there are still remote destinations with LOADS of women that are nice and don't need 'game' to be engaged. Why aren't men being more proactive? If it doesn't work for you in one place, change to another. You don't have to 'improve' when you go to these other zones, you are already the most improved person in the place. Take Romania for example or Transylvania, Transnistria, Colombia, Ecuador, Cambodia and Myanmar, these are places where women exist in droves and where feminism is purely in the realms of science fiction. Is it so difficult to accept that nice women also exist in other places? I don't understand the obsession men have with staying in place, our ancestors immigrated all over the world to escape natural disasters. Should ***** famine not be included in that?

I am reaching the point where I no longer understand trends and some bits of technology. That whole 'hashtag' thing completely went over my head. I could never understand what about Twitter was attractive and I was still trying to grasp the significance of MySpace when facebook took over. Is social media the cause of all this rot?

Cambodia and Myanmar? Seriously? One is under China's influence and control and the other is in the middle of gunning down their citizens. Romania or Ecuador seem okay though.; just don't take them back to the US.

 

[FuzzX]

Cambodia and Myanmar? Seriously? One is under China's influence and control and the other is in the middle of gunning down their citizens. Romania or Ecuador seem okay though.; just don't take them back to the US.

I'm not an American so that doesn't apply to me. I lived in China quite a long time and was never chased down for my opinions but I've had it done here in Canuckistan quite a few times. Cambodia is not a bad place. Myanmar is currently in crisis, I've been watching since day 1 and well before that. Just because they're having a revolution doesn't mean the women are bad, take a look:

China's a big place you know, they're not all drones walking around. The only communism there is the one they're selling American couch potatoes. If there was communism, they wouldn't have the largest middle class in the world and be vying for economic superiority but if you want to buy into the propaganda, that's on you. Luckily, I don't look at all brits as dumb snaggle toothed Harry Potters or all Americans as Roseanne Barr look alikes. I would say America right now is more communist than China. Asia might be the only place left where super straight is still a thing.

Philanthropic group founded by billionaire George Soros demands release of staff member held in Myanmar

The Open Society Foundations says allegations of financial misconduct are false. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

How about that eh?

 

[SargeMaximus]

Me and my brothers grew up without a father. I had my father for 8 years, my youngest brother never knew him. My youngest brother is a skinny, 140'lb guy that chainsmokes and is a huge SJW and racism/LGBTQ activist. Yet he gets attention and sex from HOT girls while I, a masculine non-conformist get 5-6's. I wish things worked like how you all are making it out to be but it just doesn't where I live. My "loser" brother gets more hot ***** than I've seen.

 

[FuzzX]

Me and my brothers grew up without a father. I had my father for 8 years, my youngest brother never knew him. My youngest brother is a skinny, 140'lb guy that chainsmokes and is a huge SJW and racism/LGBTQ activist. Yet he gets attention and sex from HOT girls while I, a masculine non-conformist get 5-6's. I wish things worked like how you all are making it out to be but it just doesn't where I live. My "loser" brother gets more hot ***** than I've seen.

Don't stick your **** in crazy. Those HOT women are not going to do your brother any favors later when he puts a ring around one of them. I'm told the most colorful snakes are usually the most deadly.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Don't stick your **** in crazy. Those HOT women are not going to do your brother any favors later when he puts a ring around one of them. I'm told the most colorful snakes are usually the most deadly.

I don't care about what my brother does but I want the HOT girls and I have enough self control to not ever get married. It's not for me. But to be able to have these girls as fwb's is ideal for me.