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yep , and you kept only for banging .

women are ok with this at the beginning , but then they will start over analyze and will push for more .

in your case it can be just you coming to your place or picking her up with your car and drive her to your place .

or a proper date before going home

Basically she wants steps that are going to lead towards a relationship eventually
Thats true.

The thing is that I dont like those games. She could have came to me and express what she was feeling, and I would be able to hear and talk with her.

But doing this emotional games, I dont have time for that.
 

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And I didnt get your point. What was wrong with me coming here to ask that?
Nothing wrong, all im saying is this woman seems to have invested in you, some women are highly naive from having cuck dads, or No dad. they crave a man to love them, Im not saying be a captain save a ho, but you seemed a bit arrogant in this scenario.

always leave a woman with love, never a sour taste.
 

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Nothing wrong, all im saying is this woman seems to have invested in you, some women are highly naive from having cuck dads, or No dad. they crave a man to love them, Im not saying be a captain save a ho, but you seemed a bit arrogant in this scenario.

always leave a woman with love, never a sour taste.
Got it.

Yeah, I really lost my patience with her when she was calling me all the time. I used to gave her some attention but sometimes she wanted that on the middle of the day or in a time I was busy doing something... Maybe I was arrogant doing that... I just dont have patience to explain over and over that I was busy and I would answer when I could.

But I have to say that even being a casual relationship I was treating her good(or I think I was). Cooked for her, after the sex we stayed hugging each other and having a nice talk.

I never disrespected her like saying some bullsh1t or something like that. Thats why I felt so weird. The only thing that could be a problem was that time when I ignored her calls and she got pissed off.
 

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Thats true.

The thing is that I dont like those games. She could have came to me and express what she was feeling, and I would be able to hear and talk with her.

But doing this emotional games, I dont have time for that.
Emotional????? Who is getting emotional? You posted here. She is absent. She walked away, she got the alpha, you don't. I will review your post from the beginning.
 

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Emotional????? Who is getting emotional? You posted here. She is absent. She walked away, she got the alpha, you don't. I will review your post from the beginning.
She texted me after that. I stopped talking with her.

Exactly what she said after that:

First: "Hey, how are you?" I didnt answer

Second message she sent: "Thats why I stopped sending message."

There was no reason for that. She got cold, I tried to look for her, she turn off the phone without saying a word. Then I left... And as I didnt texted her anymore, she came back texting me again. Isnt it a stupid game?

I was worried she became cold out of nowhere, called her... Asked her if she was ok and if I did something wrong. She said: "oh its everything ok." Then she hung up the phone without saying a word. And after that, she sent the messages above.


What I did after that? Just moved on. I didnt get emotional. I just wanted to talk with guys here to see if there was any theory for that. Not more than this. Just to understand.

Lol, I really dont understand what I typed wrong here. Maybe I explained this whole situation wrong.

I really dont care if she is alpha or not. I dont have feelings for her and Im not sad with that.

I could be sincere enough if I was being emotional with this. But the whole meaning with this post was only to analyze this situation.

Maybe I didnt explain my point correctly.
 

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Yeah... It started with this talk of nothing serious... But I think she was not being honest with that and was testing my behavior.

So, as it doesnt work... She changed.

She texted me those days, but Im not up to play those games... So just next.
She probably wanted something serious from the start, but most women play it cool and say they want casual with clandestine motives to lock a guy down, slowly.
Them acting up and causing micro dramas are all ways to see your investment in her, to lift your veil and also to test you in the process.

Her dissapearing and being dramatic was her attempting to flip the script on you.
I think you became emotional by the sounds of things slightly and fell in to her frame a bit. She chopped away parts of you to get you investing more, and it worked. You appeased her. You’re thinking about her a ton, making threads. You’re emotionally investing as she wanted.

Every women is a game, because they each are playing their own. The only way not to fall in to the game is to truly feel you don’t need a woman or that you’ve already lost her from the start, so you’re never afraid of losing them.
But none of that means you don’t treat them well and without respect and care.

They don’t think theyre playing games. Their directive is to feel safe and secure, with an emotionally strong man who is abundant mentally. When they test it’s usually subconscious. And a test in various manners. Some coming from unmet needs. It Becomes conscious when you have messed up in the past with her.

It’s hard to say the exact scenario, but she probably feels you didn’t care about her on an emotional level so she acted up. And you probably communicated that in a number of ways.
But if also guess you didn’t have high interest in her. But you’re in a tizzy now because you thought acting cool and aloof would get you a girl coming back for more no matter how you showed up.
 
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She probably wanted something serious from the start, but most women play it cool and say they want casual with clandestine motives to lock a guy down, slowly.
Them acting up and causing micro dramas are all ways to see your investment in her, to lift your veil and also to test you in the process.

Her dissapearing and being dramatic was her attempting to flip the script on you.
I think you became emotional by the sounds of things slightly and fell in to her frame a bit. She chopped away parts of you to get you investing more, and it worked. You appeased her. You’re thinking about her a ton, making threads. You’re emotionally investing as she wanted.

Every women is a game, because they each are playing their own. The only way not to fall in to the game is to truly feel you don’t need a woman or that you’ve already lost her from the start, so you’re never afraid of losing them.
But none of that means you don’t treat them well and without respect and care.
That makes sense.
 

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That could be true if we didnt agree to be only a casual thing.

Also I always offered to pay for her bus ticket. I told her that meeting here would be better and I didnt care to pay those tickets and help her.

Maybe I didnt explain this story better. But probably she said that she didnt want anything serious to see how I would react. Maybe I would chase and say I wanted something serious... But I said that for me was ok and I didnt want a LTR for now.
Ok. In that case you have to understand something. Women are almost never going to tell you off the bat they want something serious. They want to see how things go just like a guy does. At first.

But if they begin to feel more for you then that changes. The rules of engagement are not static. They are changeable.

So she may have agreed to casual at first, but that may have changed.

Also. As to the bus ticket. She paid herself the first couple of times because she didn’t want to feel obligated or required to sleep with you. Obviously she did it anyway so she was willing to accept you paying this last time. Allowing you to pay at that point is observing some investment on your part.

But she feels it’s not equal, hence her withdrawal.
 

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Ok. In that case you have to understand something. Women are almost never going to tell you off the bat they want something serious. They want to see how things go just like a guy does. At first.

But if they begin to feel more for you then that changes. The rules of engagement are not static. They are changeable.

So she may have agreed to casual at first, but that may have changed.

Also. As to the bus ticket. She paid herself the first couple of times because she didn’t want to feel obligated or required to sleep with you. Obviously she did it anyway so she was willing to accept you paying this last time. Allowing you to pay at that point is observing some investment on your part.

But she feels it’s not equal, hence her withdrawal.
Thats a great point! Agree with you.

For a moment I thought that she wanted something, but after this talk I truly believe she wanted only a casual date. hahaha... but lesson learned now.

I just think that it could be more easy if she could express her feeling without hiding or pretending to be different. Cause even I ignoring her calls the day she got mad (and I returned later)... I have told her that I was not that kind of person to be talking a lot on phone (whatsapp, etc). And that during the day I was very busy working and doing my stuffs. But I always talked with her whenever I was free.
 

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I'm not convinced it will help to know why she stopped chasing.

The more women you chase, and the more DJ lifestyle you adopt, the more women will come and go without explanation. I strongly advise to stop trying to understand why. Waste of your time in my opinion.
I think that this probably very sound advice. Who cares "why" she stopped... It's almost impossible to know. If I were you, I'd ghost her for a while and then if you want to see her again, buy her the bus tickets. Be a bit more generous. But do not over do it. After that, have her buy the bus tickets. Switch it up. See how she reacts.
 

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She texted me after that. I stopped talking with her.

Exactly what she said after that:

First: "Hey, how are you?" I didnt answer

Second message she sent: "Thats why I stopped sending message."

There was no reason for that. She got cold, I tried to look for her, she turn off the phone without saying a word. Then I left... And as I didnt texted her anymore, she came back texting me again. Isnt it a stupid game?

I was worried she became cold out of nowhere, called her... Asked her if she was ok and if I did something wrong. She said: "oh its everything ok." Then she hung up the phone without saying a word. And after that, she sent the messages above.


What I did after that? Just moved on. I didnt get emotional. I just wanted to talk with guys here to see if there was any theory for that. Not more than this. Just to understand.

Lol, I really dont understand what I typed wrong here. Maybe I explained this whole situation wrong.

I really dont care if she is alpha or not. I dont have feelings for her and Im not sad with that.

I could be sincere enough if I was being emotional with this. But the whole meaning with this post was only to analyze this situation.

Maybe I didnt explain my point correctly.
Your first mistake. Never chase a woman who goes cold and call her like something is wrong. Sometimes its a test, sometimes they might just want some space, etc.

Whatever it is, just wait it out for her to get back to you. Calling to try and talk to her about it only makes it worse and paints you as a man who doesn't understand basic things like this in her eyes.
 

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Your first mistake. Never chase a woman who goes cold and call her like something is wrong. Sometimes its a test, sometimes they might just want some space, etc.

Whatever it is, just wait it out for her to get back to you. Calling to try and talk to her about it only makes it worse and paints you as a man who doesn't understand basic things like this in her eyes.
Thats true man.

At first I was a little concerned that something wrong had happened to her.

But I forgot the fact that usually if something bothers a woman they don't take long to talk about.

So I was really wrong to call her to find out what had happened.

But anyway, right after that, I met another girl and moved on.
 

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Thats true man.

At first I was a little concerned that something wrong had happened to her.

But I forgot the fact that usually if something bothers a woman they don't take long to talk about.

So I was really wrong to call her to find out what had happened.

But anyway, right after that, I met another girl and moved on.
I think that you are more interested look like guys here say alpha , than to actually make things easy for you on the long term

loosing girls because of reasons like this , is not really helping you on the long term
 

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I think that you are more interested look like guys here say alpha , than to actually make things easy for you on the long term

loosing girls because of reasons like this , is not really helping you on the long term
Cause it really worth being part of those games right? Wasting time and energy trying to figure out what is happening instead of focusing on some other women that dont play those nonsense games and then be able to share better moments together?

At least in my point of view, its easier to be direct and not play those emotional games (as some women do).

Should I became her puppy and give her attention in the time she require it, only because she want that in that moment, and if I did not, she would became cold and stop talking with me?

Its not a matter of looking like a alpha... Dont have any intentions with that.

My intentions are: have some good moments with the women I've met, enjoy sex and conversation... And avoid toxic behaviors that could harm me or put me at some risk.

And I like to post those situations here cause here is a place I can share and learn with other guys... Even debating points that I or someone dont agree with.
 

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I think that you are more interested look like guys here say alpha , than to actually make things easy for you on the long term

loosing girls because of reasons like this , is not really helping you on the long term
And a better title to this thread should be:

SHE WAS SHOWING INTEREST, THEN SHE STOPPED.

I think I made a mistake with this title and maybe lead to another interpretation... And not what I wanted to express.
 

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some personal, unique thing for her probably. Maybe you said something to her that her uncle that looked at her funny said to her one time and has since bothered her. It's probably some super rando shiz like that.
 
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