If the average smv of men increases due to the red pill going mainstream

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The gap between high smv men and the rest is only going to widen further. Simping online seems to have gotten worse during the pandemic as evidenced by the huge growth of OnlyFans. I've noticed it too on platforms like twitter where even female '6's I know now get a ton of thirsty men hanging on their every tweet.

If anything I suspect we're going to see a backlash against 'hook up culture' etc at some point from normie men in alliance with anti-sex radical feminists. We saw this to some extent with the anti-PUA backlash of 2014 when even regular dudes who'd dabbled in game decided that it wasn't in their interest to have men who were good with women running around the place. But it never really took off beyond attacks on the PUA community because most PUAs sucked and chodes could rationalise to themselves that game 'doesn't work'. Nowadays good game is rubbed in their faces via social media platforms like instagram, so when men have harems normie men are seeing it.

And that's the thing: regular guys won't rebel against the women who they are simping for, they will rebel against the players who those women are ****ing on the side. It's already starting and will ramp up with promiscuous men increasingly being cast as predatory and abusive (because remember, women don't like sex and can only be manipulated into bed ;).
 

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Will the 20/80 rule widen, or will the bar for entering the 20/80 become higher?
I do wish men would get this rule out their head. Although I believe women toy with 80% of males more,

Loads of mediocre men have multiple women over the course of a year. I know about 4 guys on my street, no game, no physique, and yet never short of a hook up.
 

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I do wish men would get this rule out their head. Although I believe women toy with 80% of males more,

Loads of mediocre men have multiple women over the course of a year. I know about 4 guys on my street, no game, no physique, and yet never short of a hook up.
depends what type of girls
 

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It will end up being the 99/01 rule the way things are going. And women will be pissed off because the 1% won't commit.
depends on the girl obviously , for really good looking women ( that most of the times are also kinda semi prostitutes , “ you know a girl like me needs the best things “ ) the bar is even higher
 

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depends on the girl obviously , for really good looking women ( that most of the times are also kinda semi prostitutes , “ you know a girl like me needs the best things “ ) the bar is even higher
If a girl says that I'd probably vomit all over her. It's funny how skewed their perception is that being a greedy entitled whoare is equivalent to being "high value" in their world.

I think a lot of them are falling into the trap of becoming addicted to the attention they get from men whilst forgetting that their beauty isn't going to last forever. They're in for a hand landing when their beauty starts to fade.
 

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If a girl says that I'd probably vomit all over her. It's funny how skewed their perception is that being a greedy entitled whoare is equivalent to being "high value" in their world.

I think a lot of them are falling into the trap of becoming addicted to the attention they get from men whilst forgetting that their beauty isn't going to last forever. They're in for a hand landing when their beauty starts to fade.
if a woman is really taking care of herself she will be good looking till her early 40s , especially for the older gentleman
 

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what does it matter, men are concerned they are in the 80% and from where i sit, loads of mediocre men are getting laid
In the sense that higher value men are the first option women , and they rarely sleep with someone at their level or bellow . They only go up
 

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The gap between high smv men and the rest is only going to widen further. Simping online seems to have gotten worse during the pandemic as evidenced by the huge growth of OnlyFans. I've noticed it too on platforms like twitter where even female '6's I know now get a ton of thirsty men hanging on their every tweet.

If anything I suspect we're going to see a backlash against 'hook up culture' etc at some point from normie men in alliance with anti-sex radical feminists. We saw this to some extent with the anti-PUA backlash of 2014 when even regular dudes who'd dabbled in game decided that it wasn't in their interest to have men who were good with women running around the place. But it never really took off beyond attacks on the PUA community because most PUAs sucked and chodes could rationalise to themselves that game 'doesn't work'. Nowadays good game is rubbed in their faces via social media platforms like instagram, so when men have harems normie men are seeing it.

And that's the thing: regular guys won't rebel against the women who they are simping for, they will rebel against the players who those women are ****ing on the side. It's already starting and will ramp up with promiscuous men increasingly being cast as predatory and abusive (because remember, women don't like sex and can only be manipulated into bed ;).
"Anti sex radical feminists"
 

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and they rarely sleep with someone at their level or bellow . They only go up
This purely isnt true anymore, i only have to look outside to see who theses ho4's are getting pregnant by. lowest SMV guys possible.

Mediocre guys are getting sex, they may be toyed with a lot more, but their still getting laid.
 

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Will the 20/80 rule widen, or will the bar for entering the 20/80 become higher?
No there has always been betas and alphas that know the truth throughout history and it won't change. Weak people will always be weak and strong people will always be strong. Giving strong philosophies to the weak may change some but most will still deny reality.
 
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