Disagree but seeing how your pulling 5-8 contacts on any given whenever you want which is very high pull rate. Seems to be working for you.
However why would a guy with such high success rate loose their cool with girls that I have read in your posts?
I believe the fact is a guy cannot talk as much as you say and retain his ambiguity and not come off as a bantering idiot.
Less is more in text game.
You cant flirt over text. Its sexxx talk with no touching. Its nothing but words. FACT.
You can't stick it in her through the phone. I would much rather be carasmatic/personality in person then in text my friend.
Some guys just have congruence issues. SoSuave won't fix that.
I am the first to admit I can struggle with in the moment situations...I still react poorly at times when put on the spot. I have gotten better at it, but still need to improve. No argument from me on that one.
Also I think I should clarify that 5-8 comment. That would be a situation where I had time to send a bunch of messages in the morning and then follow up throughout the day. Doesn't happen that often where that is the case, but on a cold snowy weekend day where I might be chilling watching football most of the day, I have done that more than once.
Typically on a normal day it might be 2-3. The main thing is no matter how well it is going with women you are seeing, to continue to add new women to the pipeline. Yeah it takes effort and some time. But like anything else you get out of it what you put into it. I am not saying to be messaging all day long but you have to put in a little time and effort if you want a result.
I disagree with not being able to flirt over text. I do it all the time. You can also very effectively plant seeds in her mind and let her water them. I also tend to use certain trigger words/phrases intentionally that tend to lead her mind into sexual thoughts subconsciously...things like soaking wet, long and hard, coming, screw, etc...there is a whole lot that can be done via text that most people either don't understand, aren't very good at or don't want to investigate. I rarely even go with full on sex talk, most times it is counterproductive. It isn't needed...far better to let their imagination do the work for you...you just need to supply them the raw material to work with. They may be horny at the time but you also make yourself seem desperate which leads to lower likelihood of actually meeting. Most people would do much better at under the radar sexual stuff.
Something that I have found women love is just asking random questions...something even as simple as "So...Mayo or Miracle Whip??". Moreso than that the problem is most people don't know how to be interesting or have interesting text exchanges. They go with "Heyyy", "How are you?", "What you doing?"...like seriously...how boring can you be? If you are fun and interesting and know how to show some personality then it doesn't matter how much you text, she will enjoy it and be engaged in the exchange.
I do just fine in person regarding convos. I again sometimes need to dial back the sexual stuff...I find I do better with under the radar type stuff...things that have a sexual vibe without being overtly sexual...for instance on the first date with a woman I just recently banged at my place this past weekend( 3rd date) we had ice cream and I got done with mine first and she apologized for being so slow and I just told her I was enjoying watching her lick the cone...
I didn't come out and say "Wow...watching you lick that cone makes me think of how you would lick my c0ck!" But I implied it and more importantly she KNEW what I was referring to...
I don't do well when I come out and say stuff like that...some guys do...more power to them...I have never gotten it to work for me...I typically get ghosted if I do overtly sexual stuff like that. That is why I say people need to experiment and find what works for them.
I have banged close to 40 women from OLD over the past 5 years so I have a pretty good idea of how to make this work for me. That is including a period of time where I dated 2 women exclusively for about 2.5 years at different points(both of which I met through OLD). I am good at it. I know what works for me.
However, that doesn't mean you aren't going to hit rough patches where you have a lot of one date wonders...my issue in these spots is I tend to start trying to do to much rather than just sit back and continue doing what I know will work. In the last rough patch I had once I got back to just relaxing and doing what I normally do I basically went on 4 dates in a row that account for the 4 plates I have now. Sometimes I just need to chill and stop tinkering with things.
@soulforge sorry for hijacking this thread...realized this post probably went a little too far towards off topic.