Why do women like games and manipulation

[derby1]

I'll definitely try this.

No dont, you know why ? you see it as some kind of tactic to make chics jealous, to get some kind of response.

youre not as good as @Mauser96 , it takes years, almost to a point of disattachment from empathy

 

[flowtheory]

Lol, an advantage for millennials
I'm glad I found this website. I can't imagine learning from bitter experiences.

Oh this is just logical “chewing the fat“ talk. You’ll still get curb stomped by the world of women and dating. Like you already are. Life experiences are what make a man. No way around an ass beating.

A Spartan didn’t become a Spartan by reading about how to be a warrior. He learned in the field.

you can read until you’re as blue as this SoSuave border. But it won’t soak in to your being until you’ve had your skin peeled back by real scrapes and then it gets absorbed. Then in a few years you’ll see with clear vision what's really going on. And how things really work. And truthfully? It’s not fun. Life is brutal. RedPill is not an easy one to swallow. Hell. You’ll spit it up a few dozen times before you can hold it down

 

[flowtheory]

"Games and Manipulation" i.e. Sh!t Tests, Mind Games etc are how a woman tests your fitness as a Man. She's (desperately) hoping you'll pass her tests and be the immovable Rock that she hopes you are. She doesn't want you reacting at all. She wants to feel like you don't need her, and that nothing can shake you from your path in life (then she feels safe to come along for the ride and that she's not hitching her wagon to a Gimp).

Once you react and get annoyed with her games, then you've lost the Game.

Sometimes you just have to pass the buck to the next guy. What I should have down with my ex. Her sh!t tests were just abuse. And I fell in.

 

[flowtheory]

Yeah sh!t tests can evolve into outright disrespect. There's a line drawn with disrespectful behavior. Depending on the severity, she needs to be heavily reprimanded or cut-off.

Some women just need to be cut off. But seeing these types of women can take practice. She never stopped either. Ever. Usually if a woman is insecure she will test like crazy. Still a sh!t test but it’s intent is to validate herself, rather than seek a strong man for his and the relationships evolution

 

[flowtheory]

Well, it's pretty much the only way that many women can actually get turned on. She misbehaves, purely so she can be brutally reprimanded and submitted by her guy. It's rather pathetic, but it's a game we can't avoid - all women play it to a greater or lesser degree.

Yea try to find a woman who does it to a lesser degree otherwise they will legit take up all a mans mental and emotional energy. The tests have to add a charge to the relationship but not a burden. Life is hard enough as is. Add a difficult woman and you’re in for it

 

[flowtheory]

It's the "no muss, no fuss" conundrum.

Typically, the hotter the girl, the more sh!t testing you have to put up with.

...And the uglier/less-desirable the girl, the more doting and adoring she will be.

This is why men often settle for women several points below them in the SMP. Her hypergamy is assuaged, and he gets sh!t tested less because she knows she can't do any better.

It's the Charlize Theron and Angelina Jolie-types that you would need A-Game RedPill-on-hardmode. Even Brad Pitt had his balls crushed by Angelina.

It is certainly a conundrum. What to do.. what to do next... I for one really don’t know.
and you?

 

[Georgepithyou]

The real answer is evolution, if women didnt play games and sh*t test men then the human race would be extinct right now.

Sh*t tests and games weed out the weak men, and it's the reason mankind has become what it is today.

 

[bat soup]

Yes. The date didn't eventually happen due to exams. But she rejected some before then saying she was busy

After that, I told I liked her on the phone. She said she was in a relationship. I still tried to hold on but now I'm detached

When women like you they cooperate by not putting obstacles in your path and they make things easy for you. When they´re not interested, generally rather than directly saying no they prefer to make excuses, such as:

I´m busy
I have a boyfriend
I have exams
Etc..

The reason they do this is because even if they´re not interested in you sexually, you might still be useful to her in some way (another instagram follower, someone to fix her toilet, free meals, an ego boost when she´s feeling down, someone to chit chat with all day long etc).

 

[Dam44]

When women like you they cooperate by not putting obstacles in your path and they make things easy for you. When they´re not interested, generally rather than directly saying no they prefer to make excuses, such as:

I´m busy
I have a boyfriend
I have exams
Etc..

The reason they do this is because even if they´re not interested in you sexually, you might still be useful to her in some way (another instagram follower, someone to fix her toilet, free meals, an ego boost when she´s feeling down, someone to chit chat with all day long etc).

Haha, this is true. I don't believe she's in relationship. She only decided to say that. But the exams part is true, we had the same exams. I wouldn't go too

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

So I've cut off all contact with this girl(most of my posts here were about her). No text or calls for about two months now

I didn't block or unfollow her, I still see her Instagram and WhatsApp status frequently. I either ignore them or give no reply if I view them

I posted an advert on my WhatsApp status about my website and later that day, I saw she reposted the link. I wanted to ignore it but I thought that would be rude so I replied with thanks yyy. I just felt it was ingenuine. She didn't reply back

For some reason, she has her WhatsApp read notifications turned off since I've known her so I guess her aim was to know if I still view status. I don't know but I have a strong feeling that's why

Like, is all this necessary, playing silly games?

The SMP is nihilistic and a number game that follows the laws of economics. Female logic is encouraged to be a **** and Crater SMV. Ski down cawk mountain. Be road kill. Single mother victimhood ans bastard children from different men. A series of used condoms and aborted fetuses. The probability of single moms and children out of wedlock guarantees that reliance on state government handouts. The algorithm in play is tailored to chaos. Female nature is destructive. Implode MARRIAGE. Bulking season after a commitment.

A new egg drops every month. The SMV is cratered and declining. Hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day. Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The real answer is evolution, if women didnt play games and sh*t test men then the human race would be extinct right now.

Sh*t tests and games weed out the weak men, and it's the reason mankind has become what it is today.

There's definitely a thing to be said about the hamster wheel of the female brain. The AI has already setup a way to cause chaos. The promo for single mothers, cuckoldry, divorce, broken homes etc is a cyclical loop. The probability is astronomical that a single mom will exponentially pass on more retards and idiots in the SMP.

The antidote is no free attention. Comply or bye. Live the good life. Step up. When you see the bodies of your enemies floating around you up streams lulz had. The crash is coming gentlemen. I wont be there to put society back together. Lulz had as i watch the world burn. #nextSet

 

[flowtheory]

If you're like me and you love beautiful women, then you have to take the RedPill and saddle up. I understand the disillusionment you feel, but it doesn't have to be that way.

No necessarily disillusionment. After being with a couple hot women in relationships - especially my most recent - sometimes I wonder if it’s even worth it.
There are pros and cons, of course. But generally the more attractive she is the more narcissistic she will be. And if that’s the case? Sometimes life can’t be the main focal point of joy. Sometimes my experience is lessened because of her self importance. It becomes about her in that environment and her enjoyment. Rather than the whole of the experience. And the second she isn’t happy, they can make everyone else unhappy in a way.
This is certainly dependent on the woman of course, and her character. Not all attractive women should be put up with.

 

[dude99]

Yes. The date didn't eventually happen due to exams. But she rejected some before then saying she was busy

After that, I told I liked her on the phone. She said she was in a relationship. I still tried to hold on but now I'm detached

Here is the sober truth. Just next and move on. Delete all contact with her and move on.

No date ever happened or ever will. She will Just jack your chain from here on out.

Rejections before and after exams, now she is in a relationship (or says she is,)
She is clearly not interested.

Any further interest on your part is just a complete waste of time.

 

[Dam44]

Here is the sober truth. Just next and move on. Delete all contact with her and move on.

No date ever happened or ever will. She will Just jack your chain from here on out.

Rejections before and after exams, now she is in a relationship (or says she is,)
She is clearly not interested.

Any further interest on your part is just a complete waste of time.

Yeah, I guess this is true. Like we are classmates and every weekend I suggested something, she'ld say no. I would be like this girl doesn't like me enough and the next time we see in school, she would act like she did. Sometimes she would rest part of her chest on my shoulders. I guess she was just stringing me along.

The date that didn't happen cos of the exam, it was a new restaurant that just opened on campus. She suggested I take her there.

I should have known that she wasn't really interested based on our texts. She responds but rarely initiates like on 9:1. It was when I started pulling away she started initiating them and even called me once out of the blues
But I'm done with all that. Like I said, I've cut contact so there's going to be no effort from me again

 

[Glassguy]

Yes. The date didn't eventually happen due to exams. But she rejected some before then saying she was busy

After that, I told I liked her on the phone. She said she was in a relationship. I still tried to hold on but now I'm detached

Sounds like the only one playing games is you.....with your own mind. She isn't interested. Stop stalking her online.

 

[flowtheory]

The best way to deal with female narcissism is to knock her off the pedestal (this means giving her very few compliments and lots of teasing and poking fun at her) and not react to her emotional outbursts.

this doesn’t always work. I would sometimes refrain from compliments with the ex as she loved to compliment herself, and her confidence certainly wasn’t lacking. But she would often comment like “you haven’t complimented me in awhile” or something of the like whether it was more subtle or overt. Or if I did compliment her she would always ask if I held back.. it was a mind warp in some ways

And with teasing? She would get fighty with things — “do you think that’s funny?” “Do you think that’s okay to put down your partner?” “Are you negging me so I question myself?” And my teases weren’t rude or anything like that. If it wasn’t her flavour of enjoyment, I would actually get a minor verbal lashing, then a bit of distance. And it worked. But the whole time I felt like I was waking on eggshells with her.
And if she had a emotional outburst - walking away, hanging up, etc.. and if I didn’t react to her emotional outbursts she would sometimes go up to two days with no contact.. then give me sh!t for not reaching out to her! Even if she was the one who walked away. Some women can certainly make the man out to be a bad guy in every scenerio. And their friends and family and possibly other men will enable her. And the guy she’s dating will get ruined.

there’s a very fine line with some women. But I think she was just a bit abusive and needed control. All this is to say don’t underestimate what women will do to control a man. They all want it. Because control = safety. And especially really attractive ones, because they know they can do just about anything to get that man in line. This is why it’s so important to be dating down most of the time. You have to be a grade or a .5 above in specific areas so she won’t eff with your mind.

 

[Georgepithyou]

your biggest test will be when women go all wishy washy, or go cold, mess you around etc etc

my uncle knows all this stuff yet he still folded like a tent after a woman gave him a nights passion, and she went all distant a few weeks in

Scarcity mentality, lot of guys don't know their own value.

 

[Dam44]

Stalking? How

Sounds like the only one playing games is you.....with your own mind. She isn't interested. Stop stalking her online.

 

[bat soup]

Toss the dog a bone (temptation).
Find their weakness (craving/desire/attachment)
Give them just a little of what they think they want.

Women are experts at this.

 

[flowtheory]

You're half way there. You're getting her to react to you - Perfect. When she starts complaining that you don't compliment her, then you're on the right path. When she complains that you don't reach out when she Ghosts you, then YES!

Shrug and smirk, and stare off into the distance. Her hamster wheel will start spinning as she starts to obsess over why you're not simping when she gives you sh!t, like all other guys do. Her obsession will then turn into horniness as she tries to win you over with the only weapon she really has - her magic pu$$y. Her mindset in this state is roughly "I'll get this arrogant prick addicted to my vagina, then we shall see if he can resist me."

Women absolutely can't cope with a guy who doesn't react to her hot/cold/hot/cold silly little girl games.

Oh man, this woman was impossible though. Her tactics were too wild and unsustainable for a LTR. It was disrespectful behaviour on her side rather than just hot/cold weird drama. But that vacillation was certainly there. Which made me question everything about us.
She would hang up on me, walk out of my home during disagreements, constantly criticize me in negative ways.
So maybe if I was half more the way none of that would have made me flinch. But I think when we started up two years ago I wasn’t where I am today. But there are fine lines between tests and abuses and disrespect. And sometimes we can think something is a test, but really it’s more inline with verbal/emotional abuse or blatant disrespect — which needs to just be walked from immediately.
So I learned women’s games and tactics through a masterful sh!t tester who was a lawyer and knew how to ‘put me on the stand, testing for weakness’ in craftful ways.