Can I pull it off at 34?

[mrgoodstuff]

That steroid game is real.

Roids or not, that's a lot of work... That man is 6'2" 220lbs. Not a mass monster at all. That being said, I do imagine a level of roids is used... Probably a similar amount to a FEMALE fitness model...

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Roids or not, that's a lot of work... That man is 6'2" 220lbs. Not a mass monster at all. That being said, I do imagine a level of roids is used... Probably a similar amount to a FEMALE fitness model...

No doubt it is a lot of work but anyone who thinks they can workout and look like that is delusional. He also likely has great genetics.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

No doubt it is a lot of work but anyone who thinks they can workout and look like that is delusional. He also likely has great genetics.

You can see the bone structure alone is great genetics.

Thing about it ALL top athletes put in alot of time and work to get to that level.

The games being of time, quality work, process, planning, diet, supplementation, psychological improvements.

Most men won't look like that. But all can make a great presentation by developing what they have.

 

[Lookatu]

This dude is 44. Now I want you to think about something, a younger group 21-25 for example that's grouped up CAN politic you... Remember that.

But this dude has the goods to scorch on any age level.

I don't work out THAT hard to satisfy any women's eyes. Ain't no woman worth that. Now if I'm doing it to make money and get sponsorships as a career, that's a different story.

In a way a certain amount of guys are enslaved and their level of physique and looks are being driven and determined by what females want. Like it or not, you are buying into their narrative by trying to appease them. There's staying healthy and marketable for yourself so you can do the choosing, then there are extremes where guys totally cave in and would otherwise never stay healthy if the pvssy was abundant and free.

It's ironic it has turned this way. Those long days are gone where females try to look their best to please guys. Now females get fat and still get d1ck, attention, and looks from guys. Totally opposite.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't work out THAT hard to satisfy any women's eyes. Ain't no woman worth that. Now if I'm doing it to make money and get sponsorships as a career, that's a different story.

It's not about satisfying her eye, this is about YOU and YOU enjoying being at a dominant physical conditioning.

In a way a certain amount of guys are enslaved and their level of physique and looks are being driven and determined by what females want. Like it or not, you are buying into their narrative by trying to appease them. There's staying healthy and marketable for yourself so you can do the choosing, then there are extremes where guys totally cave in and would otherwise never stay healthy if the pvssy was abundant and free.

It has to be about YOU. If you burst your back to look like that for WOMEN you will always keep yourself one rung down BELOW them. You will intuitively RAISE their level when you are around them, in effect lowering yourself. Being in impecable conditioning is for yourself, and a testament to the level of detail and thoroughness that you have as a MAN.

It's ironic it has turned this way. Those long days are gone where females try to look their best to please guys. Now females get fat and still get d1ck, attention, and looks from guys. Totally opposite.

Yep. In the end we have to stay with women who LIKE US. When they like us they ADD to our sexual swag, charisma, confidence, aura and magnetism.

When we LIKE THEM, we ADD to them and reduce our sexual swag, charisma, confidence aura and magnetism. She will instead raise those qualities on ANOTHER man.

 

[Lookatu]

It's not about satisfying her eye, this is about YOU and YOU enjoying being at a dominant physical conditioning.

I agree with you. That was my point. Everything should be about YOU. I was just saying it's sad that there are guys that don't realize that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree with you. That was my point. Everything should be about YOU. I was just saying it's sad that there are guys that don't realize that.

It's a visible testimony to our self mastery as men. We can keep adding and improving that "house" and we should. Women HAVE to CHOOSE us. The other way does NOT work...

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I'm 31 and at work where I work with the public, I approach and converse with a lot of women and sometimes even ask them out as my work mates challenge me. It takes a lot of steel.

I am looking to purchase a good car next year and I am making money on the side where I will eventually quit my job to focus on that full time and earn even more, this job is really for stability purposes and given the situation, I consider myself lucky to have a job and earning.

I am getting my confidence, social skills up big time. I have read a lot of pick up artist material, theory.

I will approach women now and online dating is just ridiculously hard, I've had limited success of pof, match, tinder, maybe its something to do with my profile as my pics are top notch.

If I am 34, well dressed, keep myself in shape, have a good social life, earning very well, have my own place, by this time my confidence and social skills be very enhanced, would I still be able to pull off having a relationship? Maybe getting someone 6-7 years younger? I know some people who pulled off someone who is 10 years younger. I will be earning well which is a big bonus, even two sources of incomes.

Mate, your all over the place. Pick a lane. Stay in your lane. Approach 3 girls per day. You can do that on your commute to work or on lunch. The first thing you can do is lower your expenses. The transition towards entrepreneurship is that much closer but you talk buying a car which is a brain damage move. You talk about approaching women but its not to pull. Wtf? Don't buy a new car. Get a beater. Focus on entrepreneurship. Don't destroy your future as dude bro. My be 6-7? I am in my 30s and 18-23 is my lane to pull from. Not saying I won't smash otherwise. My D won't suck it self. My mates on their 40s are pulling girls in the 20s. Kevin Samuel's has tons of women call in who are trying to lockdown the whale; high value men age 40-50. Not doing it right kuz.

You aim to low. Do 3 approaches a day. 110% all into your entrepreneurship endeavour. The ROI assuming there is any will most likely come from a business venture. Hell, a failed business venture will a5 least teach you something. Getting cucked and divorced into the stone age isn't a good idea.

As for LTR, leave emotional crap to women and small children. Women are kicking in the doors in full submissive feminine begging for a relationship. Your terms.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I agree with you. That was my point. Everything should be about YOU. I was just saying it's sad that there are guys that don't realize that.

I think its funny tbh. Most are dumb and following married dating coaches. They cannot think for oneself. God forbid free thinking. Similar to women's operation evil, girl power, feminism, and body positivity, men are led astray (more often than not).

 

[Lookatu]

It's a visible testimony to our self mastery as men. We can keep adding and improving that "house" and we should. Women HAVE to CHOOSE us. The other way does NOT work...

I think it's good to be in a position to be chosen but ultimately we choose out of the options we're presented with. The amount of options will depend on how much you have improved yourself. The choice has to be mutual on both ends.

I know guys that will go out with girls, not because they are totally interested in them. It's because a women chose to give him attention, affection, her body, etc. These are the wrong reasons IMO to be with a women and clearly represents a lack of abundance mentality.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think it's good to be in a position to be chosen but ultimately we choose out of the options we're presented with. The amount of options will depend on how much you have improved yourself. The choice has to be mutual on both ends.

I know guys that will go out with girls, not because they are totally interested in them. It's because a women chose to give him attention, affection, her body, etc. These are the wrong reasons IMO to be with a women and clearly represents a lack of abundance mentality.

It should be out if choices that CHOOSE you. Remember if you like her more you're paying in your motivation, sex swag, esteem, aura and confidence. In turn she elevates a man she likes more.

 

[Lookatu]

It should be out if choices that CHOOSE you. Remember if you like her more you're paying in your motivation, sex swag, esteem, aura and confidence. In turn she elevates a man she likes more.

I think we're agreement with most things but just a communication breakdown?

I believe that one always likes(or loves) the other person more in a relationship. I don't believe two people can equally like each other. It is the person that loves more that will have to put up with more sh1t and exert more effort and make more sacrifices/compromises. I always tell guys that are wanting a LTR or marriage that wanna be happy in the long run to make sure they pick someone that loves you more.
But once again, this boils down to you having those options available to choose. Some guys don't have as many options as others depending on their smv and self improvement level. This is why they make bad choices and rush into things and end up where they are.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I think we're agreement with most things but just a communication breakdown?

I believe that one always likes(or loves) the other person more in a relationship. I don't believe two people can equally like each other. It is the person that loves more that will have to put up with more sh1t and exert more effort and make more sacrifices/compromises. I always tell guys that are wanting a LTR or marriage that wanna be happy in the long run to make sure they pick someone that loves you more.
But once again, this boils down to you having those options available to choose. Some guys don't have as many options as others depending on their smv and self improvement level. This is why they make bad choices and rush into things and end up where they are.

Some whales and other big guys will almost always be targeted to being "used".

My wish for the men in this forum is that the women they're dating and in a relationship with have true physical desire for them.

 

[2Rocky]

I know a couple of guys in their 50's who consistently had women in their low 30's and upper 20's in their life. Three come to mind who settled down with younger women long term, after having a fulfilling and varied love life.

Common thread for all of them? Endurance athletes

 

[Kotaix]

I'm 31 and at work where I work with the public, I approach and converse with a lot of women and sometimes even ask them out as my work mates challenge me. It takes a lot of steel.

I am looking to purchase a good car next year and I am making money on the side where I will eventually quit my job to focus on that full time and earn even more, this job is really for stability purposes and given the situation, I consider myself lucky to have a job and earning.

I am getting my confidence, social skills up big time. I have read a lot of pick up artist material, theory.

I will approach women now and online dating is just ridiculously hard, I've had limited success of pof, match, tinder, maybe its something to do with my profile as my pics are top notch.

If I am 34, well dressed, keep myself in shape, have a good social life, earning very well, have my own place, by this time my confidence and social skills be very enhanced, would I still be able to pull off having a relationship? Maybe getting someone 6-7 years younger? I know some people who pulled off someone who is 10 years younger. I will be earning well which is a big bonus, even two sources of incomes.

If you put your mind to it, I have no doubt that you can achieve it.

However I'd like to caution you: It sounds to me like you've replaced the Disney version of "If I do these particular things I've been told I should do, then I'll be happy" with a redpill/alpha version of the same thing. This is a trap. None of the things you're talking about are likely to make you happy, they're just what you want now and you'll get tired of them all in their due time. Do what you want to do, but do it because it makes YOU happy.

Flaunting wealth is to gold diggers what blood in the water is to sharks. Looking like you make a lot of money should not be a reason for a woman to be attracted to you. And most people who look like they make a lot of money are actually broke and faking it by going into debt.

PUA theory will help you get laid, but it's not applicable to relationships.

 

[JayAce]

Of course you can, brother

You could most likely pull it off right now if you really wanted to.

 

[2Rocky]

Your value is going up as we speak. Get your fundamentals squared away and try new approaches now: build your social circle, focus on your personal growth, don't sweat the women who don't fall all over you. Pay attention to what works and build on it. Mistakes now come at a lowercost and learning from them will pay off bigger dividends in the future. Have a vision of what that perfect future looks like and work towards it. Women are just part of it, NOT all of it. .

 

[sangheilios]

I'm going to be 31 in a few months and I've actually spent some time considering this, as I've been finding that the majority of women that are around my age who are single I just simply don't recognize as potential dating prospects.

I'm sure this has already been mentioned, but I feel once you get past 30 it is important to make sure that you stay in shape, as most guys in this age range are already well over the hill. It's also good to have your life squared away but I'm not saying you need to be some wall street level millionaire, if you are living a comfortable life than you are good. I wouldn't suggest flaunting wealth or try to live some extravagant lifestyle, I feel that this is a means to attracting gold diggers and fake people in general into your life.

Now, in terms of age range. I feel a guy in his early to mid 30s can still reasonably land a woman that is in her mid to late 20s. You'll find that those in this age range should generally be past the partying phase and will be more mature. One of the issues you may find though is that many of the women you'd be interested in will already be in a relationship. Contrary to what some may say on here, women aren't hanging around until 30 or later before finally settling down. It's possible to attract much younger women, late teens through early 20s, but these women would be a minority. Also, I don't really see how something like that would work beyond anything but a one night stand, fwb, etc.

I haven't been on a date in a very long time due to covid, but over the past 2-3 years I was getting numbers and first dates with women that ranged from 19 to my age or older, though almost all of them seemed to be around 23-25ish. I feel that this is a good age gap for a man in his late 20s through early 30s.

It's not really in your best interest to remain single well into your 30s and approaching your 40s. Most women are going to get locked down and you'll be left with fewer and fewer dating prospects. This has nothing to do with game or you as an individual, it is simply reality.

 

[sangheilios]

I know a couple of guys in their 50's who consistently had women in their low 30's and upper 20's in their life. Three come to mind who settled down with younger women long term, after having a fulfilling and varied love life.

Common thread for all of them? Endurance athletes

I actually know of a few men I met at the gym who were like this, them being in relationships with women who were much younger, I'm talking like 15-20 years difference. One of them was ironically an endurance athlete but the other I'm thinking of in particular has just been very fit his whole adult life. I personally feel that being in shape, especially in very good shape, is something that all men should strive for but once you get older, past 30s and up, I think it become a game changer.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Steroids. Not worth it.

Complaining is a cop out. Find out how far you can go with your own drive and motivation.