I don't. I've already been married. I see life in reverse from a lot of PUA types. Also only see my SMV going up, at least for a long while. I see some discussion of players just throwing in the towel and saying "well, everyone wants to settle down at some point, pair bond, whatever, might as well by the time you are 35-40 (or whenever)" Geez, that just sounds like coping for giving up and settling to me. We all talk about The Wall for women, but if you are a man I think for the most part you actively have to sabotage yourself not not be more attractive into your 40s or 50s than you were in your 20s. You might have to change your game up (which happens with time and technology regardless of your personal age and status) but I can't imagine following a masculine life trajectory (which to me means continuous improvement) and getting needier with women. Now, I've already been married and had kids, so I get the having kids part. But in retrospect I can't believe I wanted kids so badly. I never really believed in marriage but I thought at the time it would be best for having kids. if I'm being completely honest with myself and the forum, I got married out of neediness and scarcity - which of course killed my wife's attraction. I can't imagine ever wanting to be married again and I'm honest with that - have run away a interested women I know still have romantic fairytale delusions.