Why do men on sosuave want to get married?

[Spaz]

Nah everything was on point with me, so I spent this year correcting my weaknesses - I did well but you can't change who you ultimately are

Good for you, harness ur natural talents and ONLY THEN u hv the potential to be NOT just good enough BUT GREAT at it.

Murk here is an expressive just like Mrgoodstuff.

 

[Spaz]

How others label me is irrelevant to me. If you believe it, it's your truth, and I won't argue with you because that would be waste of time.

"Intellectualism" is just another -ism. I don't subscribe to them and don't promote myself as such. And I don't worry about others wanting to put in me in a box - that's your thing, that's cool, but I don't care.

If that also makes me passive, see paragraph 2.

Spaz, if you live your life worried about this stuff you'll build yourself a man-made prison...because you'll be preoccupied with how you see others and how they see you, if you aren't already. I'm not saying you are, just that it's a waste of time and head space. You won't be truly free.

Without true freedom, attempts to "dominate" socially will be seen for what they are: a front. So I recommend you work on total self-acceptance, or as Shakespeare said, be true to yourself. Then you'll find you have no reason to brag about yourself. People will simply sense it.

Good luck, grasshopper.

PS, I was busting your balls earlier, you took it well. So you're on your way.

I do not live my life worried abt this stuff, I ACTUALLY live it, that's how I am not just good with customers or my staff but I am extremely GREAT at it.

When I meet a customer I profile them beforehand and from there I already know how to deal with them.

Similarly when I deal with my staff, I DO NOT deal with them all the SAME, I deal with them as individuals who has unique personalities.

If you hv this skill set, you hv power.

If you hv power, you hv influence.

If you hv influence, you will be able to mold a world very much to ur liking.

You assume too much abt me because you do not know how to accurately profile me.

If I know how you think, I not only will know ur personality but I will also know ur past, ur current status and also ur future WITHOUT you ever telling me anything abt urself.

 

[Spaz]

Love will put wind in my sails and add to the motion i have. Whereas fighting and having women play games and compete slows me down and puts my focus on things i don't care about at the time.

Yes, for you, my advice is, ur love like no women could ever provide, because of that, you need to put that extra "love" into something else other then just women, put it into dancing, musical instruments, acting, stage comedy or acting, anything that's art related - that's ur natural talents, that's what actually makes you really happy.

Remember, there is nothing wrong with being a passive man.

A passive man can also be assertive.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes, for you, my advice is, ur love like no women could ever provide, because of that, you need to put that extra "love" into something else other then just women, put it into dancing, musical instruments, acting, stage comedy or acting, anything that's art related - that's ur natural talents, that's what actually makes you really happy.

Remember, there is nothing wrong with being a passive man.

A passive man can also be assertive.

Ive been able to put my love into my activities and goals. Its powerful. Then add a woman it seems to nearly always diminish. She absorbs enough attention so im not as sharp. Im not desperate for a babe but it would be great to have one that believed in me to her bones and love flowed strongly. Most are position to control a man imho.

 

[Lookatu]

A romantic relationship is based on commitment. But marriage as a human social construct, is an obligation. And obligation ruins romance. Hence, all the divorces. Marriage is human's primitive attempt to experience true romance - which has no obligation, but is based on daily commitment.

After thousands of years, humans still have not evolved enough to experience an actual romantic relationship that isn't based on neediness and neuroticism.

Obligation is based on fear, not love.

Some "marriages" last months, while other romantic relationships that don't need a piece of paper to validate it lasts a lifetime. Therefore, marriage is irrelevant when it comes to romance - or even a family. You shouldn't need a piece of paper to tell you to take care of your offspring. Humans are so damn primitive that they need a court system to make sure adults live up to their responsibilities.

In many ways we are still a primitive species, from healthcare, to romance, government, how we treat each other and our elders, how we educate our young, the list goes on.

EVERY SINGLE Dude should save this for later if they ever find themselves in an LTR but don't subscribe to marriage. This is going to be hard to refute by females. I'm sure they'll try to hamster some irrational excuse but just have them keep reading this.

 

[Spaz]

Does that happen from the driver side window or once you've hopped in the back seat?

You need to lighten up, dude. You're wound way too tight. That's my "profile" of you - free of charge.

It happens when I entertain customers.

The 1st rule in sales is not doing a sale but building relationships.

The same applies to everyone else.

I'm telling you this because you are trying too hard to be someone you can't be.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

EVERY SINGLE Dude should save this for later if they ever find themselves in an LTR but don't subscribe to marriage. This is going to be hard to refute by females. I'm sure they'll try to hamster some irrational excuse but just have them keep reading this.

He really nailed down an excellent reason not to do it.

 

[RickTheToad]

Being alone is fine. I have no issues with being along. The GF is working from her home and she's going batty; and annoying at times. Females are more social the males. Males usually do not have issues with peace, quiet and staying busy. Females minds wonder and thus they can become unstable due to boredom. They need social interactions are necessary for females to remain somewhat calm. This COVID-19 is something most people living today have not experienced; especially in the US/CA/AU/Europe. Asian countries experienced something like this a decade ago, but it was no where as out of control as this one is.

As for marriage, I've already shown 2 ladies the door. One got so tired of dating, she just became a single mom in March. The other had a child last month and will get married to a short bald dude in October. Females are erratic and are controlled by their emotions. Males, in general, are not. Though, as Gen. Z and future males become more feminine, that might change.

 

[RickTheToad]

I agree. My recent ex BF’s greatest fear? Being alone in his old age. It’s a very real fear and a visceral one.

Honestly I think women as a general rule manage loneliness and being alone better than men do. Perhaps that’s by design. After all women tend to outlive their man.

Most dudes at that time are too sick of the bulls hit they've put up with for decades, they just are looking for a reason to check out. They give up and thus give in to the crypt keeper. Dudes who do not marry or just stick in LTRs tend to live longer healthier lives.

 

[BeExcellent]

Most dudes at that time are too sick of the bulls hit they've put up with for decades, they just are looking for a reason to check out. They give up and thus give in to the crypt keeper. Dudes who do not marry or just stick in LTRs tend to live longer healthier lives.

Actually if you look at research into the matter you’ll find an irrefutable amount of data that shows married men have the greatest longevity. There are various debates as to why that is but it is accepted as factual based on many long term studies.

It is also true even then, that wives tend to outlive their husbands.

 

[RickTheToad]

Actually if you look at research into the matter you’ll find an irrefutable amount of data that shows married men have the greatest longevity. There are various debates as to why that is but it is accepted as factual based on many long term studies.

It is also true even then, that wives tend to outlive their husbands.

It really depends.

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[redskinsfan92]

Actually if you look at research into the matter you’ll find an irrefutable amount of data that shows married men have the greatest longevity. There are various debates as to why that is but it is accepted as factual based on many long term studies.

It is also true even then, that wives tend to outlive their husbands.

Actually, there is nothing about LEGAL marriage that makes men live longer. Those same studies showed divorced men die younger, which is statistically the likely outcome of a man marrying ANY woman.

 

[Lookatu]

Actually, there is nothing about LEGAL marriage that makes men live longer. Those same studies showed divorced men die younger, which is statistically the likely outcome of a man marrying ANY woman.

I believe the statistics about married men living longer were from the previous generation and doesn't apply to the current marriage dynamics that exists today. I would tend to agree if you got married in the 60's, 70's, and even 80's. Those were the pre-fem wives that actually added value to a marriage and took care of each other. It makes sense if a wife is giving you everything you need as a good wife and even taking care of you when you're sick or down but that can be pretty rare these days.

My neighbor that was 95yo just passed away last year but I do know he had a great relationship with his wife and his wife did everything she could to take care of him right up to his death. I don't think you'd find a lot of that these days though...

 

[bat soup]

They probably just want to be legally obligated to hand over half of their wealth to some lazy kunt.

 

[metalwater]

I believe the statistics about married men living longer were from the previous generation and doesn't apply to the current marriage dynamics that exists today. I would tend to agree if you got married in the 60's, 70's, and even 80's. Those were the pre-fem wives that actually added value to a marriage and took care of each other. It makes sense if a wife is giving you everything you need as a good wife and even taking care of you when you're sick or down but that can be pretty rare these days.

My neighbor that was 95yo just passed away last year but I do know he had a great relationship with his wife and his wife did everything she could to take care of him right up to his death. I don't think you'd find a lot of that these days though...

not so much the 80s; maybe the 70s and before.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Marriage is a deplorably unreasonable choice as a man; the system is against you in every way.

Even if you have the pre-nup, if you have kids, your payments will be based on your lifestyle, so then you need to also adjust your lifestyle to a more bare bones type before you ever meet the chick, lest your finances be predated upon.

I don't think most men on SoSauve want to enter in the most legally significant choice of their lives, but rather want the benefits of marriage without the liability.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Is the modern legal system in the West tilted heavily against men, in general, and White men, in particular? Sure.

Should men marry? Only if they're PLANNING on reproducing.

Any man who deliberately impregnates a woman, and then deliberately leaves her to raise his offspring, either alone or with another man, should be castrated.

"Why are you whiteknighting, ShePays?!" (The Incel-MGTOW-PUA nexus choir asks)

Grow some balls. Marry or don't; not everyone of every generation does...nor should everyone. Have children or don't; not everyone of every generation does...nor should everyone. But, IF you're going to have children, raise them under YOUR roof, or don't have them!

You want to have a harem of 10 wives and raise 100 kids, under one big roof, or on a compound? That's fine with me. But, if you want to "father" one child, and leave him(or her) to be raised by his single mother, you're a piece of shiit, and should just spend the money for the vasectomy, because YOU are the problem with modern Western Civilization. YOU are responsible for the decline.

I don't care if you wanna your kids with their mother, and die with her, of old age, holding hands. I don't care if you want to raise your kids with a house full of sister wives. I don't care if you want to raise your kids as a bachelor father, and pay their mother/s to go away, or just pay a good lawyer to TAKE your kids from them...or "kidnap" your kids, and move to a Pacific Island; I don't care. All of those guys have my full respect.

Who doesn't have my respect? Any piece of shiit who knocks a girl up, because he thinks it makes him a man, or that it will force her to marry him, or any other weak pathetic motive, only proving he has inferior genes, and shouldn't be reproducing, in the first place.

I do not recommend LEGAL marriage for reproducing. Only longterm relationship with a dna test confirmation.

 

[Spaz]

As far as I know, it isn't LEGAL, anywhere in the West, to have multiple wives. I don't care about LEGAL marriage. I care that FATHERS raise their own children, under their own roofs, with or without their mothers. Restore the Patriarchy!

Only if those kids are male, it's highly essential that a boy grows up under the influence of his father then under his mother, I can't stress enough of the inherent dangers a young boy is being fed on a daily basis the narratives of the feminine world.

To me, this is a form of cruelty that mothers unleashed upon their young boys because they do for their own benefit and him growing up screwed.

Any boy that's 5 years and above MUST have his father's guidance 100%.

 

[Lookatu]

Single mothers do a terrible job of raising girls, too.

This. Plus the mother grooms her girl(s) to be like feminists or her which is even worse and would perpetuate the same typical female thought processes that we currently have going on, not to mention a one sided view.

My personal opinion is that regardless of female or male, both kids need both types of nurturing from both sexes. This ensures the kid will turn out to be balanced and well rounded in all areas.

 

[Spaz]

Single mothers do a terrible job of raising girls, too.

Yes they do, just as in many cases single dads do a terrible job at raising their sons.

But there's a possibility that SOME might grow up productive, either a daughter by her mother or a son by his father.

My point being, no mother can train a boy into a man - NONE.

Her only guidance on what she thinks on how to be a man = how she wants to be treated by a man.

This is how boys from single mommies or those who grew up disproportionately influenced by mommy WILL fvck up when they're in their teens and well into adulthood.

Just take a look of 1 of our members here, Mr. Corrector, never talks abt his dad, but he will every now and then mentions his mommy, in glowing terms. Even his marriage is arranged by mommy, and now his latest delusions of doomsday is from mommy, he's basically researching through Google, anything remotely possible to prop up mommy's dreams.

I bet he's still staying with mommy too.

Do any man here wants his own flesh and blood, a descendent from a successful line of blood males to end up like that?

A perpetual mindless slave to mommy dearest.

Where's the pride?

Where's the legacy?

There's only shame.