Is she cheating

[Buzzman]

Why all these pages on just assumptions and theories?

OP, like I said, just get the phone logs from your wireless carrier. It's clear that she's using her main number to contact people and not a burner account. Look at the phone numbers and see if there are one's that aren't familiar to you or ones where there are a lot of texting frequency.

The ones that aren't familiar, just do a reverse phone search on a site like: https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/ to find out about the person
This whole process should literally take less than 1/2 hour unless she has a long list.

It just boils down to good ol fashion detective work.

Good point. I will. Thx

 

[Buzzman]

Does she regularly hang out with Gabby and Diana?

Not really. Both have a lot going on...she always complains that they are never available

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That's more true for 16 year old than for 32 year olds.

Bama might be able to take the Patriots, on any given Sunday, but that doesn't mean they're even close to being in the same league.

A charming 5 guy, who takes home a drunk 9 from the club one night, shouldn't start thinking that's his league. Most likely, she'll ghost him the next day.

Big difference.

The 6 girl who bangs the 8,9 and 10 guys shouldn't thinks she can have one.

 

[HyenaPrince]

The 6 girl who bangs the 8,9 and 10 guys shouldn't thinks she can have one.

You underestimate how horny men are. If she's manipulative enough she can keep an 8, probably even a 9.

 

[redskinsfan92]

"Hell, even ugly women get more attention than an average looking man."

Thats funny and so true

All women are capable of cheating. Not all will of course.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You underestimate how horny men are. If she's manipulative enough she can keep an 8, probably even a 9.

Man thats not even fair. So many rules and laws dont apply to that gender.

 

[HyenaPrince]

Man thats not even fair. So many rules and laws dont apply to that gender.

True, brother, true.

I'd formulate it like this: (options x looks) + boundaries = immunity against low-quality behavior.

Options: the options you have in the dating scene.
Boundaries: the boundaries you've set for women, so they know how to behave.
Looks: no-brainer.

Options and looks can and do vary, but your boundaries don't. That's why I've set them as a fixed value. It's important to have boundaries in place, so you don't stray off your ideals and your path. They are what some people call a no bull**** or zero tolerance policy.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

True, brother, true.

I'd formulate it like this: (options x looks) + boundaries = immunity against low-quality behavior.

Options: the options you have in the dating scene.
Boundaries: the boundaries you've set for women, so they know how to behave.
Looks: no-brainer.

Options and looks can and do vary, but your boundaries don't. That's why I've set them as a fixed value. It's important to have boundaries in place, so you don't stray off your ideals and your path. They are what some people call a no bull**** or zero tolerance policy.

You almost have to have a zero tolerance policy. Women talk and will share how you can be exploited.

 

[HyenaPrince]

You almost have to have a zero tolerance policy. Women talk and will share how you can be exploited.

Yes. I think it's important to point out that a zero tolerance policy can be communicated in many different ways. Many guys here confuse it with being ice cold and shut the woman down as soon as she seems to be disrespectful or crossing some lines. You can deliver your boundaries smooth as well.

It's unnecessary to feel the urgent need to let her know she can't f*ck with you. This will scare her and probably many other women off. If you stay calm while making clear you could be gone any minute, you establish an almost indestructible power dynamic on your part.

 

[Nik W]

If you’re asking the answer is yes. You already had suspicions.

 

[Buzzman]

My point on SMV is that you aren't worth what you are, but what you can get. That's the nature of any market. Your dirty socks aren't worth a million dollars, just because one rich pervert is willing to give you that much for them. If two or more bidders are willing to pay that much for your dirty socks, though, then you can claim that as their market value, but you still shouldn't expect to get that much, as a rule.

What I was getting at was that women can end up divorced and miserable, because the "quality" of the men pursuing them for sex misleads them as to their actual SMV. A man may think he rates 9s, because he's a powerful Hollywood producer, who mounts starving wannabe starlets, on a weekly basis; but, the truth is that those women are all physically repulsed by him, and spends hours in the shower, and years in therapy, just trying to get his stench off of their bodies, and the image of him mounting them out of their minds. So, is his SMV actually determined by what he can get? No. All his conquests deeply regret submitting to him.

That may be an extreme example, but it illustrates the point. I had a very odd-looking, rail thin friend. He did very well with women who were waaaay more attractive than he was, because he was very aggressive and relentless. He had very few repeat performances, despite his success, though, because the women he pursued saw him as beneath them. They just gave in to him. They certainly didn't want to have his babies, and tie themselves permanently to him. They didn't even want to spend the night.

In the context of this thread, SMV is particularly tied to replacement value. Can the OP replace his wife, and trade up? Can his wife replace him, and trade up? What can they each to expect to get, in a second marriage, if they end this one?

The wife can probably get a different diick every night. That's not even in question, but can she replace her husband with one of higher value...better looking, more masculine, higher earner, high social status, willing to marry her? How many of those guys is she likely to find, if she leaves her husband?

What about the OP? What kind of woman can he reliably expect to replace his wife with? A more loyal and honest one, he should hope...if nothing else.

Ultimately, though, a man's goal in marriage is sex, and a woman's goal in sex is marriage. For men, the sex act is complete when we expell life from our bodies, in the form of sperm; but, for women, the sex act isn't really complete until she expells life from her body, in the form a fertilized egg...nine months later.

What does a man want in a woman? He wants a woman he would WANT to marry, whether he wants to get married or not.

What does a woman want from a man? She wants a man whose children she WANTS to have, whether she wants to have children or not.

That's why I say that a woman's actual SMV isn't determined by the quality of men willing to have sex with her, but by the quality of men she finds acceptable who actually want to marry her.

A man's actual SMV, conversely, isn't determined by the quality of women he can get into bed, but by the quality of women who experience the primal urge to be impregnated by him.

Damn

 

[Jack12345]

the truth is that those women are all physically repulsed by him, and spend hours in the shower, and years in therapy, just trying to get his stench off of their bodies, and the image of him mounting them out of their minds. So, is his SMV actually determined by what he can get? No. All his conquests deeply regret submitting to him.

Same with men sleeping with women who are less attractive than them. only difference that men directed by their penis and women by delusion

 

[Jack12345]

I'll take your word for that, since I never submitted to a sexually aggressive woman I didn't find attractive. That's not to say that I didn't regret sleeping with certain women, anyway...for different reasons.

I worked with guys who were more or less coerced(not actually physically) into sleeping with their boss. She tried the same thing with me, but I begged off because I told her she reminded me of my sister, and that I considered her one. To her credit, she actually treated me better, after that, than she did her boy toys. So, no regrets there.

growing on streets you deal with all kind of nasty stuff

But I dont even speak for myself. Every business area has a spot with ho0kers for men who trying to achieve the dream, but just not there yet.. easy path to take, harder to find the exit

 

[Jack12345]

sleeping with their boss. She tried the same thing with me, but I begged off because I told her she reminded me of my sister, and that I considered her one. To her credit, she actually treated me better, after that, than she did her boy toys. So, no regrets there.

Omg. I dont know where you worked, but ur boss was a needy one

 

[Jack12345]

She ran a marketing company

Guessed something in that area
Funny story, upside down
little bit scary, at least she looked ok according to u

had a tall masculine sport teacher with deep voice and short haircut in 5th grade who would call me drug addict, guess she was into little skinny boys, I could imagine her in this position for the perfect satanic story

 

[Buzzman]

OP. My take.
She said "if you can"
If you gave me 100$ id put 80 on shes cheating with a guy in a relationship too.
Ive been that guy so....take it for what its worth i would not confront her.
Play it cool.

Always always always guage her acttraction levels in you LTRs.
It becomes a RP subroutine of your frame. Being covert but NOT obsessed will serve you very well.

If you do find out she is. Dont lose your shyt, dont cry, dont whine. Next her immediately.
Your power will increase and hers will decrease.

Yeh.. the if you can part was what i noticed first...

A typical textvto her gfs reads...
Hey girlie . Want to go get starbucks...

 

[Buzzman]

OP. My take.
She said "if you can"
If you gave me 100$ id put 80 on shes cheating with a guy in a relationship too.
Ive been that guy so....take it for what its worth i would not confront her.
Play it cool.

Always always always guage her acttraction levels in you LTRs.
It becomes a RP subroutine of your frame. Being covert but NOT obsessed will serve you very well.

If you do find out she is. Dont lose your shyt, dont cry, dont whine. Next her immediately.
Your power will increase and hers will decrease.

Yeh. The if you can part is what i noticed first. U only say that if there is a reason u cant. Like having a spouse...

Otherwise. It would be. Call me. Or shed call the gf.

There would be no. ... if you can. Yeh. That seems like the make or break for me.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

OP. My take.
She said "if you can"
If you gave me 100$ id put 80 on shes cheating with a guy in a relationship too.
Ive been that guy so....take it for what its worth i would not confront her.
Play it cool.

Always always always guage her acttraction levels in you LTRs.
It becomes a RP subroutine of your frame. Being covert but NOT obsessed will serve you very well.

If you do find out she is. Dont lose your shyt, dont cry, dont whine. Next her immediately.
Your power will increase and hers will decrease.

Why are you strongly sure the other guy is in a relationship?

 

[Buzzman]

Why are you strongly sure the other guy is in a relationship?

The if you can does it for me

 

[mrgoodstuff]

The if you can does it for me

"If you can find out?"