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Don Juan
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Hi,
my wife (mid 30, hot as hell) and I (42) are together for more than 12 years. We have 4 kids. Educated, good jobs, nice house, luxury cars, etc.
You can find a description of our marriage in Rollo Tomassis 'Rational Male':
Hot party girl with lots of 'experience' (both good and some very traumatic) looks for serious LTR/marriage with kids. Finds handsome, intelligent and socially compatible nice guy and approaches him (not vice versa). They start a relationship. She desperately wants to marry him as fast as possible and wants to have kids at all costs. He's a 30 year old serial monogamist and had nice Disney girlfriends before that. While she worked as a stripper for some time, he is blue-pill as hell. He's in her frame right from the start (albeit he's 30 and she's 22).
He comes from a nice family, so does she. Both fathers are 100% blue-pill Betas. In both families, the mothers are in control. The fathers always give in to the moods of the mothers to avoid drama. Life is peaceful (and probably sexless) in both families.
She tries really hard to be the best wife material she can be. Totally cares about his and her families. Does a lot of chores, constantly talks about marrying, secretly stops taking birth control pills. After two years, they marry. Over the next seven years, they get 4 kids. He has a career job. Management level. Rather boring, but good income and working hours that are compatible with having a family life. Stays around and helps her whenever he can. Abandoned a probably more interesting career path for that. Family and kids come first... She has some part time jobs that she can more or less handle from home in a few hours a day. Sometimes more, mostly less.
As a prototypical AFC, he puts her on a pedestral, tries to fulfill all her wishes and fails every **** test. Becomes even more beta/needy/nerdy. He is a manager/decider in his job, but asks her almost verbally for permission for family decisions on a daily basis (e.g. which oatmeal to buy for the daughter). Wants to discuss everything in detail and has the emotional intelligence of Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory.
Life with kids is demanding and so is his job. He'subconsciously disappointed that she doesn't admire him although he's such a good provider. So he becomes lazy: No real vision, less sports and activities, 25 pound overweight, drinks regularly, watches a lot of porn. Helps with the kids and chores around the house. No passion. But balance and a stable life with a good economic and social status (see: parents above). The frame is hers.
Sex ranges from bad to acceptable. He was conditioned by his former Disney girlfriends to be nice in bed. She doesn't want to appear as a slut. Refuses every variation from the norm. He performs badly, she becomes less and less interested. He's insecure because he obviously can't keep up with her former lovers. So, he watches more porn, becomes more beta, insecure and needy. Sex becomes worse and even less frequent. Vicious circle.
On a provider level, everything is great. All through the years, they tell each other more or less daily 'I love you', they cuddle, they have a 'nice' life. They have scheduled (boring) sex and uninspired *******s. They have established efficient mechanisms for managing the kids and the household duties. Vacations are nice, food is good. Life is boring, passion is gone.
This spring, he senses that there's something going on. Indications, albeit no proofs, of infidelity or at least planned infidelity. He sets half-hearted and fuzzy boundaries that she ignores. He doesn't want to see the obvious as he feels that his SMV compared to hers currently is too low to win this battle. Better no confrontation than one that he would probably lose.
But this triggers something in him. After being whiny for a couple of days, he finally gets his act together and starts to get in shape. Works his ass off. Reads about red pill and books from Rollo Tomassi, Athol Kay and some others. Has kind of a revelation and realizes what an AFC he was all the time. Quits watching porn, drinking alcohol and eating junk. Gets up in the middle of the night and works out 3-5 hours each day. He won't give up without a fight: Lifting heavier than ever, running, starting martial arts. No excuses. Heart of a warrior. Loses 25 pounds in 10 weeks, runs a marathon, has a sixpack and the most athletic body he's ever had. Total body transformation. **** test frequency decrease, sex frequency increases.
Then, he finds out that she's had a **** buddy for three months. At that time, the affair was already over. She first denies, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming. So, she confesses. And other infidelities over the years as well (before and after the marriage). He is not surprised, because this is exactly what a man gets according to The Rational Male if he behaves like he did.
Looks like she was/still is in kind of a eat-pray-love stage of her life now that the kids are not that demanding anymore (or we have more efficient routines for handling them, respectively). Her job allows that she invests a lot of her daytime in self-improvement, shopping nice outfits, staying in shape and developing her instagram profile (with several thousand followers who tell her on a daily basis how hot she is).
[to be continued in the first comment]
my wife (mid 30, hot as hell) and I (42) are together for more than 12 years. We have 4 kids. Educated, good jobs, nice house, luxury cars, etc.
You can find a description of our marriage in Rollo Tomassis 'Rational Male':
Hot party girl with lots of 'experience' (both good and some very traumatic) looks for serious LTR/marriage with kids. Finds handsome, intelligent and socially compatible nice guy and approaches him (not vice versa). They start a relationship. She desperately wants to marry him as fast as possible and wants to have kids at all costs. He's a 30 year old serial monogamist and had nice Disney girlfriends before that. While she worked as a stripper for some time, he is blue-pill as hell. He's in her frame right from the start (albeit he's 30 and she's 22).
He comes from a nice family, so does she. Both fathers are 100% blue-pill Betas. In both families, the mothers are in control. The fathers always give in to the moods of the mothers to avoid drama. Life is peaceful (and probably sexless) in both families.
She tries really hard to be the best wife material she can be. Totally cares about his and her families. Does a lot of chores, constantly talks about marrying, secretly stops taking birth control pills. After two years, they marry. Over the next seven years, they get 4 kids. He has a career job. Management level. Rather boring, but good income and working hours that are compatible with having a family life. Stays around and helps her whenever he can. Abandoned a probably more interesting career path for that. Family and kids come first... She has some part time jobs that she can more or less handle from home in a few hours a day. Sometimes more, mostly less.
As a prototypical AFC, he puts her on a pedestral, tries to fulfill all her wishes and fails every **** test. Becomes even more beta/needy/nerdy. He is a manager/decider in his job, but asks her almost verbally for permission for family decisions on a daily basis (e.g. which oatmeal to buy for the daughter). Wants to discuss everything in detail and has the emotional intelligence of Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory.
Life with kids is demanding and so is his job. He'subconsciously disappointed that she doesn't admire him although he's such a good provider. So he becomes lazy: No real vision, less sports and activities, 25 pound overweight, drinks regularly, watches a lot of porn. Helps with the kids and chores around the house. No passion. But balance and a stable life with a good economic and social status (see: parents above). The frame is hers.
Sex ranges from bad to acceptable. He was conditioned by his former Disney girlfriends to be nice in bed. She doesn't want to appear as a slut. Refuses every variation from the norm. He performs badly, she becomes less and less interested. He's insecure because he obviously can't keep up with her former lovers. So, he watches more porn, becomes more beta, insecure and needy. Sex becomes worse and even less frequent. Vicious circle.
On a provider level, everything is great. All through the years, they tell each other more or less daily 'I love you', they cuddle, they have a 'nice' life. They have scheduled (boring) sex and uninspired *******s. They have established efficient mechanisms for managing the kids and the household duties. Vacations are nice, food is good. Life is boring, passion is gone.
This spring, he senses that there's something going on. Indications, albeit no proofs, of infidelity or at least planned infidelity. He sets half-hearted and fuzzy boundaries that she ignores. He doesn't want to see the obvious as he feels that his SMV compared to hers currently is too low to win this battle. Better no confrontation than one that he would probably lose.
But this triggers something in him. After being whiny for a couple of days, he finally gets his act together and starts to get in shape. Works his ass off. Reads about red pill and books from Rollo Tomassi, Athol Kay and some others. Has kind of a revelation and realizes what an AFC he was all the time. Quits watching porn, drinking alcohol and eating junk. Gets up in the middle of the night and works out 3-5 hours each day. He won't give up without a fight: Lifting heavier than ever, running, starting martial arts. No excuses. Heart of a warrior. Loses 25 pounds in 10 weeks, runs a marathon, has a sixpack and the most athletic body he's ever had. Total body transformation. **** test frequency decrease, sex frequency increases.
Then, he finds out that she's had a **** buddy for three months. At that time, the affair was already over. She first denies, but the evidence is pretty overwhelming. So, she confesses. And other infidelities over the years as well (before and after the marriage). He is not surprised, because this is exactly what a man gets according to The Rational Male if he behaves like he did.
Looks like she was/still is in kind of a eat-pray-love stage of her life now that the kids are not that demanding anymore (or we have more efficient routines for handling them, respectively). Her job allows that she invests a lot of her daytime in self-improvement, shopping nice outfits, staying in shape and developing her instagram profile (with several thousand followers who tell her on a daily basis how hot she is).
[to be continued in the first comment]