there it is.The point of contention is not his 48 lays in half a year. I’ve certainly come close to that in the past.
The point of contention that raised suspicion is his belief in “advanced game” like being witty, quick on his feet, and knowing how to dance. And his initial post referenced club game during a pandemic.
First of all, I want to say I used to believe in "advanced" game myself. I was a PUA. I was one of the original PUAs. I used to amog and steal girls from RSD students every weekend. When I was a PUA, the goal of every PUA was to become a "natural." We HATED the fact that we needed game to figure out what Chads knew by instinct. We always felt like we were one step behind, trying to backwards engineer the naturals.
When I was in my hot streaks, I didn't attribute my success to "advanced game." It was the OPPOSITE. I attributed my success to being unconscious, effortless, and no longer giving a damn what works with women. This is the pinnacle of frame.
I was able to escape the pickup matrix altogether where nerds believe high value men have to seduce women.
If anything, I went back to my nerdy pickup friends and said "Hey guys. I'm 100% gameless now. There are no thought processes in my head when I am interacting with women. I can no longer write field reports because I don't remember what I am saying. I've lost track of how many lays I've had this year. I've become......a flawless natural. Every thing I do is perfection now and requires zero thinking. Suck it, you losers!! Hahahahahahah."
And then all of my nerdy pickup friends would be astonished like "How?!?!?! What is your secret? How did you manage to transcend being a nerdy PUA? Is it EVEN possible to become a natural if you weren't born one?"
That's what it's like to learn game. Your goal is to become unconscious, 100% natural and non-contrived, and completely effortless. That's the goal of an ACTUAL Pua. The goal is not advanced game. The goal is no game. Infinite validation with 0% effort.
That's how I know this guy is a phony. He thinks the final form is being a master of game. The real PUAs in the field know the final form is to be 100% unconscious just like the naturals they look up to. I've met hundreds of PUAs and that was the one thing they prided themselves on. To be able to forget the 10,000 techniques they had to learn and just be able to do everything unconsciously.
In other words, to get out of their fvcking heads.
Of course this was back in the 2000's. You new cats who got into the game late got it completely backwards. You think the goal is to accumulate as much useless game knowledge as possible in your head just to get a single lay. I put you guys even below the original PUAs. At least they had some sense to them and knew what the final form looked like. You new cats aren't even at the PUA level. (Even though I have low regards for PUAs).
You are generation Y wannabe seducers with no actual direction.
final form is 100%unconsciousnatural