Have men finally given up or gone "MGTOW" to balance the sexes on OLD?

[Lynx nkaf]

Not just one, All of em in my experience were pretty jaded and shallow, who donned nose-rings, especially the younger ones. They tended to laugh and be silly a Lot more, verrry stupid, and into drugs (they thought 'I' was "in to drugs" like I said. Once they figured out after I'd fvcked them that I wasn't, I was dropped. I've been accused of being on drugs when I am not Many times in my life, not just by women, and Usually by people who themselves did drugs and thus categorized or ascertained that I did drugs because of the behavior I was showin. I can act the part and they can't tell if I am or I ain't.

stay away from the girls dressing like cows(noserings)

 

[RickTheToad]

I think you'll have some dudes that still want a relationship and will go through the dog and pony show, get married and play the odds. You'll have other dudes want a family, but refuse to sign a legal contract with the State. Others who have learned about the games the ladies play and have wisened and play it right back at them. Finally, you have the losers who instead of make themselves the best they can be, b itch and moan about how unfair the dating world is.

Let's face it, there are options if a dude just puts in a little it of work, have a good career (for himself), dress nicely, eat healthy and excercise a bit. Instead, they go on the forums with other losers and they have a b itch and moan party. Just my thoughts.

 

[lamath]

I think you'll have some dudes that still want a relationship and will go through the dog and pony show, get married and play the odds. You'll have other dudes want a family, but refuse to sign a legal contract with the State. Others who have learned about the games the ladies play and have wisened and play it right back at them.

What i see is younger men getting caught not knowing better since top smv and experience level is only reach when they get older.



I think that in the long run if men in general stop using OLD, social media etc, women attitude will end up improving.
Men need to get rid of that thirst.

 

[AttackFormation]

Finally, you have the losers who instead of make themselves the best they can be, b itch and moan about how unfair the dating world is.

Let's face it, there are options if a dude just puts in a little it of work, have a good career (for himself), dress nicely, eat healthy and excercise a bit. Instead, they go on the forums with other losers and they have a b itch and moan party. Just my thoughts.

Disposition toward self-pity and the comfort it offers contributes to this, but I think the larger part is because of the equality and sameness narrative in the culture concurrent with an absence of education for becoming a well developed man.

Men are taught that men and women are equal, even the same, and then get angry when they get out into the sexual marketplace and find out that's not the case. On top of that, they aren't taught what they need in order to be viable as a man in the sexual marketplace - pointers on how to behave with women and especially how to not behave (supplicative thirst, simping, overcompensating to impress or entertain them, thinking they don't want sex like you do, thinking looks don't or shouldn't matter to women, thinking if they just say or do the "right thing" (such as simping) then they should get sex rather than understanding and accepting that reality is outside of their full control), dealing with rejection, socially lubricative activities like dancing, the importance of having hobbies they enjoy that can also have women in them instead of both wasting their life on stuff like online dating and antisocial media and then complaining on top of that, having a good posture, making sure they have good hygiene and grooming, teaching them how the stuff in the gym works.

Males need to develop into men, but they aren't nurtured into doing so. That hits both genders since women and desirable men. If men are turned into losers, women will feel they've lost too.

 

[RickTheToad]

What i see is younger men getting caught not knowing better since top smv and experience level is only reach when they get older.



I think that in the long run if men in general stop using OLD, social media etc, women attitude will end up improving.
Men need to get rid of that thirst.

Agreed.

Disposition toward self-pity and the comfort it offers contributes to this, but I think the larger part is because of the equality and sameness narrative in the culture concurrent with an absence of education for becoming a well developed man.

Men are taught that men and women are equal, even the same, and then get angry when they get out into the sexual marketplace and find out that's not the case. On top of that, they aren't taught what they need in order to be viable as a man in the sexual marketplace, an education that should be general for the public. Pointers on how to flirt and especially how not to flirt, dealing with rejection, socially lubricative activities like dancing, the importance of having hobbies they enjoy that can also have women in them instead of both wasting their life on stuff like online dating and antisocial media and then complaining on top of that, having a good posture, making sure they have good hygiene and grooming, teaching them how the stuff in the gym works.

Males need to develop into men, but they aren't nurtured into do so. That hits both genders since women and desirable men. If men are turned into losers, women will feel they've lost too.

Agreed.

Social media and these smartphones have made dudes more anti-social than social. As for the ladies, since they can get the attention from social media. they do not have to do the crazy dates unless they want drinks, food or are bored in real life. Dudes, with the help of Youtube, Google search and forums such as this are waking up. It's only a matter of time until things level out.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I think mgtow is bang on about marriage in the modern era is a no fly zone. To each their own for every man. Here in the uk, its a dumpster fire and likely worse then America.

Lmao not a chance bro, our divorce laws single-handedly created the richest woman in the world for a time. All through divorce. Bogus af. Even a former member here on SS (before he had his account deleted) said he always thought us Americans posters were “a bit daft” till he had one of his plates take a vacation to the States for 3 months and come back a whole new person lmao

Plus, you lot still have like 3.5 times the marriage rate as we do, not even close to the amount of jadedness and delusion that we have here. I can’t imagine doing pickup over here anymore, you pretty much always need to find common ground. It’s not even a numbers game anymore, just ask @Mike32ct and he’ll tell you that pickup is damn near dead.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Lol there you go after marriage again. They don't always go badly. Sure evidence of disaster is out there but so is success.
Marriage can maintain seduction. And there is a whole dimension on top of that. Problem is that when guys are live in and married they see their partner way to much and don't let sexual tension cycle.
Its fck fck until its wore out. Focus on yourself, stay fit and attractive and above all else "social and fun" and your LTRs can be fulfilling and long.
Keep her submissive and if it does not work out then replace her if things go south.
Have an exit and buffer against the damage.
Ive said many times. Marrying any woman from N america is culturally dangerous. Odds against you. I would not be married had i not met a homegrown Asian that thinks young women should know how to cook and do chores and had a father figure growing up. If not i would just date and spin. My .02

That was no slight of hand or neg.

String mate, grown men do grown men things. You do you.

I am from the nuclear family. My parents are still lovingly married X amount of years and counting. What marriage is and what it was don't coincide.

Clarey was on the rant about LTR and women thinking it means pie eating contests. I use to troll another forum with before and after ebaum marriage pics. Pics were tragedy on steriods. The only exercise women when married do is fork from the plate to her mouth. Clarey ended off saying western women (i include the uk) love food more than men.

I was saying to @nicksaiz65 that rollo had a podcast on Vox and male archetyped.


I subscribe to the sigma (unknowingly). I am not in the club or corporate world trying to AMOG. I am not fixing marriage or SMP. I am knocking dumpty off her pedestal. I am pillaging through the dumpster fire that is modern Dating and watching the ****ing world burn. Outside family, mah, pah, outside my tribe, the world can burn.

I am enjoying the decline. Similar to Tate, men who still subscribe to the old world dating contract of marriage and monogamy best adopt scorch earth. If she leaves, set the house on fire and every dollar before bank rolling her *** dumpster shenanigans.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

What i see is younger men getting caught not knowing better since top smv and experience level is only reach when they get older.


I think that in the long run if men in general stop using OLD, social media etc, women attitude will end up improving.
Men need to get rid of that thirst.

I double down on cold approach during pandemic lol. Here in the UK, a lot of foreign women on visas are dtf if a top shelf man is going to beat it rotten.

For the young blood on the come up, less is more. Even competence with game will go far. OLD is cucked. In the modern era, dudes are all swiping but I've always pulled better irl. No catfish and easy to sift through SJW and women who lean feminist; high risk for false rapey accusations.

 

[MatureDJ]

Women’s standards have become too unrealistic, that’s why. To make matters worse, they bring NOTHING of value to the table. I’m sorry but I shouldn’t have to qualify myself to a 30’s single mom with kids with different fathers, a chest tattoo, maybe a nose ring, and works as a cashier at the gas station and drives a 2002 Toyota Camry that’s falling apart. SHE should be kissing MY ass, I shouldn’t be kissing hers.

But she brings the poontang. Yes, that's all she brings, but men without it are slaves for it.

 

[MatureDJ]

Clarey was on the rant about LTR and women thinking it means pie eating contests. I use to troll another forum with before and after ebaum marriage pics. Pics were tragedy on steriods. The only exercise women when married do is fork from the plate to her mouth. Clarey ended off saying western women (i include the uk) love food more than men.

A true Aaron Clarey classic!

 

[logicallefty]

Others who have learned about the games the ladies play and have wisened and play it right back at them.

This is the key IMO. Don't give up. Play it right back. Generally speaking, this is how my LTRs and STRs with women go. At first, women love the challenge from me. They love the fact that I give it right back to them and don't bend over and eat it like the simps before me. Initially, the challenge and mystery keeps them coming back for more. "What's he gonna do next? I'm gonna try XYZ I can't wait to see what he does!" Then eventually, the turning point comes. Either 1) I get tired of being with a woman that acts like a man and I leave her, or, 2) she realizes that there is no beating me at the games she is supposed to win, and no changing me and getting me to submit to her, so she gives up and leaves me. The third option would be if a woman would actually prove to be wife material and submit to me for the long term. I don't see that ever happening. It will be 1 or 2, rinse and repeat. 1 or 2, rinse and repeat, until I croak. But I will never stop playing and go full "no women ever again" MGTOW. I do my own thing in my own way, as described above, so to me this is also MGTOW but it's not MGTOW that never gets any tail! What fun is that?

 

[RickTheToad]

This is the key IMO. Don't give up. Play it right back. Generally speaking, this is how my LTRs and STRs with women go. At first, women love the challenge from me. They love the fact that I give it right back to them and don't bend over and eat it like the simps before me. Initially, the challenge and mystery keeps them coming back for more. "What's he gonna do next? I'm gonna try XYZ I can't wait to see what he does!" Then eventually, the turning point comes. Either 1) I get tired of being with a woman that acts like a man and I leave her, or, 2) she realizes that there is no beating me at the games she is supposed to win, and no changing me and getting me to submit to her, so she gives up and leaves me. The third option would be if a woman would actually prove to be wife material and submit to me for the long term. I don't see that ever happening. It will be 1 or 2, rinse and repeat. 1 or 2, rinse and repeat, until I croak. But I will never stop playing and go full "no women ever again" MGTOW. I do my own thing in my own way, as described above, so to me this is also MGTOW but it's not MGTOW that never gets any tail! What fun is that?

Or, for the MGTOWs, why even play, and I'd agree with that point. If a lady is doing a game to me, I just say later. I'm too old for their childish behavior. I forgot who said it, I think it was Rollo, but many ladies really do act like children. It's really unreal to experience this, then realizing it when you see in right in front of your eyes.

 

[Robert28]

But she brings the poontang. Yes, that's all she brings, but men without it are slaves for it.

2020 has been my worst year for sex that I can remember. And yet I’m not desperate for it for whatever reason. I’m currently only getting it from one girl and I’m fine with that. I find myself not even wanting to add any plates.

 

[Poonani Maker]

2020 has been my worst year for sex that I can remember. And yet I’m not desperate for it for whatever reason. I’m currently only getting it from one girl and I’m fine with that. I find myself not even wanting to add any plates.

I'm not gettin ANY, but I'm not tryin. I mean, I'll get the mid-20s gal who I first met last December say to me today, "Btw, my name's Megan." She forced it because we didn't have much time to talk. She knows I think she's hot cause I'd assume other dudes have told her I said so. She's a bit of an airhead and dumb as bricks but hot with rich parents. Still I won't pursue unless she were to jump in my lap or make me things/go outta her way. She knows I'm well off.

 

[Robert28]

I'm not gettin ANY, but I'm not tryin. I mean, I'll get the mid-20s gal who I first met last December say to me today, "Btw, my name's Megan." She forced it because we didn't have much time to talk. She knows I think she's hot cause I'd assume other dudes have told her I said so. She's a bit of an airhead and dumb as bricks but hot with rich parents. Still I won't pursue unless she were to jump in my lap or make me things/go outta her way. She knows I'm well off.

Yeah I mean I’m not trying either. I’m just hooking up with an ex I dated for 2 years back in 2006-2007. I saw her once last year and we talked for a bit and that was it. Carona comes around and she pops up on my messages on Facebook all of a sudden. Next thing you know we are hanging out and shes “I’ve really enjoyed having you back in my life”. She’s still a looker at 35 too, i don’t think she will ever hit the wall. I find myself not catching feelings for her but I mean she is fun to be around and it has been fun sharing old stories of when we dated and seeing what we both remember. She goes on and on about how good I look and asking about working out and stuff. I’m struggling right now since I can’t get in the gym but I’m doing what I can.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Still I won't pursue unless she were to jump in my lap or make me things/go outta her way.

This is pretty much me. Not worth the risk. I’ll reciprocate effort, but I’m not gonna make the first move anymore. #MeToo and all of that. Even though I might be an honest person, the sheep always come running when a woman cries wolf. They’ll always believe a woman over me for the simple fact that I’m a young man. It’s sad, but unfortunately it’s true. I can handle business if it comes down to it and she outside some false rap claim, but otherwise I’m really becoming jaded and hesitant now. I’m not a weirdo or anything either, I’ll always just do me. But I’m not actively seeking it out. I guess you could say it’s like a soft MGTOW.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

A true Aaron Clarey classic!

There's the one. Lol

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yeah I mean I’m not trying either. I’m just hooking up with an ex I dated for 2 years back in 2006-2007. I saw her once last year and we talked for a bit and that was it. Carona comes around and she pops up on my messages on Facebook all of a sudden. Next thing you know we are hanging out and shes “I’ve really enjoyed having you back in my life”. She’s still a looker at 35 too, i don’t think she will ever hit the wall. I find myself not catching feelings for her but I mean she is fun to be around and it has been fun sharing old stories of when we dated and seeing what we both remember. She goes on and on about how good I look and asking about working out and stuff. I’m struggling right now since I can’t get in the gym but I’m doing what I can.

There's hotter and younger. I typically charge up my troll cannon and send nudes of a far hotter, younger teen.

35? You are better than that but have fun knocking the dust off that *****.

I was doing pandemic pickup today on randoms. Its a fantastic game of catch and release.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I'm not gettin ANY, but I'm not tryin. I mean, I'll get the mid-20s gal who I first met last December say to me today, "Btw, my name's Megan." She forced it because we didn't have much time to talk. She knows I think she's hot cause I'd assume other dudes have told her I said so. She's a bit of an airhead and dumb as bricks but hot with rich parents. Still I won't pursue unless she were to jump in my lap or make me things/go outta her way. She knows I'm well off.

I pull or i next. If not for vaginas and my incessant erection and testosterone levels, I would have zero interest in women. Purely pound town and sexual desire. Alternatively, i wouldn't care.

Like, the sec i nut I'm pulling the chute.

 

[Robert28]

There's hotter and younger. I typically charge up my troll cannon and send nudes of a far hotter, younger teen.

35? You are better than that but have fun knocking the dust off that *****.

I was doing pandemic pickup today on randoms. Its a fantastic game of catch and release.

The young girls around here are quarantined as hell. They don’t come out.