Was it worth shutting down the economy?

[redskinsfan92]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1249451368852516864

 

[redskinsfan92]

Empty hospitals are an overcorrection but they are also the point. I prefer them to this:

Photos show bodies piled up and stored in vacant rooms at Detroit hospital | CNN

Photos shared among emergency room staff at Sinai-Grace Hospital in Detroit show bodies being stored in vacant hospital rooms and piled on top of each other inside refrigerated holding units brought into the hospital's parking lot.

www.cnn.com

Again, many vital illnesses and procedures are being put off and ignored for one illness. They continue to be empty in states where models show the peak has already been reached or is close.

 

[zekko]

Again, many vital illnesses and procedures are being put off and ignored for one illness.

Let's face it, everything about this sucks.

 

[DelayedGratification]

Again, many vital illnesses and procedures are being put off and ignored for one illness. They continue to be empty in states where models show the peak has already been reached or is close.

Nice reference. Twitter. Gosh.

Any evidence that truly-vital cases are being turned away in healthcare systems that are below capacity? From what I read, any under-utilization is due to the postponement of elective and non-critical procedures. Which is prudent in the current circumstances,

 

[Bible_Belt]

Coronavirus: Intermittent social distancing needed for two years, says Harvard study

A major new study delivers sobering news: Unless hospitals boost capacity, or a treatment or vaccine is developed, a strategy of prolonged or intermittent “social distancing” may be needed for the …

www.twincities.com

 

[Xenom0rph]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1249451368852516864

Mark Dice is an American hero

 

[Xenom0rph]

You know Mark shoots his show from Jim Acosta's bedroom, while him is stewing in the WH pressroom, right? No wonder poor Jim is always so on edge. Mrs. Acosta has such a steady hand with the camera, though.

"CNN should change their name to 'Xi NN' cause all they do is parrot CCP propaganda."
- Donald Trump Jr

 

[redskinsfan92]

COVID-19 outbreak at a large homeless shelter in Boston: Implications for universal testing

The circumstances of homelessness create the potential for rapid transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in this vulnerable population. Upon observing a cluster of COVID-19 cases from a single large homeless shelter in Boston, Boston Health Care for the Homeless Program conducted symptom assessments and...

www.medrxiv.org

A study of homeless people found 36% infected. Overwhelming majority were asymptomatic. Thought about it. Homeless people aren't obese.

 

[redskinsfan92]

NYU scientists: Largest US study of COVID-19 finds obesity the single biggest 'chronic' factor in New York City's hospitalizations

Doctors at NYU Langone Health center conducted the largest study so far of US hospital admissions for COVID-19, focused on New York City. They found obesity, along with age, was the biggest deciding factor in hospital admissions, which may suggest the role of hyper-inflammatory reactions that...

www.zdnet.com

Time to start body shaming.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Interesting points

Overreaction

I have become concerned that dangers of the COVID pandemic have been overstated, perhaps deliberately. The containment measures adopted in most Western countries have had little effect on the sprea…

joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com

 

[zekko]

Interesting points

The comment about BCG vaccination was interesting.
The asymptomatic homeless was a bit of a surprise, since you don't usually associate the homeless with strong immune systems.
There's so much conflicting information and opinions out there, it's hard to know what to think.

 

[redskinsfan92]

The comment about BCG vaccination was interesting.
The asymptomatic homeless was a bit of a surprise, since you don't usually associate the homeless with strong immune systems.
There's so much conflicting information and opinions out there, it's hard to know what to think.

My only conclusion at this point is that severe symptoms from Covid-19 is strongly tied to obesity.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Interesting points

Overreaction

I have become concerned that dangers of the COVID pandemic have been overstated, perhaps deliberately. The containment measures adopted in most Western countries have had little effect on the sprea…

joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com

No. This is propaganda. Stick to the facts.

 

[Bible_Belt]

No. This is propaganda. Stick to the facts.

If you go to the web site he is citing as a source, the next data point on that chart ticks way up

COVID-19 Data Explorer

Explore global data on COVID-19.

ourworldindata.org

 

[zekko]

If you go to the web site he is citing as a source, the next data point on that chart ticks way up

COVID-19 Data Explorer

Explore global data on COVID-19.

ourworldindata.org

I agree the virus is a serious threat, but remember deaths are a trailing indicator.

 

[zekko]

Also, remember that the death toll is heavily padded, while the infection rate is dramatically under-reported.

Well, some say the death toll is heavily padded, and some say it is underestimated. I suppose it depends to some extent on what you want to believe. But there is absolutely no question that the number of infected must be more than what is confirmed. How much more depends on who you listen to.

 

[redskinsfan92]

The analogy I think is simple. There was a possibility that the ship was sinking, so we just started throwing everything and everybody overboard.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Well, some say the death toll is heavily padded, and some say it is underestimated. I suppose it depends to some extent on what you want to believe. But there is absolutely no question that the number of infected must be more than what is confirmed. How much more depends on who you listen to.

Given that everyone is going out to get groceries I think it is safe to say there may be a very high number of asymptomatic infected.

 

[Template]

This pandemic is NOTHING compared to the upcoming poverty epidemic.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Not referring to anyone on here, just online in general.

It's amazing to watch how strongly people will argue against anyone who suggests reopening anything. Even if you suggest gradually. It's as if they want everything to remain closed. Same talking points every time.

What is the driving factor for this. Are people so afraid? Do they like being stuck at home? Why maybe things will be shutdown all year they shout with glee.

It's the oddest thing I've seen. Just reminds me of people's attitude with snow. Snowstorm forecasted for 3 inches. They'll go on and on about one metereologist who predicted 15 inches of snow. "I'll be snowed out of work and stuck at home with my blankey!", they say.

Not saying Covid-19 isn't serious. Just saying some people's attitude is odd. A let me suck on my bottle while the government takes care of me attitude.

Then there's the corny commercials. Your country needs you to stay home! Sure, every business deemed "essential" would advertise that wouldn't they? They are still making money.

Not even sure how to process all of this. Mindblown.