Going for women from groups (ethnicity and culture) that are prejudiced against men like you.

[Listen_to_Olly]

We all know that most guys, once they become handsome and wealthy enough, have a target market of women that like them. On a big scale, it is Asian women loving white guys, hot blondes loving cool black guys, small town country white girls loving exotic guys or Latinas loving blond haired guys.

To some degree, these are groups known to just end up with each other a lot.

Now let's say you are in a unique situation where you are not into women typically known to be into men like you, in fact, you are into women from groups who are quite prejudiced and biased against men who look like you. Culturally, men like you are not seen as sexual options and are seen as more of a last resort by them.

In my situation, I love ethnic girls that are hot (Latinas, Arab, etc.) but if she is born and raised in the US, she is not too much into darker skinned men, she wants her trophy white boyfriend. While I do quite well with white girls and black girls, I struggle with the group mentioned.

How do you approach the game there?

 

[Xenom0rph]

I've noticed that Latinas are going the same way as Asian women in that they are going after White guys almost exclusively now....

The only difference is that the White guys with Latinas tend to be more masculine while the White guys that go for Asian tend to be dweebs.....

 

[Georgepithyou]

What is the point of this thread?

 

[Xenom0rph]

What is the point of this thread?

It's a civil discussion about race relations in the free market of dating...

 

[Good Gao]

I've noticed that Latinas are going the same way as Asian women in that they are going after White guys almost exclusively now....

The only difference is that the White guys with Latinas tend to be more masculine while the White guys that go for Asian tend to be dweebs.....

Depends on what kind of Latina though, Puerto Rican chicks love black dudes. I will say though, Latinas seem to be relaxed on race if the guy is cool enough. The ones I know that might be strict on race are Peruvian chicks who worship whites but then again, they are probably the ugliest of all the Latinas.

Colombian girls are super stuck up though.

 

[corrector]

We all know that most guys, once they become handsome and wealthy enough, have a target market of women that like them. On a big scale, it is Asian women loving white guys, hot blondes loving cool black guys, small town country white girls loving exotic guys or Latinas loving blond haired guys.

To some degree, these are groups known to just end up with each other a lot.

Now let's say you are in a unique situation where you are not into women typically known to be into men like you, in fact, you are into women from groups who are quite prejudiced and biased against men who look like you. Culturally, men like you are not seen as sexual options and are seen as more of a last resort by them.

In my situation, I love ethnic girls that are hot (Latinas, Arab, etc.) but if she is born and raised in the US, she is not too much into darker skinned men, she wants her trophy white boyfriend. While I do quite well with white girls and black girls, I struggle with the group mentioned.

How do you approach the game there?

I think there is a problem because you'll always feel the girl is settling for you and would have to worry about losing her to a white guy, her cheating with a white guy, or that she's not totally into you or has a past that involves nasty things with her ex-boyfriend who is white that makes her look like a hor.

The only solution would be to be into women who are known to be into men like you if you don't want to be an ethnicel. Otherise, it looks like if we are interested in women who love white guys then just feel like you are an ethnicel and won't bother and worst, feel bad whenever you see these types of couples all around you, or getting better customer service while you feel invisible.

Beyond that what can I say, try wearing blue contact lenses, cut your hair, dye it blonde if you are hardcore ethnicel. What ethnicity are you, out of curiosity? I'm mixed-race myself (half Black and half White).

 

[Ohso-Phresh]

We all know that most guys, once they become handsome and wealthy enough, have a target market of women that like them. On a big scale, it is Asian women loving white guys, hot blondes loving cool black guys, small town country white girls loving exotic guys or Latinas loving blond haired guys.

To some degree, these are groups known to just end up with each other a lot.

Now let's say you are in a unique situation where you are not into women typically known to be into men like you, in fact, you are into women from groups who are quite prejudiced and biased against men who look like you. Culturally, men like you are not seen as sexual options and are seen as more of a last resort by them.

In my situation, I love ethnic girls that are hot (Latinas, Arab, etc.) but if she is born and raised in the US, she is not too much into darker skinned men, she wants her trophy white boyfriend. While I do quite well with white girls and black girls, I struggle with the group mentioned.

How do you approach the game there?

Swimming up the stream here.

If her girlfriends are of the same race, your social proof will have many opinions.

 

[Good Gao]

The thing about threads like this is that there are extremes it brings out, one is the guys who swear race does not matter but then you get the extreme incels who are the most toxic people out there blaming everything on race. No actionable advice, just a bunch of toxic negative beliefs and wishing they were whitey. I thought I'd offer my advice here as an Asian guy who has seen this commonly with his race.

I can relate wanting to go against the grain and go for something that is different from what men like you usually get.

1. Just do well with white girls and the rest will fall into place.

Seriously, all of these ethnic sloots want to be white, desperately. They envy the hot blonde and envy what hot white girls get out of life. Fortunately for any ethnic guy out there, once you get attractive enough and have game, cute white women will give you the time of the day. These days, white women date out a lot more given that so many white guys played the field, there are many out there just begging for an ethnic guy to take them given that they feel ignored. Once they see you with white girls, they will give you extra attention.

That's what happened with me, as soon as I started dating white girls, their Asian friends were ignoring white guys and trying to get with me. Random Asian women who saw me around, the whitewashed ones with bleached hair, wanted to desperately be a part of my life and threw some really strong IOIs at me. I even slept with a pledge sister of this one girl I used to smash.

2. Go where escorts are legal and smash a ton of girls with that look.

I have a friend with a thing for tanned brunettes but since he is very ethnic looking himself, he could not get them as easily. What he did was he spent money sleeping with a whole bunch of escorts with that look in a part of the world where it is legal. Since he makes a ton of money, it was of no issue to him. I would assume anyone on here wasting time with women and game at least works on their finances, especially if they are not a Chad. Get those in order and just plow escorts with the look you like, you'll be set. After a long enough timeline, you will find that you do not have the same feeling towards these kinds of women.

You also find that a lot of other women from that same group now want you more since people love those who are successful, it's a very subtle thing.

3. Go HAM and spam approach every woman you run into with that look.

Got a thing for Latinas? Move to Miami and spam approach Latinas. Spam approach them like crazy. Approach every Latina that is hot and be laid back towards rejection. Realize that while a Chad might need to only approach 2 or 3 to get laid, you'll have to approach at least 10 perhaps.

Does it suck? Yeah. Is it unfair? Oh yeah. But when all is said and done, you still get your "type", even if it took you many attempts to get it. Now that is what happens.

4. Accumulate a lot of status in spaces that encourage sex.

Be a strip club owner, maybe a porn director, own a porn company, a model photography firm, and who knows what. Get involved in avenues that attract loose women. You will find that there will be a diversity of women looking to get a job in there, it will be your pickings. You can also work with a club promoter as well to make sure you get your type, money is needed perhaps.

Realize that it is more nuanced and not as black or white as you think.

Yeah, as a swarthy dude you might do better with a pale blonde than you would a hot girl with dark hair. It is not 0% with one type of hot girl and 100% with the other. For a hot blonde, maybe you have a 50% success rate while for a hot latina, more like 30%. Keep those numbers in mind.

I gave you ideas, now implement them.

And most importantly, avoid negative people.

I'd avoid whiny losers who take no action and just ***** and moan all the time.

 

[Ohso-Phresh]

The thing about threads like this is that there are extremes it brings out, one is the guys who swear race does not matter but then you get the extreme incels who are the most toxic people out there blaming everything on race. No actionable advice, just a bunch of toxic negative beliefs and wishing they were whitey. I thought I'd offer my advice here as an Asian guy who has seen this commonly with his race.

I can relate wanting to go against the grain and go for something that is different from what men like you usually get.

1. Just do well with white girls and the rest will fall into place.

Seriously, all of these ethnic sloots want to be white, desperately. They envy the hot blonde and envy what hot white girls get out of life. Fortunately for any ethnic guy out there, once you get attractive enough and have game, cute white women will give you the time of the day. These days, white women date out a lot more given that so many white guys played the field, there are many out there just begging for an ethnic guy to take them given that they feel ignored. Once they see you with white girls, they will give you extra attention.

That's what happened with me, as soon as I started dating white girls, their Asian friends were ignoring white guys and trying to get with me. Random Asian women who saw me around, the whitewashed ones with bleached hair, wanted to desperately be a part of my life and threw some really strong IOIs at me. I even slept with a pledge sister of this one girl I used to smash.

2. Go where escorts are legal and smash a ton of girls with that look.

I have a friend with a thing for tanned brunettes but since he is very ethnic looking himself, he could not get them as easily. What he did was he spent money sleeping with a whole bunch of escorts with that look in a part of the world where it is legal. Since he makes a ton of money, it was of no issue to him. I would assume anyone on here wasting time with women and game at least works on their finances, especially if they are not a Chad. Get those in order and just plow escorts with the look you like, you'll be set. After a long enough timeline, you will find that you do not have the same feeling towards these kinds of women.

You also find that a lot of other women from that same group now want you more since people love those who are successful, it's a very subtle thing.

3. Go HAM and spam approach every woman you run into with that look.

Got a thing for Latinas? Move to Miami and spam approach Latinas. Spam approach them like crazy. Approach every Latina that is hot and be laid back towards rejection. Realize that while a Chad might need to only approach 2 or 3 to get laid, you'll have to approach at least 10 perhaps.

Does it suck? Yeah. Is it unfair? Oh yeah. But when all is said and done, you still get your "type", even if it took you many attempts to get it. Now that is what happens.

4. Accumulate a lot of status in spaces that encourage sex.

Be a strip club owner, maybe a porn director, own a porn company, a model photography firm, and who knows what. Get involved in avenues that attract loose women. You will find that there will be a diversity of women looking to get a job in there, it will be your pickings. You can also work with a club promoter as well to make sure you get your type, money is needed perhaps.

Realize that it is more nuanced and not as black or white as you think.

Yeah, as a swarthy dude you might do better with a pale blonde than you would a hot girl with dark hair. It is not 0% with one type of hot girl and 100% with the other. For a hot blonde, maybe you have a 50% success rate while for a hot latina, more like 30%. Keep those numbers in mind.

I gave you ideas, now implement them.

And most importantly, avoid negative people.

I'd avoid whiny losers who take no action and just ***** and moan all the time.

^^^ This

 

[Xenom0rph]

Depends on what kind of Latina though, Puerto Rican chicks love black dudes. I will say though, Latinas seem to be relaxed on race if the guy is cool enough. The ones I know that might be strict on race are Peruvian chicks who worship whites but then again, they are probably the ugliest of all the Latinas.

Colombian girls are super stuck up though.

Well, I'm from SoCal so the Latinas around here are mostly Mexican and Central American heritage.....

....in 90s and 2000s Latinas were conservative, family oriented and were more ladylike while still being freaky in the sheets..... These days Latinas have abandoned their Catholic conservatism and have embraced THOT culture and Instagram culture....

....it's funny how when ethnic communities integrate into mainstream American culture the women always become THOTs...

 

[Xenom0rph]

white women date out a lot more given that so many white guys played the field, there are many out there just begging for an ethnic guy to take them given that they feel ignored. Once they see you with white girls, they will give you extra attention.

Bruh with all due respect, that doesn't correlate with my observations in the real world.....

The race hierarchy is absolutely real in the free market of dating......

Chad is at the top followed closely by Tyrone, then Carlos comes in 3rd........

...White women arent begging for ethnics....well, Tyrone gets a lot of love, but ethnics in general dont do well with most demographics of females unless if they can pass for Euro-looking....

Again, no disrespect intended. This is just a frank honest discussion about race relations in dating....

 

[Good Gao]

Well I got some news for you man, there is a world outside of LA and a country outside of LA. No offense to you Californians but you seem to think that the entire country is exactly like yours and works the same way socially, it's a part of why majority of Americans find Californians to be intolerable. Even this despite the fact that quite frankly, you're the more forgotten coast and less important than NYC. Granted, you folks down in LA are not nearly as bad as San Francisco. I've been to LA and can understand why you would feel that way but in majority of the country, especially the east coast, white women are going for ethnics in droves.

Heck, even in LA I see Latinos dating white women in higher numbers than before and even Asian men getting in on the action.

There is no "hierarchy", it's a market for just about every guy. There are tons of women who would go for a black guy and despise ethnics and tons of women who will go for any minority but a black guy.

Every single ethnic I have known who was relatively decent looking and not a fob has done okay with white women.

White women are getting desperate, they know white men are moving on and diversifying so white girls are doing the same. Now add in media also promoting interracial relationships with white girls and ethnics (Glenn and Maggie in Walking Dead and the one film with the Paki guy from Silicon Valley show), they are jumping on ethnics. Every time I go out in NYC, I see a hot white girl with some kind of an ethnic looking dude.

I've seen and experienced it first hand, younger white girls are on the hunt for exotic looking dudes these days in most major cities outside of the west coast.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Bruh, if you want to see the race hierarchy on full display, just check out San Francisco where every Asian female, Indian female, Latina, Middle Eastern female are going for White guys....they'll even go for the norwood5 balding white guy before an ethnic....

Media has already attempted to influence dating with movements like #BigIsBeautiful which tried to manipulate men into dating fat girls. And the LGBTQ+ community tried to get online dating sites like Tinder to prevent straight males from blocking transgender women in an attempt to get straight guys to date trannies.....

..... It didnt work.... You cant social engineer attraction...

.....the truth is European features are the standard of beauty for males and females....

 

[Good Gao]

Once again "bruh", refer to my post, you Californians are stuck in your own little world and think everywhere else is like CA, it ain't. Don't even talk to me about San Fran, that place is a dump and considered by any straight man a dump for dating with hideous women crawling the area. It is its own little dump where people are stereotyped as loving the smell of their own farts, a joke to any straight man.

It's not even a race thing but it's everywhere, I call the California Complex. You people annoy everyone with your know it all attitude and thinking you know how the world works, then you get frustrated when you venture out and attempt to turn good places into California (case in point Colorado and Austin, TX).

So don't speak for us who live on the east coast, midwest, South, and even other areas of the Northwest or Southwest. The world is not California, talk to me when you get that message through your head and have lived in other places bruh.

Enough of that, women go for whatever media shows as hot and whatever society approves of. Women do not exclusively judge men on physical appearance and even that aspect of it is tied to status, which changes with the trends. Sure being ripped and in good shape are what matter and height too but the race thing is media influenced, hence Scandinavian women loving ethnics. Men are a lot more visual than women.

My point being, white women LOVE ethnics these days, when you go to and live in a normal state instead of CA, come talk to me.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I've noticed that Latinas are going the same way as Asian women in that they are going after White guys almost exclusively now....

The only difference is that the White guys with Latinas tend to be more masculine while the White guys that go for Asian tend to be dweebs.....

Latina is not a race. Most Latinas are white or Mestiza (white-indigenous mix).

 

[StacksHitEmUp]

I do extremely well with Latinas and to a lesser extent Asians opposed to white girls. I'm white but pretty dark so most people think I'm some kindof mexican or latino. I get asked a lot where I'm originally from. It's crazy to me how I can score the hottest latinas but then have to work to bang a decent looking white girl. This is why I don't bother with white girls, they're not even my type anyway. I don't think it's smart to overthink **** like this anyway because you'll end up self-sabotaging. Just go for what you want and dismiss any type of negative thoughts.

 

[MrWood]

I see some mixed relations in some stereotypical prejudiced places/cultures since I travel alot.

My take is... dont be a douchebag, show your interest with attitude, kino and charm.
dont be a douchebag.

Speaking outside of America...
if you are black you can do well in UK and Scandinavia, dress sharp and you can do ok.
Asians almost never will date a black and rarely a brown Latino or non-Asian.
Brown guys do well in Scandinavia.
Black and Asian guys will not do well in Russia, Ukraine or any former Russian state
Italian and Spanish guys kill in Europe and Russia

 

[Good Gao]

I do extremely well with Latinas and to a lesser extent Asians opposed to white girls. I'm white but pretty dark so most people think I'm some kindof mexican or latino. I get asked a lot where I'm originally from. It's crazy to me how I can score the hottest latinas but then have to work to bang a decent looking white girl. This is why I don't bother with white girls, they're not even my type anyway. I don't think it's smart to overthink **** like this anyway because you'll end up self-sabotaging. Just go for what you want and dismiss any type of negative thoughts.

That's a very atypical experience. If you are white and more on the racially ambigious end (Adrian Grenier, Joseph Gordon Levitt, etc.) then you should be cleaning up hard with blondes and redheads. I find that blondes and redheads go crazy for dark-haired and darker white guys so surprised you are not cleaning up there. I would expect you to struggle with say a more tanned white girl who might want to overcompensate and go for a pale guy.

I am shocked you do well with latinas, they typically love blond men and hate darker skinned guys unless it's a black guy.

 

[Good Gao]

I see some mixed relations in some stereotypical prejudiced places/cultures since I travel alot.

My take is... dont be a douchebag, show your interest with attitude, kino and charm.
dont be a douchebag.

Speaking outside of America...
if you are black you can do well in UK and Scandinavia, dress sharp and you can do ok.
Asians almost never will date a black and rarely a brown Latino or non-Asian.
Brown guys do well in Scandinavia.
Black and Asian guys will not do well in Russia, Ukraine or any former Russian state
Italian and Spanish guys kill in Europe and Russia

Asian girls love just about any race other than Asian men these days, I see a lot of them with Indian dudes for some reason in wealthier areas. Heck, I see more Indian guys with Asian girls than I do white girls. Black guys will absolutely slay in Japan and Korea, especially if they are of the American variety.

Asian men and ethnic guys can also do really really well in Russia and Eastern Europe. It is commonly believed that of all the white women, Slavic chicks have a thing for Asian, Indian, and Latino dudes. Black guys can clean up in certain areas of the Balkans like Croatia.

As for Italian and Spanish men, those days are gone. Too many Turks and Arabs posing as Mediterranean ruined it for them, it is known in Poland that any Italian guy there is part of an ERASMUS program seeking easy lays.

My experience in Europe has been this:

1. Darker guys of any kind (outside of Arabs) slay in Northern Europe and very blonde countries

2. Pale white guys (blondes, redheads, etc.) slay in European countries where dark hair and tanned skin are the most common. Romania and Hungary are exceptions here are darker guys can do quite well in those places. For Spain? Don't even try if you look ethnic or brown.