Do you think the London Bridge terrorist qualifies as an ethniccel?

[Spaz]

What are you even talking about? I never said he died, you need reread EVERYTHING. And I also know how Qur’an was written, I never said Muhammad wrote it, wtf

And if you look back to my posting history from over the years, you’ll see that I actually questioned Islam. This past year I especially went hard, how else do you think I know so much? I visited ex-Muslim forums and websites and everything. Don’t you dare tell me I need to think more. I think more than any poster on here. And definitely more than you. Your ego can’t the fact that you could be wrong about this.

Why tf are all old people like this? I swear...

Refer to below.

Oh yeah, and educate yourself first before you ever try posing any arguments to me. Spaz, this isn’t a fight that you’ll win. And it’s very clear from your own posts that you don’t Islam nearly as well as you think you do. You couldn’t even respond to my other post even though you said that you could be “convincing as hell”

What a lie hahaha

I never lied.

All the information I've given is from the Quran itself.

I purposely used the Quran because you keep on mentioning western propaganda.

So I used the Quran itself, but then you either refuse to answer directly or flat out lied or maybe you don't know any better.

1st you said Mohammed gave the Quran to humanity - you lied, he didn't give write the Quran nor gave it, he was an illiterate.

2nd you implied that Mohammed ascended into heaven much like Jesus - when in actual fact he's was riddled with worms after he died just like everyone else.

3rd you are again implying he did a miracle, by throwing sand to blind the enemy? Might as well say he deflected sunlight by using a mirror or the flat side of his sword to blind the enemy and then call it a miracle.

Again, I ask for 1 singular act, any act, that shows that Mohammed is indeed a prophet of God.

Every single prophet has produced a miracle.

Moses tore apart the red sea to walk across it.

Jesus, brought the dead back to life.

I'm sure the greatest prophet can do more then just throwing up sand...

R u even willing to compare ur own 2 prophets, Mohammed and Jesus?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

1st you said Mohammed gave the Quran to humanity - you lied, he didn't give write the Quran nor gave it, he was an illiterate.

Actually, you’ll find that my completely unedited post says this:

And he relayed the Qur’an to humanity.

As we can clearly see here, at no point did I say Muhammad wrote it. I carefully chose my words on purpose. You just damned yourself here.

you implied that Mohammed ascended into heaven much like Jesus

Well guess what genius? You asked me to give a miracle from the Qur’an that Muhammad did, and this is one of them that’s actually mentioned in the Qur’an. Congratulations. You just damned yourself here as well.

3rd you are again implying he did a miracle, by throwing sand to blind the enemy? Might as well say he deflected sunlight by using a mirror or the flat side of his sword to blind the enemy and then call it a miracle.

A small bit of sand from one single man happened to blind an entire army? And it happened in such a way to where they won the battle even though they were outnumbered 3-to-1? That’s a miracle from God if I’ve ever heard one. You just damned yourself here, too.

Again, I ask for 1 singular act, any act, that shows that Mohammed is indeed a prophet of God.

I gave you 3. And now, just like Danger did, you tried twisting my words around to suit your own needs, spiel out wrong information about Islam, and started bringing up other stuff that’s completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Then, you even tried to downplay and trivialize the examples I did give. Face it, you lost. Those Christians you went to that hate Islam? They just gave you wrong information and don’t know nearly as much about Islam as they think they do.

 

[Spaz]

Actually, you’ll find that my completely unedited post says this:

As we can clearly see here, at no point did I say Muhammad wrote it. I carefully chose my words on purpose. You just damned yourself here.

Well guess what genius? You asked me to give a miracle from the Qur’an that Muhammad did, and this is one of them that’s actually mentioned in the Qur’an. Congratulations. You just damned yourself here as well.

A small bit of sand from one single man happened to blind an entire army? And it happened in such a way to where they won the battle even though they were outnumbered 3-to-1? That’s a miracle from God if I’ve ever heard one. You just damned yourself here, too.

I gave you 3. And now, just like Danger did, you tried twisting my words around to suit your own needs, spiel out wrong information about Islam, and started bringing up other stuff that’s completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Then, you even tried to downplay and trivialize the examples I did give. Face it, you lost. Those Christians you went to that hate Islam? They just gave you wrong information and don’t know nearly as much about Islam as they think they do.

No. 1) The Quran didn't exist while Mohammed was alive.

Again u r leading people on by claiming that Mohammed gave the Quran to humanity.

No. 2) What miracle? State the verse in the Quran that states he performed that miracle.

No. 3) I did not twist my words, I explicitly said we shall use the Quran ONLY.

And what I wrote is from the Quran itself.

If you say that I am lying then the Quran itself is either false or you simply don't know it.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

No. 1) The Quran didn't exist while Mohammed was alive.

Again u r leading people on by claiming that Mohammed gave the Quran to humanity.

It was verbal. Have you even read the hadiths that talked about this?

No. 2) What miracle? State the verse in the Quran that states he performed that miracle.

Wait no it was the Battle of Hunain, not Badr. It’s talked about in Qur’an 8:17.

No. 3) I did not twist my words, I explicitly said we shall use the Quran ONLY.

But Islam is twofold and I already told you that. You can’t just reject the hadiths, even the Qur’an says so (Qur’an 4:59 | Qur’an 24:63 | Qur’an 59:7).

Like, who do you think you’re trying to fool here?

And what I wrote is from the Quran itself.

Then quote it. Where in the Qur’an does it say Jesus rose form the dead?

Ha, trick question actually, because it doesn’t.

If you say that I am lying then the Quran itself is either false or you simply don't know it.

Bro you’re the one who says that Muslims believe Jesus rose from the dead, and EVERY Muslim regardless of sect will tell you otherwise. Don’t even act like you know more than me. This is one of the basics of Islam and one of the differences between Islam and Christianity. Gtfo if you think it’s written in the Qur’an. Qur’an 4:157 explicitly says Jesus did not die. Sit down.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I’m sorry @Spaz but you just lost all credibility.

 

[Spaz]

I’m sorry @Spaz but you just lost all credibility.

Really?

R u gonna admit that Mohammed NEVER created a miracle according to the Quran?

Or if you still prefer to spin it...i can play along.

BTW wasn't it you that said the hadith's is unreliable and that's why I said we shall use the Quran as reference point?

After all Muslims claim the Quran is the word of God that was passed to by an Angel...

R u gonna use the hadith's now since the Quran itself has disproved ur narratives?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

R u gonna admit that Mohammed NEVER created a miracle according to the Quran?

Or if you still prefer to spin it...i can play along.

I mean I literally cited the verses for you. You LITERALLY have the Internet at your fingertips. The sheer laziness is astounding...

BTW wasn't it you that said the hadith's is unreliable

Some of her are, some of them are not. Some are incomplete or are taken out of context. If you had properly read what I said, I stated that there was a verification process.

R u gonna use the hadith's now since the Quran itself has disproved ur narratives?

I gave you 3 examples, and now you’re in denial that I did. Cry me a river.

 

[Spaz]

I mean I literally cited the verses for you. You LITERALLY have the Internet at your fingertips. The sheer laziness is astounding...

Some of her are, some of them are not. Some are incomplete or are taken out of context. If you had properly read what I said, I stated that there was a verification process.

I gave you 3 examples, and now you’re in denial that I did. Cry me a river.

The Quran has cited many verses to either explain why mohammed can't perform miracles or to confirm that he can't.

Do you wish to deny this is stated in the Quran?

Careful now...if you deny it, I heard its a big sin.

 

[backseatjuan]

I think most folks on sosuave are not aware of what's going on.

There is a movement out there. Millions of nerd type of men who are unable to score sit at home, masturbate to porn, and visit different websites and form groups and misinterprit red pill. Some of them commit terrorist activities in hopes of overthrowing the present status quo of alpha males fcking all the women. I'm kidding you not.

"Beta uprising.....against Chads and Stacies"
..
"Basically a movement of angry incels who are unable to get laid and therefore who want to overthrow the Chads which would force Stacies to be forced to reproduce with incels."

Watch that video whole, if you are tldr then scroll to @24:25 ish I want to say. Quote above is his exact words. He killed 10 in toronto van attack.

 

[Spaz]

I think most folks on sosuave are not aware of what's going on.

There is a movement out there. Millions of nerd type of men who are unable to score sit at home, masturbate to porn, and visit different websites and form groups and misinterprit red pill. Some of them commit terrorist activities in hopes of overthrowing the present status quo of alpha males fcking all the women. I'm kidding you not.



Watch that video whole, if you are tldr then scroll to @24:25 ish I want to say. Quote above is his exact words. He killed 10 in toronto van attack.

Even Steven Hawking had women despite his many disabilities.

It's when men places women as the Prize that they end up as idiots.

It's when they do EVERYTHING for women.

And there's so many here, some even went so far as to create various expressions of love just so women can love them more.

These needy men don't know that their persistence to chase women DOESN'T get women in the end.

 

[backseatjuan]

I still do not think that you get a whole picture of the problem @Spaz
Those incels do not view themselves to be a problem.
They view alphas to be a problem. And women are just misguided and innocent.
They do not think that women are attracted to alpha males and unattracted to incels.
Best bet is for you to watch that video starting at 24 min 25 sec in if you don't want the whole thing.
Those mother fckers actually doing a jihad, lul.

 

[Spaz]

I still do not think that you get a whole picture of the problem @Spaz
Those incels do not view themselves to be a problem.
They view alphas to be a problem. And women are just misguided and innocent.
They do not think that women are attracted to alpha males and unattracted to incels.
Best bet is for you to watch that video starting at 24 min 25 sec in if you don't want the whole thing.
Those mother fckers actually doing a jihad, lul.

Dont really enjoy watching something on YouTube.

But since it's you, i'll watch it later..

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The Quran has cited many verses to either explain why mohammed can't perform miracles or to confirm that he can't.

Do you wish to deny this is stated in the Quran?

Careful now...if you deny it, I heard its a big sin.

The miracles that he (or any of the prophets for that matter) performed was only due to the will of God. And this, actually, is stated in the Qur’an. What’s your point?

 

[Spaz]

The miracles that he (or any of the prophets for that matter) performed was only due to the will of God. And this, actually, is stated in the Qur’an. What’s your point?

Hoh! U r trying some maneuvering tricks to get out of this one.

But since I like ur spunk, I'll let you get away with it.

Well, I was basically leading you on the path towards understanding my initial post in this thread, after all you did ask me to elaborate on it.

Therein is all the answer - from ur every reply, the confusion, the denial, the admissions, etc.

If its not convincing enough, I'll be more then happy to elaborate further.

But then, can you handle it?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Hoh! U r trying some maneuvering tricks to get out of this one.

But since I like ur spunk, I'll let you get away with it.

LOL! So in other words, you realized that you’re not able to dig a hole around me and trap me. Hahaha

Spaz, the thing is with people like you, you guys always try and ‘win’ an argument through some sort of technicality that YOU guys define as a metric of being proof of God. You’re trying to tell me what the standard of ‘proof’ should be, and then you’ll say “well since it doesn’t technically meet this arbitrary standard that I made up entirely from thin air, your religion must not be true hurr durr”. Like, no, that’s not how that works. I’m privy to all these games you’re trying to play. BeExcellent is much better at this than you are lol and I called her ass out on everything every step of the way. If a corrupt woman with an occupation in business who is not only aware game due to being a female, but also because of websites such as these, who ALSO was around the nightclub scene, AND around it in a way such that she had access to the inner workings of it as an establishment as a whole; if such a woman could not fool me, what makes you think you have any chance of doing the same with me? I’m too aware of changes in nuances. Satan can’t even beat me head-to-head, and you think you can? I’m not trying to be condescending, forgive me for that. But I’m not falling for deception.

Plus, even one of the verses I cited for you literally stated what I just told you lol. Even I said it was a miracle from God well before you ever decided to game me here:

That’s a miracle from God if I’ve ever heard one.

Well, I was basically leading you on the path towards understanding my initial post in this thread, after all you did ask me to elaborate on it.

You asked me open-ended questions, and I answered them by the will of God. Then you started asking more questions based off of incorrect presumptions, to which I stated that said questions were based off of faulty premises. That would be like me asking you why you’ve had homosexual sex before, and then you telling me that you never did, and then me saying that because you didn’t technically answer my question properly that you are therefore gay. Do you see the issues with this?

If its not convincing enough, I'll be more then happy to elaborate further.

But then, can you handle it?

Go for it. If you REALLY want to challenge me, I urge you to read some older philosophical atheists. The new-age atheists like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, etc. don’t actually present true strong arguments against the existence of God. The older ones though, they’re on a whole other level if I’m being honest. But I presume you’re Christian though, so I don’t think you’ll want to read those lol...

 

[Spaz]

LOL! So in other words, you realized that you’re not able to dig a hole around me and trap me. Hahaha

Spaz, the thing is with people like you, you guys always try and ‘win’ an argument through some sort of technicality that YOU guys define as a metric of being proof of God. You’re trying to tell me what the standard of ‘proof’ should be, and then you’ll say “well since it doesn’t technically meet this arbitrary standard that I made up entirely from thin air, your religion must not be true hurr durr”. Like, no, that’s not how that works. I’m privy to all these games you’re trying to play. BeExcellent is much better at this than you are lol and I called her ass out on everything every step of the way. If a corrupt woman with an occupation in business who is not only aware game due to being a female, but also because of websites such as these, who ALSO was around the nightclub scene, AND around it in a way such that she had access to the inner workings of it as an establishment as a whole; if such a woman could not fool me, what makes you think you have any chance of doing the same with me? I’m too aware of changes in nuances. Satan can’t even beat me head-to-head, and you think you can? I’m not trying to be condescending, forgive me for that. But I’m not falling for deception.

Plus, even one of the verses I cited for you literally stated what I just told you lol. Even I said it was a miracle from God well before you ever decided to game me here:


You asked me open-ended questions, and I answered them by the will of God. Then you started asking more questions based off of incorrect presumptions, to which I stated that said questions were based off of faulty premises. That would be like me asking you why you’ve had homosexual sex before, and then you telling me that you never did, and then me saying that because you didn’t technically answer my question properly that you are therefore gay. Do you see the issues with this?

Go for it. If you REALLY want to challenge me, I urge you to read some older philosophical atheists. The new-age atheists like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, etc. don’t actually present true strong arguments against the existence of God. The older ones though, they’re on a whole other level if I’m being honest. But I presume you’re Christian though, so I don’t think you’ll want to read those lol...

Such a mouthful for so little that I've typed.

Well, since its an invitation how can I refuse?

But you do realise that you refuse to compare Mohammed and Jesus.

Plus, you also refuse to confirm that Mohammed is just a normie per the Quran.

Since I've given you plenty of space to answer just this 2 simple questions, it's now my turn to post my thoughts.

I'll post that later in the day.

I'll make it high entertaining...

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

But you do realise that you refuse to compare Mohammed and Jesus.

Because I don’t want to read a several hundred-paged book just for the sake of checking each individual sign just for a ‘ha!’ moment on the Internet, I’d just rather be doing other things lol

Plus, you also refuse to confirm that Mohammed is just a normie per the Quran.

A ‘normie’? All prophets of God, including Jesus, were just regular men. They all walked in the markets, and ate.

 

[Spaz]

Because I don’t want to read a several hundred-paged book just for the sake of checking each individual sign just for a ‘ha!’ moment on the Internet, I’d just rather be doing other things lol

A ‘normie’? All prophets of God, including Jesus, were just regular men. They all walked in the markets, and ate.

A normie can't split the red sea like Moses.

A normie can't raise the dead like Jesus.

A normie is someone who can't perform miracles of that calibre just like Mohammed and me or even you.

But now it's my turn to compare, my narratives, you had plenty of chances to push yours.

It's only fair don't you think so?

Later in the day, I'll post my narratives.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

A normie can't split the red sea like Moses.

A normie can't raise the dead like Jesus.

A normie is someone who can't perform miracles of that calibre just like Mohammed and me or even you.

But now it's my turn to compare, my narratives, you had plenty of chances to push yours.

It's only fair don't you think so?

Later in the day, I'll post my narratives.

No one can perform miracles without the will of God. If Jesus and Moses were alive right now, they’d tell you first hand.

Just gotta correct you here.

 

[backseatjuan]

@Spaz has become rather pointless.