How is it possible that there is so many incels

[3agle 3yes]

Things are defined by what they really are, not by what someone calls them. An attractive guy who calls himself incel is not an incel just because he says so. Someone who is healthy can't go on paid sick leave just because they say they are sick. Someone is not honest just because they say they are.

But what defines real? Just because you find someone attractive doesn't mean they think they themselves are. If someone truly believes they are sick, even if all external examination says otherwise then aren't they sick?

Some people have limitations but get by just fine, others have privlidge more than you can believe, yet they are depressed.

Google the names 'Shane Burcaw' and 'Shaun Stephenson' to see what I'm talking about.

Incels exist primarily in the mind.

 

[AttackFormation]

But what defines real? Just because you find someone attractive doesn't mean they think they themselves are. If someone truly believes they are sick, even if all external examination says otherwise then aren't they sick?

Hypochondriacs and munchausen syndromes are not sick, despite believing and wanting you to believe they are. Being sick, or being incel, is defined by collective opinion that has been established as definition.

But this is really getting overly theoretical. I'm gonna go read a book.

Google Shane Burcaw and Shaun Stephenson.

Survivor bias.

 

[RickTheToad]

Actually, it's a vicious circle. They watch porn because they can't get laid and when they watch it, it releases dopamine (or is it endorphins?) and then they become less bothered to meet a real woman.

And I'm just generalising here, there are men who are petrified of women, there are men who are impotent and there are men who think they are worthless...and that's just a few of the reasons why men watch porn.
This is a bit of a generalisation don't you think? I've seen videos of incels who look like normal people, so spare me. Why do you think many in the left love playing victim? Playing the victim means taking a lack of responsibilty, playing victim means you can act self-righteous, playing victim means gets you attention, everyone can tell you how bad you've got it and how much sypathy they have for you...playing the victim is very addictive for many people.

As for the questions from the op:



1) Most women are not hypergamous wh0res.

2) If all you do is watch porn all day (and as a consequence think pornstars are a reflection of the average woman in society) of course you're going to think all women are hypergamous wh0res.

Can't ask an incel to answer their own questions. They just blame, Chad, Chad, dudes with lots of $$$, a successful career, attractive, charming, popular, etc. It's never their fault, it's everyone else's fault.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Hypochondriacs and munchausen syndromes are not sick, despite believing and wanting you to believe they are. Being sick, or being incel, is defined by collective opinion that has been established as definition.

Both of those are arguably a form of mental illness.

Survivor bias.

In what way? If someone says "it doesn't work for most people, then it won't work for me" aren't they not also showing bias? The main difference between winners and losers, is that winners last longer.

 

[JohnChops]

Dude I don't mean to sound like an old man, but the new generation of young men are weak, google grip strength/testosterone studies of millennials. I rent out some properties and have had guys in their 20s call me to kill a bug... Seriously kill a f--king bug? I don't mind at all if they call and say Darius your property sucks it has bugs, that wasn't the case, it was literally they couldn't kill the bug. I mean we can't all know how to change oil, shoot guns, kick down doors, fight, and bench press 3 plates in your 20s, but kill a bug? And they wonder why their girls are sleeping with us. Sad....

That grip strength study is so interesting. Not only have people now a days have a weaker grip, less manual labor, but a weaker grip correlates to less life expectancy. I found that so damn cool. (Not cool if you’re a weak ***** though)

 

[Dash Riprock]

Dude I don't mean to sound like an old man, but the new generation of young men are weak, google grip strength/testosterone studies of millennials. I rent out some properties and have had guys in their 20s call me to kill a bug... Seriously kill a f--king bug? I don't mind at all if they call and say Darius your property sucks it has bugs, that wasn't the case, it was literally they couldn't kill the bug. I mean we can't all know how to change oil, shoot guns, kick down doors, fight, and bench press 3 plates in your 20s, but kill a bug? And they wonder why their girls are sleeping with us. Sad....

+1000

Couldn't agree more. Millennial men's T has been watered down to the point of it being a trace compound rather than the driving force.

BUT...the good news is they can take steps to correct it.

BUT...99% don't.

 

[AgentofChaos]

I've always wondered what incels are rebelling against. Their own refusal to improve their situation while finger pointing at everything else as an excuse?

 

[AgentofChaos]

The consequence of Incel rebellion is: Inpro

If an Incel gets caught on a rebellion rampage and thrown in prison he then becomes an: "Inpro" Involuntary Promiscuous. Like it or not.

Think about it.

 

[Billtx49]

The consequence of Incel rebellion is: Inpro

If an Incel gets caught on a rebellion rampage and thrown in prison he then becomes an: "Inpro" Involuntary Promiscuous. Like it or not.

Think about it.

The second inference you’ve made to Cell life within two days…
Seems to be weighing heavily on your mind.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Someone here recently talked about how there hasn't been any big wars lately. Those tend to thin out the male population a bit, which helps keep more men in demand. Now if there's an excess, the guys on the bottom are going to be left out.

What mamy are ignoring is a simple fact. There is going be war that corrects the issue. War and disease always rebalances things.

 

[thinker]

I don't hate incels and I actually feel bad for them to a certain extent. There are more incels now than before and as a matter of fact I think the real number is noticeably higher than people think. The people blaming OLD and social media have a point as well as the people that are blaming porn, single mothers, and low testosterone. These are all contributing factors as well as the fact that their are more men than women at this point in history. Having said that most incels I believe are in a prison of their own creation. These guys are black pilled and have basically given up without really trying. Most of the incels I have known look a little below average to average, if these guys put forth some effort and make their journey their focus not women they would do better, I am not saying they would be Chads but they would do much better. Younger men from what I have noticed are vary feminine and this needs to be addressed by them, they need to build there chain of masculinity through building skills, acquiring knowledge and living new challenges and experiences.

 

[Xenom0rph]

As I mentioned in another thread, more and more men are being pushed towards inceldom by gynocentric society which is why its becoming a recurring topic on this board.

 

[Epic Days]

If I didn't know any better, I might be persuaded that the internet generation was a social experiment, to see if Ted Bundy's mind could be overwritten onto the brains of susceptible adolescents.

Now that’s an interesting take. Subverting society is a factual dogma and self proclaimed intentional.
why not this as well?

interesting. I will think on it some. Controlling minds of men is a well documented effort. Just media alone.

 

[ubercat]

It takes along time to get it. Once you women may look at you suspiciously but they always will treat you as a man. But to get there u need positive experiences along the way. Most guys can be social enough that the randomness of woman will provide pvssy even if they don't know what they're doing. Some can't.

 

[SeymourCake]

Women taking birth control is screwing up their biological urges to seek real men. Naturally, they seek an alpha male when they are approaching their menstrual cycle, but with birth control, their menstrual cycles become out of whack and it suppressed their urge to seek men.

 

[RickTheToad]

I was talking to an associate about race, recently. He's a 1%er, by every measure, but he still has racial victimology drilled into his head. So, i asked him how he became so successful, and why he never moved to one of the many majority Black, Black-governed countries, if America is still so terrible for Black people, and why the Black immigrants who are still coming here do so much better than the Blacks(and even Whites) who were born here. I asked him what people would blame for their personal failures and feelings of inadequacy, if their blue-eyed boogeyman disappeared from the planet tomorrow. Would people suddenly take responsibility for the conditions of their own lives, or would they just blame their failures on more conditions they couldn't control, like being too short, too ugly, too stupid, or being born too poor? I asked if he ever knew anyone who became happy when the condition he complained about changed, or did he usually just find something new to complain about.

He laughed, and said he needed to talk to me every day. I told him i was flattered, but that i didn't think i could take it, and that I'd pencil him in for an hour every Tuesday, if he didn't mind paying in cash. He laughed again.

Victimology is like a warm blanky, to Losers. Losing doesn't make you a Loser. Blaming others for your failure does. Incel=Loser

Agreed. Many people look at others for their failures in life. I always take responsibility for my actions. Even failed relationships (personal or business), I take blame for my part. It's just how it is. As I tell others, need to have some self respect and a stiff upper lip like our some of our parents (mine were old) and generations prior. Life is too easy for the unimportant things. Everything but the important things in life can be acquired by that supid smartphone. I only have it with me a few hours a day. When I'm in my office, it's in the draw. In the car, in the glove compartment. At home, charging in the next room. I had that thing. IMO, the smartphone has caused more damage than good; in terms of self development.

 

[RickTheToad]

Women taking birth control is screwing up their biological urges to seek real men. Naturally, they seek an alpha male when they are approaching their menstrual cycle, but with birth control, their menstrual cycles become out of whack and it suppressed their urge to seek men.

That's like saying it's daylight outside during the day and dark at night. If a person take a chemical to alter their hormones, then that is what's going to happen. However, since condoms suck, do you want to chance a pregnancy with a lady you may not want to have a child with? Pick your evil dude.

 

[corrector]

I think incels have too much pride.

Lets not.confuse pride with dignity.

 

[SeymourCake]

That's like saying it's daylight outside during the day and dark at night. If a person take a chemical to alter their hormones, then that is what's going to happen. However, since condoms suck, do you want to chance a pregnancy with a lady you may not want to have a child with? Pick your evil dude.

Pro tip: If you don’t want to get a girl pregnant, then don’t have sex with her.

 

[DariusTheBartender]

Pro tip: If you don’t want to get a girl pregnant, then don’t have sex with her.

Or pull my move and have a vasectomy