This is why you always confirm plans before a date

[sangheilios]

Was texting this woman, whose number I got Saturday night, on Monday and we had arranged to meetup this evening, Thursday, at 7. After we had made those plans on Monday I told her I'd get in touch with her on Thursday before our date. I did not text her at all during the following days until around noon the day of the date, as simple "Looking forward to seeing you later tonight". A few hours go by and I didn't hear from her, which didn't really worry me too much because she took a while to respond before. I get a text saying how she'd supposedly be stuck at work all evening, she then apologized and asked if we could do something later instead. I just reply by thanking her for letting me know in advance, as it was still a few hours away from out date, and then saying that I'd be able to go out later tonight but that the rest of the week and into the following one I'd be busy and not sure when I would be available.

Whether or not any of what she said is true is irrelevant, though I'd genuinely like to hope that an adult in her mid 20s with a career and obligations would not set plans like that simply to just flake on them. Many women today are super flaky, so if you value your time always be sure to avoid having it wasted on someone with this quality. Even if her excuse is legitimate, if you are just starting to go out with this woman or this is your first date you are not at all any sort of priority in her life.

 

[The Duke]

Whether or not any of what she said is true is irrelevant, though I'd genuinely like to hope that an adult in her mid 20s with a career and obligations would not set plans like that simply to just flake on them.

Unfortunately they do this into their 40's!

Reminds me of a girl that gave me the "I left my phone at work" excuse as to why she flaked on the first date attempt. The second date attempt, she cancelled because she had to "work late".

So a few nights later she is still texting me and apologizing. I tell her I'm at XYZ bar, and she can come buy my drinks. She tries to get me to pick her up and I tell her no. She shows up anyways. We end up splitting the drinks. Afterwards I take her to my house to fuhk. After that I never asked her out again. She sent me some angry texts so I told her maybe if she wasn't so flakey she wouldnt get pumped and dumped.

Don't take them seriously. She certainly isn't taking you seriously.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I use a similar confirmation text these days so I don't come off as needy. Something as simple as "see you tonight." If she doesn't respond, I assume that she is flaking and don't show up to the venue. Women flake, it's just what they do. I'm in the middle of this too, but you just gotta keep doing the self improvement and play the numbers game until you find one who won't flake on you. Just my take, since I'm dealing with lots of flakes at the moment too.

 

[Young OG]

Was texting this woman, whose number I got Saturday night, on Monday and we had arranged to meetup this evening, Thursday, at 7. After we had made those plans on Monday I told her I'd get in touch with her on Thursday before our date. I did not text her at all during the following days until around noon the day of the date, as simple "Looking forward to seeing you later tonight". A few hours go by and I didn't hear from her, which didn't really worry me too much because she took a while to respond before. I get a text saying how she'd supposedly be stuck at work all evening, she then apologized and asked if we could do something later instead. I just reply by thanking her for letting me know in advance, as it was still a few hours away from out date, and then saying that I'd be able to go out later tonight but that the rest of the week and into the following one I'd be busy and not sure when I would be available.

Whether or not any of what she said is true is irrelevant, though I'd genuinely like to hope that an adult in her mid 20s with a career and obligations would not set plans like that simply to just flake on them. Many women today are super flaky, so if you value your time always be sure to avoid having it wasted on someone with this quality. Even if her excuse is legitimate, if you are just starting to go out with this woman or this is your first date you are not at all any sort of priority in her life.

Some people on here won't agree with this, but I would have text her Tue and/or Wed. I would have just had some small text exchanges, nothing too long. I noticed that when I did what you did and what others say to do (only text to set up the date), then I would always get flaked on. Women nowadays dont have a very long attention span. She probably lost interest.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Some people on here won't agree with this, but I would have text her Tue and/or Wed. I would have just had some small text exchanges, nothing too long. I noticed that when I did what you did and what others say to do (only text to set up the date), then I would always get flaked on. Women nowadays dont have a very long attention span. She probably lost interest.

I noticed the same thing whenever I would wait a week. They'd say "Who is this?" Or I wouldn't get a response at all. So I text them the following evening or the evening after that as well now.

 

[Young OG]

I use a similar confirmation text these days so I don't come off as needy. Something as simple as "see you tonight." If she doesn't respond, I assume that she is flaking and don't show up to the venue. Women flake, it's just what they do. I'm in the middle of this too, but you just gotta keep doing the self improvement and play the numbers game until you find one who won't flake on you. Just my take, since I'm dealing with lots of flakes at the moment too.

If your getting flaked on a lot, then your doing something wrong. It's you, not the women. You need to reevaluate what your doing.

 

[sangheilios]

Some people on here won't agree with this, but I would have text her Tue and/or Wed. I would have just had some small text exchanges, nothing too long. I noticed that when I did what you did and what others say to do (only text to set up the date), then I would always get flaked on. Women nowadays dont have a very long attention span. She probably lost interest.

I only did that because I specifically told her that I'd get a hold of her today, Thursday, before the date. I can see the merit in what you say, but I think in an ideal situation you'd be able to set up a date relatively quickly, say the next day or 2 instead of the end of the week.

With all that said, I don't think anything I could have done differently would have made a difference, the end result would still would have been her flaking out. I do find this behavior odd, as she was the one that had specifically stated what time she'd be available on this given day. However, I should also consider myself fortunate that she did in fact take the time to text me back, and actually well in advance.

I had a friend a while ago have plans to meet up with some hoe off of tinder, they had arranged a specific time and place to meet. Anyway, he gets there and is waiting for a bit, which is when she texts him saying she isn't interested lol.

I'm just going to see if she decides to text me again, if not the number will be deleted.

 

[nicksaiz65]

If your getting flaked on a lot, then your doing something wrong. It's you, not the women. You need to reevaluate what your doing.

Yup... Self Improvement and tweaking the Game Strategy. I think for me at least, waiting a week isn't productive. Although I do agree with mostly texting for logistics.

 

[sangheilios]

Yup... Self Improvement and tweaking the Game Strategy. I think for me at least, waiting a week isn't productive. Although I do agree with mostly texting for logistics.

I think the best thing to do is try to set up a date relatively soon after meeting, say like a couple days later or what have you.

With all this said, sometimes there really isn't anything you did wrong, it could have just be a culmination of factors that were beyond your control. Maybe she is legitimately super busy with life and that took priority over meeting you? Maybe she has been dating other men and decided she really liked on in particular?

 

[nicksaiz65]

I think the best thing to do is try to set up a date relatively soon after meeting, say like a couple days later or what have you.

With all this said, sometimes there really isn't anything you did wrong, it could have just be a culmination of factors that were beyond your control. Maybe she is legitimately super busy with life and that took priority over meeting you? Maybe she has been dating other men and decided she really liked on in particular?

Nah definitely just a flake bro haha. I had a couple attention wh0res in there too.

Failure does tell you what you're doing wrong though. I've learned 2 things:
1.) In NightGame, you need to close the deal that night
2.) Flakes happen because you're getting numbers from girls that have a weak attraction towards you. I need to build more attraction and work on that connection between us.

Also a tip I picked up, maybe this will help... I've heard people recommend setting the Date for the next day or day after that maximum. Otherwise she'll expect you to text her in the time leading up to that. Additionally, it keeps you fresher in her mind

 

[nicksaiz65]

If your getting flaked on a lot, then your doing something wrong. It's you, not the women. You need to reevaluate what your doing.

Have you ever considered calling a girl over texting her? That's one thing that I'm going to experiment with. I hear that a 10-15 minute call can really help lower your flake rate because you're working on building the connection between the two of you.

 

[sangheilios]

Nah definitely just a flake bro haha. I had a couple attention wh0res in there too.

Failure does tell you what you're doing wrong though. I've learned 2 things:
1.) In NightGame, you need to close the deal that night
2.) Flakes happen because you're getting numbers from girls that have a weak attraction towards you. I need to build more attraction and work on that connection between us.

You are missing the point.

There really isn't much you can do to better your chances of actually meeting up with a woman, disregarding texting her all day long and all that.

If a woman likes you she will go out with you, simple. Some women may have their interest level as high as a 9/10, and in this case it would be hard to screw it up. In other instances she may have been interested enough to give you her phone number but then due to whatever was going on on her end she backed away.

If you are getting a number that is already a positive sign, so for her to not want to meet up with you falls more on her and not what you did or did not do.

 

[nicksaiz65]

You are missing the point.

There really isn't much you can do to better your chances of actually meeting up with a woman, disregarding texting her all day long and all that.

If a woman likes you she will go out with you, simple. Some women may have their interest level as high as a 9/10, and in this case it would be hard to screw it up. In other instances she may have been interested enough to give you her phone number but then due to whatever was going on on her end she backed away.

If you are getting a number that is already a positive sign, so for her to not want to meet up with you falls more on her and not what you did or did not do.

Yeah I do agree with that. At the end of the day if she actually likes you and doesn't just want your attention she'll go out with you. Girls will give out their numbers all the time, but she'll only meet up with you if she has genuine interest, or so I've heard.

 

[sangheilios]

Yeah I do agree with that. At the end of the day if she actually likes you and doesn't just want your attention she'll go out with you. Girls will give out their numbers all the time, but she'll only meet up with you if she has genuine interest, or so I've heard.

From my experience this is how an approach can go

1. Doesn't give you the time at all, this is very rare from my personal experience and observations
2. Gives you the time but rejects you,
3. Gives you her number but then never responds or just leads you on to nowhere, this is actually very common
4. Gives you number and sets up date but then flakes or cancels, this could be for legitimate reasons or not
5. Gives you number and you guys actually go out

I think in an ideal scenario you are able to classify where a woman truly is and then make a rational decision. Some women do in fact have things that come up, so in a case where you guys made plans but she backs off it may be better to not necessarily cut her off then and there. However, I think that seeing behavior like this early on should be enough to expect more of this in the future.

I'm a very direct person so I have no tolerance or patience for things like this, so I usually just call it out and then delete their number.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I would NEVER tell her after she says "Can you do later?" or whatever renigging on the agreed time, Your business next week or tomorrow or what your schedule is cause she. simply. does. not. care (or would not remember). She'll think less of you for trying to tell her your business or your schedule. It's ALL about her, that's just the way females ARE, selfish. Try to do it later same night, but not "next day" or "next week." Now, you can text her later in the week and just Forget whatever flake she did and see if she's feeling different cause that's ALL it is is feeling for some other guy OR she may just be Feeling not up to it (with YOU or just really is not FEELING...whatever).. make a New time to meet up. If she renigs on this again, then try again in a month IF your options are limited, but plow on to other girls allthewhile. Just shut her out of your mind, for the meantime allthewhile hittin up other girls that pass your way that pass your fancy. You can go back and try again with this girl, but you must drop her down several notches, notches that can Only be healed with TIME. She's offended you, so she doesn't get the good d!ck, the good d!ck that she didn't even know was better than others that she could've gotten if she'd but just gotten wise to you that you're not like the others, that you are head n' shoulders above the rest (most likely). If you REALLY have worked on yourself and stayed the course, then you'll know that you'll be better than most guys she could be havin fun with. Her being with you, improves her. I always think, "Did I improve this woman?" I hate to think I left her worse off or Used, but sometimes I suppose I have, and I was the Worst thing that ever happened to her. I'm sure it's happened, but I more oftentimes than not get rang up weeks after fvcking a girl, and it's the texts afterwards or the sharing of dreams and things that I say that are most likely very unique that make it feel personal between us that she may refer to later (because she's feelin down having rode the c0ck carousel and finally a dude actually shares something special with her or at least appears to CARE for her, the wh0re that she is/has been. Then I may not answer her texts cause I'm with another one and then she may simmer and think the sweet texts or unique sharing I did with her was just a front or me being slick or disingenuous with her insincere, but no, it wasn't just that I share with all the girls. I'm too busy to answer all of them all of the time, even if she thought we had something special. I've had something special with a lot of them, and it's been weekly sometimes, not just a monthly every once and a while special connection. I mean, it's like WHAT ELSE are you gonna do for me?? Show me. Go the extra distance...but they never do, hardly Ever!

 

[ubercat]

Not sure about that. That s one of the benefits of plating. The ones who r into u keep turning up the others drop down the order. Reading her attraction is easy then. She turns up and lets me fuk her. Anything else y would I care.

I agree a confirmation txt is a good thing if your not double booking. And never chase around town always make them come to near u.

 

[The Duke]

Have you ever considered calling a girl over texting her? That's one thing that I'm going to experiment with. I hear that a 10-15 minute call can really help lower your flake rate because you're working on building the connection between the two of you.

It definitely helps you stand out! They usually thanked me for calling and comment that so few do so.

 

[SoSuave666]

Do not listen to OP. He is a borderline troll and even if he isn’t he over inflated his looks/status. Big Dave vibes x100000

 

[malz1]

Your conversion seems so formal.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I dont feel like giving suggestions since I made plenty of mistakes myself in my life, I can tell you what works for me in this moment.

First of all a girl in her 20s and a woman in her 30s usually have a different attitude and a different life style and often a different SMV.

I act according to the girl Im dealing with.

With younger girls I dont set up dates in advance, I call the same day and sometime the same evening asking where they are and offering to meet around there, anything different than that proved to be a pain in the ass to manage with flakes and being late.

If the young girl shows great interest or a hint of ethics (quite rare) then I settle a proper date in a proper time in a certain location...which is usually 5 min walking from where I live, in case she flakes.

Older women require much less "strategy", they usually have less contenders for their attention and they themselves filter men differently than younger ones, in those cases I can set a date some days in advance.

Personally I find myself more comfortable setting same day dates, I dont like to interrupt my activities cause I had a meeting planned in advance, plus Im in my mid 30s and if I'm not horny that day I surely dont appreciate spending hours with a woman.