However one can change his own programming by knowing that his programmed subconscious is a recording and is working against him. With everyday work, spotting faulty thinking, he can rewrite it over time. IF he can let go of his ideas that keep reinforcing his subconscious mind.
That’s exactly how I did it.
No amount of environmental inducements can make a man suddenly wish to be butt fvcked and enjoy it.
Garbage, Spaz. I’ve done it to women and men before (granted, without realizing). Most of the crap about ‘Oh I was BORN gay’ is just because they reinterpreted their memories. That happens when they become indoctrinated too hard into the Western system where they are essentially told how to think. The fact that this **** is SPREADING across completely unrelated groups of people, it TELLS you that there is no genetic basis for it (learn it wouldn’t be across unrelated groups of people).
R all the prisoners (every single one) wilfully engaging in homosexuality?
If its 100% then you could say its environmental.
If its not, then I'd still say it's defective genes.
What a reductionist point of view. You aren’t taking into consideration heir life prior to prison. You act as if that has no effect on someone And all that matters is the present moment, that their past experiences don’t mean anything. And we KNOW that’s bull****. There’s even more than that. Cmon, this is common sense brother.
I’m straight and I don’t think I would ever resort to that. Ever. I’ve been sex deprived until I was 18 and never ever had the desire to be with another man. Some people hide it better then others. I do have hints that some people are gay in my high school by how much they hated gay people and how touchy they were when they are drunk. You just “know”. Just as how you “know” when a girl likes you. It’s the sixth sense of sexuality we all have.
It’s obvious: high stress/traumatic environment where one needs to be strong at all time will cause someone to desire release. That’s why ENTs/paramedics/trauma nurses/trauma doctors go ahead and **** each other a lot of times lol. Being around high stress situations does that to people.
This view is also supported by historical knowledge. Societies that tolerated and even encouraged homosexuality (think ancient Greece and Rome) had hugely disproportionate numbers of gays and bisexuals. That cannot be explained by genetics.
I said this before, too. They also accepted pedophilia and the children had no right to consent really. But I also don’t think they knew any better, either. **** was wack. That’s the society we based ours off of, unfortunately.
I used to live in San Francisco and I knew some gay guys who were so gay that I could never imagine them ever being straight. When they are “in heat”, they just want to take in. It’s their hormones that drives them to get penetrated, not because of some traumatic childhood experience.
Just like how when you are in your 20s your hormones makes you want to climb a mountain and cross an ocean just to be able to penetrate a woman. It’s kind of like that, but in reverse.
They were normal and sane in every way (and sometimes even more sane then women i knew) except that they physically wanted to get penetrated because of sex hormones in their bodies.
You’re retarded. It’s cognitive dissonance. They associate sexual immorality with pleasure: they KNOW what they’re doing is wrong, and the more they ‘want it’, the more wrong and ****ed up it is. And because of that, the more gay they act, the more it turns them on. That’s for the overly flamboyant types, anyway.
I always wondered how the same hormones that make a guy muscular and strong can make him interested in an active relationship with a woman but also a passive one with a guy.
Guess the hormones are the same but the brain is shaped differently.
Don’t buy into that dude’s bull****.
Edit - and his older brother was a hardass. They were raised the same way. How could being gay have anything to do with nurture?
Take it from someone who WAS that same 7 year old once upon a time: when everyone else around you is hard to the point where it‘s borderline oppressive for YOU, you tend to reject everything they are and are associated with. And that includes masculinity. Then you’re left to your own devices because of it, all by yourself (that’s not healthy, and it ****s with your social development a lot). And when you’re left all by yourself like that, you can become increasingly neurotic, and end up just digging yourself deeper into that hole of rejecting society/those people/that group/that
thing, whatever it is.
People don’t even recognize me anymore. You’d have never guessed.