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This is amazing. I've done almost the same thing he saying you do, but before watching his vid. Results I got are chicks eventually getting tired and giving me their number, coming up with different excuses. Same thing he describing. The only thing I've done differently is being online several times per day, morning at 10, midday, and evening around 5 pm, then I fvck off from Friday evening until Monday morning. Plus I use pickup lines to open them up. I'm gonna switch things up for a while, being there 1 time per day only.

Not sure if it's a good idea to message 'Hey my name is 'name' what's your name?', because those girls already have their names listed in their profiles. Is OLD over there is different and they have nick names or something?


 

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Oh yea, the initial approach makes a lot of sense actually. Many dudes are using pickup lines, others just say hi, others come up with other stuff. You doing it the way a normal person would do IRL just make you appear normal. The rest works I know that already.
 

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So basically like he says just reply a day after to every message act like your busy ?
 

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Not just reply to every message she types you a day later, but be on that site once per day. Wtf do you think she gonna think of you if she sees you on and you didn't reply to her message, or if she sees her message read and you didn't reply. Gotta fake genuine. I do this, except weekends, first thing I do is find 10 other women I message with hellos, then I reply to all the messages sent to me. On weekends I do not message new girls. Guess what, sometimes it's a total surprise. I actually find a programmer chick today, and I was already chatting with her for about a week, just like this, 1 message per day. Her ass is mine, she don't know it yet, she was excited to find out I program as hobby and for her it's her job, plus my ass is more advance, in a more advance language, for a lot longer, she is just an accountant programmer.

Another thing, on site I'm at, I get to see messages on my phone prior to opening them, I get them on my iphone as notifications. Not all will be positive messages I want to reply. Those that I don't want to reply, I will try to remember, and when I log in, I will move the sender into ignore folder without even reading them. On this site I'm at there is a counter graph which let's the user know how often you reply, if you reply often it's green, if you reply less often it's yellow and red. So by not replying and not even looking at sh1t messages, I make that thing red, which in theory tells them I'm not that available.

Give me a favor, try going to love.mail.ru and registering, it's free. Does that thing works in your country?

Anyway, this stuff is tried and solid, I had it verified before watching this vid, and the only real question I had was opening, which I did verify, it works wonders. This AMS dude is amazing, not everything he says gonna work out tho, but the theory is solid, so far, and I watched about 15% of his vids.
 
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Also apps like tinder and bumble , they have there names there most apps do he says just say what’s your name as the opener
 

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Always better to get their number or fb and start chatting directly instead of a third party device. Perferably, it's best to set a date and meet up in a few days or sooner. Bumble and a few others do not show when you are online, so AMS's strategy only works on Match or OKCupid where it shows the person is online. I've not tried Tinder or POF, so I do not know if they show as online or not.
 

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Also apps like tinder and bumble , they have there names there most apps do he says just say what’s your name as the opener
Blah, let me repeat, because I tried it out on myself. If her profile name says Sindy, and your name is Mike, and this is morning, and it's not a weekend (added by me), you open her up by saying this - Good morning Sindy, I'm Mike, what is your name?

If she is interested she will reply and in my experience they throw smiles and sh1t when they reply.

Now I can guess, and this would be a damn good guess, this is because you are doing an approach like in real life, so she takes you seriously.


Always better to get their number or fb and start chatting directly instead of a third party device.
Getting her number implies calling her, that's where the phone game is needed. Whatapp is weak IMO.
 

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Blah, let me repeat, because I tried it out on myself. If her profile name says Sindy, and your name is Mike, and this is morning, and it's not a weekend (added by me), you open her up by saying this - Good morning Sindy, I'm Mike, what is your name?

If she is interested she will reply and in my experience they throw smiles and sh1t when they reply.

Now I can guess, and this would be a damn good guess, this is because you are doing an approach like in real life, so she takes you seriously.




Getting her number implies calling her, that's where the phone game is needed. Whatapp is weak IMO.
Don't have what's app, only speak on the phone should they request. All else is text.

Me: Hey it's Rick, How are you?

Her: Great. You?

Me: Amazing as always. Let's meet for drinks. What's your week look like?

Her: I'm free on so and so.

Me: Great. Let's meet at ****tails and Dreams on Thrus. around 7:30.

Her: Works for me. See you then.

Me: Anything chances, just let me know. I look forward in meeting you. Have a great rest of week.

Her: You too.


Simple and too the point. Perhaps Russia is different?
 

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@sosausage nah

@RickTheToad if that's a phone conversation you better make it 10 minutes at least, show her your charm and sh1t, otherwise it's flaky business. It's flaky business even if you chat her up, but if you do that sh1t, it's a guarantee. IMo anyway. Your experience may vary.

Anyway, doing this thing the way youtube guy says now. Gonna do field report in several weeks, right now it's too early. Expecting about 2 dates per week.

At this point I have a prostitute problem. Many women on the site I'm on, it's a general for my country, are prostitutes. So thing goes well, and I get number, and when I call they talk about money. I'm adjusting my conversation to filter that sh1t out.
 

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@sosausage nah

@RickTheToad if that's a phone conversation you better make it 10 minutes at least, show her your charm and sh1t, otherwise it's flaky business. It's flaky business even if you chat her up, but if you do that sh1t, it's a guarantee. IMo anyway. Your experience may vary.

Anyway, doing this thing the way youtube guy says now. Gonna do field report in several weeks, right now it's too early. Expecting about 2 dates per week.
Nah, that's thru text. Phone convos are hit or miss, so I try to avoid.
 

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Not just reply to every message she types you a day later, but be on that site once per day. Wtf do you think she gonna think of you if she sees you on and you didn't reply to her message, or if she sees her message read and you didn't reply. Gotta fake genuine. I do this, except weekends, first thing I do is find 10 other women I message with hellos, then I reply to all the messages sent to me. On weekends I do not message new girls. Guess what, sometimes it's a total surprise. I actually find a programmer chick today, and I was already chatting with her for about a week, just like this, 1 message per day. Her ass is mine, she don't know it yet, she was excited to find out I program as hobby and for her it's her job, plus my ass is more advance, in a more advance language, for a lot longer, she is just an accountant programmer.

Another thing, on site I'm at, I get to see messages on my phone prior to opening them, I get them on my iphone as notifications. Not all will be positive messages I want to reply. Those that I don't want to reply, I will try to remember, and when I log in, I will move the sender into ignore folder without even reading them. On this site I'm at there is a counter graph which let's the user know how often you reply, if you reply often it's green, if you reply less often it's yellow and red. So by not replying and not even looking at sh1t messages, I make that thing red, which in theory tells them I'm not that available.

Give me a favor, try going to love.mail.ru and registering, it's free. Does that thing works in your country?

Anyway, this stuff is tried and solid, I had it verified before watching this vid, and the only real question I had was opening, which I did verify, it works wonders. This AMS dude is amazing, not everything he says gonna work out tho, but the theory is solid, so far, and I watched about 15% of his vids.
Lol...eveyone is a programmer these days
 

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Rick, what is your experience with texting after getting their number online, as far as how many dates you get vs how many flakes you get?
10% - 15% flake rate. I've since moved first meets to either weekdays or Sundays, never a Friday or Saturday. Those are for ladies I've already met. I will add that some have come around weeks later, but I lost interest or had other opportunities. When they do it, it's kinda like a sh!t test, and I just prefer not to play. Furthermore, the actual attractive one's it doesn't happen with. It seems to only happen from the average looking ones. I've never had an attractive lady cancel, only average. Then again, average to me, may be different that someone else.
 

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I'm trying this as a new approach:

If I match with a girl (on tinder) I won't message her until the next day. Where I live, there is an abundance of beautiful 20 somethings. I have no problem getting matches, I've gotten 8 over the past 3 days.

But the problem is getting the response. So I've tried waiting a day and messaging a brief question about something I found interesting on their profile. I'm sure they get tens of matches a day with guys saying all sorts of things. She gets her pick of the litter. So I am taking an indifferent approach, as AMS advises, both for myself to not get so wrapped up in it and for her interest level.

I've gotten 1 response out of 6 messages. Maybe I need some better photos. My bio is c&f, so I think everything's alright there. The number of responses I got back home was drastically higher than here. We'll keep tweaking it, stay tuned.
 

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^So we’re a match! Does that mean we dating now?

Tinder says we can tell our kids we met here.. I think I’m going to lie them about this tiny little detail

If you don’t get results could mean there is a different dynamic on tinder. I’m not doing tinder, it is dead here. Andrew Ryan has some good info on tinder dating.

As far as something from their profile, done that, crap. You’re not alone doing it, thus boring.
 

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The message something in the bio this is old and played out. All do that. I usually say either hey, how are you and proceed from there. Or, I would open with a movie quote such as "Ever dance with the devil under the pale moonlight? It at least peaks their interest as not boring. Hit or miss. The point is to get them off the app an on direct contact and IRL ASAP.
 

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If you REALLY want success on OLD i will give you the secret

Step 1: Go to the gym for 6-12 months and get ripped

Step 2: Put up physique shots on OLD

Step 3: Watch as women come to you!

It's THAT simple
 
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