Is nofap really has benefical has people make it out to be or is it overrated?

[Spaz]

Fapping is a moral perversion and sex is supposed to be a shared experience not to satisfy your own selfish desires by yourself.



Being an incel excuses fapping because you can at least blame women for rejection and this is the only type of option of release you have.



Any sex outside of marriage is a sin.

This is some extreme stuff corrector.

The 10 commandments doesn't state it's a sin to have sex.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

It works stronger erections after awhile

 

[corrector]

This is some extreme stuff corrector.

The 10 commandments doesn't state it's a sin to have sex.

The 10 commandments say adultery is a sin, and Jesus further said that looking lustfully at a woman that's not your wife is the same type of sin as well in God's eyes at a heart-level. (Matt 5:28) Fornication is also a sin as well in the NT and is in fact written as one of the four commandments to the Gentiles (non Jewish people) in the new church. Having sex outside of marriage is a sin. If someone is willing to have sex with you then they should be willing to marry you as well. Then just marry so the sex itself won't be a sin.

 

[corrector]

You don't enjoy sex?

I don't understand the context of the question. I defended marital sex in my post as being not as perverse and selfish as fapping and you are asking me if I enjoy sex? When I was married I don't think I enjoyed sex that much because it didn't work like it was supposed to and there were too many toxic issues within the marriage itself which was a buzz-kill over the whole thing. I hindsight, of course, fapping is much better (i.e. especially with a sex-toy like a fleshlight) than real sex with a real woman that I'm married to but have no real sexual chemistry with, but that doesn't make it right. My conscience killed me every time I did that during the grey area of legal separation and a finalized divorce. My conscience felt more clear after the divorce was finalized and I had more fun fapping then and didn't feel as tormented. In fact, there is nothing like a bad marriage to remind yourself there are allot of things worst than fapping.

For the record, I've only had sex with one woman, (i.e. actual vaginal penetration) that I was married to in the past. But at the least that is true to my convictions. While I may fap here and there if I look at porn or escort pic, its not something I'm proud of, and do feel a weight of guilt that it's still wrong in principle despite I may tolerate it because I may feel that women are rejecting me and that gives me a sort of right to do that. Although the belief that God has a woman for me is complicating that picture since that could be a lack of faith that God would eventually come through, etc.... a complicated mess.

 

[Spaz]

The 10 commandments say adultery is a sin, and Jesus further said that looking lustfully at a woman that's not your wife is the same type of sin as well in God's eyes at a heart-level. (Matt 5:28) Fornication is also a sin as well in the NT and is in fact written as one of the four commandments to the Gentiles (non Jewish people) in the new church. Having sex outside of marriage is a sin. If someone is willing to have sex with you then they should be willing to marry you as well. Then just marry so the sex itself won't be a sin.

Adultery is a sin.

Adultery defines someone who is married and yet fornication with a woman who is not his wife.

 

[Stephen23]

Interesting thanks for your input guys it really helps

 

[corrector]

Adultery is a sin.

Adultery defines someone who is married and yet fornication with a woman who is not his wife.

If you want to get technical about it, the 10 commandments were given to the Jews. Gentile commandments in Acts 15:20 specifically mention "no pollution from idols, no fornication, do not eat things strangled, do not eat blood"...that's assuming you get hyper-technical and also ignore most of what's written elsewhere that say that fornication is a work of the flesh, and people who do these things are not going to inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Cor 6:9). It's up to you how you want to interpret that, but to me that sounds serious. If you are the least concerned as to whether you are going to make it at the end of the day then it would certainly be a miss if you have a lifestyle of fornication. I'm sure you already know what hell is like. You can't have that and Jesus at the same time.

 

[Spaz]

If you want to get technical about it, the 10 commandments were given to the Jews. Gentile commandments in Acts 15:20 specifically mention "no pollution from idols, no fornication, do not eat things strangled, do not eat blood"...that's assuming you get hyper-technical and also ignore most of what's written elsewhere that say that fornication is a work of the flesh, and people who do these things are not going to inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Cor 6:9). It's up to you how you want to interpret that, but to me that sounds serious. If you are the least concerned as to whether you are going to make it at the end of the day then it would certainly be a miss if you have a lifestyle of fornication. You can't have that and Jesus at the same time.

You r quoting the bible that's man made from a variety of sources via stories handed down and then complied into various texts.

I'm quoting the commandments received DIRECTLY from God.

R u challenging the commandments of God?

 

[Fzatf]

Jesus and God can fvck off if they give a damn what I do with a woman prior to marriage. To think an all powerful creator gives a damn about you playing with yourself. Ridiculous. Of course most of us should stop believing in fairy tales as children.

"My magic sky daddy tells me not to mix fabrics but I won't listen to that part because it clearly doesn't apply to me."

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

What about spending an hour or two before going to bed watching Chaturbate? Isn't that functionally equivalent to having wifey dressed in lingerie with her hoohah staring at you?

I am curious about the science.

To each their own.

If TS is just fapping into oblivion, not handling his biz obviously, pullback.

 

[corrector]

You r quoting the bible that's man made from a variety of sources via stories handed down and then complied into various texts.

I'm quoting from a source that has 66 books, written by 44 different authors who were inspired by God.

I'm quoting the commandments received DIRECTLY from God.

You've probably broken every single commandment in thought or heart. Most people have. Nobody can keep them. They are designed to show that everybody is a sinner in need of Jesus.

Jesus said that unless your righteousness exceeds the outwards observance of that law that you are basically doomed because even the religious establishment of old could not keep this and God has punished Israel many times as their enemies invaded their soil and exiled them because they failed to keep the law. They eventually rejected Jesus too and the Romans crushed them. The only reason they exist as a nation today is prophetic destiny because there is going to be a great Tribulation coming after the Rapture of the church takes place. They are going to be in the center of all of this starting with a re-built Temple.

Going back to point, Israel could not keep the commandments after 4000 years they received it before Jesus came. Dare anyone say they are better than them? This is exactly why Jesus had to come down from heaven to fulfill the law and redeem everyone.

 

[Spaz]

I'm quoting from a source that has 66 books, written by 44 different authors who were inspired by God.



You've probably broken every single commandment in thought or heart. Most people have. Nobody can keep them. They are designed to show that everybody is a sinner in need of Jesus.

Jesus said that unless your righteousness exceeds the outwards observance of that law that you are basically doomed because even the religious establishment of old could not keep this and God has punished Israel many times as their enemies invaded their soil and exiled them because they failed to keep the law. They eventually rejected Jesus too and the Romans crushed them. The only reason they exist as a nation today is prophetic destiny because there is going to be a great Tribulation coming after the Rapture of the church takes place. They are going to be in the center of all of this starting with a re-built Temple.

Going back to point, Israel could not keep the commandments after 4000 years they received it before Jesus came. Dare anyone say they are better than them? This is exactly why Jesus had to come down from heaven to fulfill the law and redeem everyone.

You take your "orders" from men in direct contradiction of God himself.

Then you come here spreading teachings of men who says they are inspired by God when God himself has given the 10 commandments and have not endorsed nor even acknowledged those authors you speak of.

Again I ask, who r u to pervert God's commandments ?

 

[corrector]

You take your "orders" from men in direct contradiction of God himself.

Then you come here spreading teachings of men who says they are inspired by God when God himself has given the 10 commandments and have not endorsed nor even acknowledged those authors you speak of.

Again I ask, who r u to pervert God's commandments ?

You have broken every commandment so you don't really have much of a say with anything. If you've lusted, lied, swore, or done anything like that once in your life then you are a sinner and you can't be justified by any commandment, only condemned. However your interpreting any commandment is dead-wrong because God is going to look at your heart, not just your actions.

 

[Fzatf]

You have broken every commandment so you don't really have much of a say with anything. If you've lusted, lied, swore, or done anything like that once in your life then you are a sinner and you can't be justified by any commandment, only condemned. However your interpreting any commandment is dead-wrong because God is going to look at your heart, not just your actions.

Thought crimes are punished by the magical sky daddy who'll burn you for eternity, but he loves you. What a joke.

 

[Spaz]

You have broken every commandment so you don't really have much of a say with anything. If you've lusted, lied, swore, or done anything like that once in your life then you are a sinner and you can't be justified by any commandment, only condemned. However your interpreting any commandment is dead-wrong because God is going to look at your heart, not just your actions.

You dare judge me and in doing so reducing God's role ?

You dare presume to think what God knows and in doing so reduce God's role ?

You dare go against God's commandments by subverting his will and inserting your interpretation of it ?

Satan is the master of lies and deceit. His duty is to subvert God's original will. You seem to be doing just that.

Again I ask, who r u ?

I accept no authority except God. It is in my communion with God himself that I accept his truths and not with you nor with false God's. Do not come here preaching your falsehoods.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Leave religion out of this

 

[R.U.G.]

Personally, my favorite proverb in the bible from Austin 3:16.

 

[R.U.G.]

Talk about a thread that got out of hand. No pun intended..

 

[Spaz]

Merely correcting the trajectory of this thread since fapping and sex is define as "sin" within the religious context @R.U.G.

I would think others here who wishes to bring up religion will be having 2nd thoughts..

 

[CrazyDude93]

Today i reach 71st day on NF . It has brought me magic !