Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Thread title would be much better without the word "off."
Have some self respect. Last time I went 4 dates with no sex I told her after thrusting her up against the wall with her top off and pants half way down that I wasn't waiting around anymore. Let her know that sex is happening if there is going to be a 5th date.Corey Wayne is right, this girls behavior changed after our fourth date and her behavior went cold.
I chased a little bit, but then backed off completely. We saw each other in gym class and she was distant.
I see her this past week in gym (after no texting each other for five weeks) and she was friendly. I didn't act bothered by the fact that she went cold.
Last night she noticed i wasn't at gym and texted me class was good.
As Corey Wayne states: She is putting yourself in your orbit and you must set up a date.
So, we will probably be hanging out next week sometime.
My gut tells me, an ex bf or another guy(s) was back in the picture and its not working out, so she had me in her back burner and reached out.
I am 42 and she is 23
Can you explain what you mean by the last paragraph? Seems I’m in a situation where the secretary at work grinded on me during holiday party and we even kissed afterwards, but has blown me off when I’ve texted her for a date. Is this common behavior in your experience?I think it's this. She probably expected sex within the first 1-3 dates. When you didn't pull it off, she gave you the benefit of the doubt by going on an extra 4th date as a last chance. You didn't do it then, so she figured why should she waste her time with a guy who won't fvck her and just wants to waste time, started talking to her other guys and mentally disengaged from you. She doesn't care that you're "nice" now... she cares that you lead her to nowhere.
I've had girls act quite interested and then blow me off and show their resentment/avoidance of me, but they never agreed to go on one date in the first place let alone several.
And you are 41? Nice! Same age around me...Have some self respect. Last time I went 4 dates with no sex I told her after thrusting her up against the wall with her top off and pants half way down that I wasn't waiting around anymore. Let her know that sex is happening if there is going to be a 5th date.
ps. I snagged a 21yo a few weeks ago. Shot down her cahk blocking friends. Took her home and rocked that little girls world. I haven't spent a dime on her yet. She comes over for drinks, dancing in my living room, and sex. No dates needed with this one.
That was different from my own anecdote I had in mind when I wrote that post. In your case I assume she was drinking, which will lead girls to do things they wouldn't do otherwise.Can you explain what you mean by the last paragraph? Seems I’m in a situation where the secretary at work grinded on me during holiday party and we even kissed afterwards, but has blown me off when I’ve texted her for a date. Is this common behavior in your experience?
So, you’re ok with being her second choice or back up option?And you are 41? Nice! Same age around me...
Yes, no sex with this girl yet, just a little tittie action
She went cold on me but never officially ended it.So, you’re ok with being her second choice or back up option?
This is the 23yr old girl who dropped you after four dates right? She sent you a bland text about the class being good and you think she stopped contact with you because she got back with an ex or something and now she’s no longer with him. So it’s good that she’s texting you after giving you the cold shoulder? No, think more of yourself dude.
If you want to feel good about being an older man dating younger women, don’t put yourself into an older man orbiter role because a 41yr old orbiting a 23yr old is more pathetic than a 23yr old orbiting another 23yr old.
Part of being an older man attracting younger women is having the confidence and self assurance that much younger men don’t have. You will not do yourself any favours being a second option to a 23yr woman with oodles of options. She won’t respect you and you won’t respect yourself for allowing that to happen.
I bet you can do better than that. Don’t waste time on this girl, find another young one with more interest.
Ever her of #metoo?Have some self respect. Last time I went 4 dates with no sex I told her after thrusting her up against the wall with her top off and pants half way down that I wasn't waiting around anymore. Let her know that sex is happening if there is going to be a 5th date.
ps. I snagged a 21yo a few weeks ago. Shot down her cahk blocking friends. Took her home and rocked that little girls world. I haven't spent a dime on her yet. She comes over for drinks, dancing in my living room, and sex. No dates needed with this one.
Corey Wayne is right, this girls behavior changed after our fourth date and her behavior went cold.
I chased a little bit, but then backed off completely. We saw each other in gym class and she was distant.
I see her this past week in gym (after no texting each other for five weeks) and she was friendly. I didn't act bothered by the fact that she went cold.
Last night she noticed i wasn't at gym and texted me class was good.
As Corey Wayne states: She is putting yourself in your orbit and you must set up a date.
So, we will probably be hanging out next week sometime.
My gut tells me, an ex bf or another guy(s) was back in the picture and its not working out, so she had me in her back burner and reached out.
I am 42 and she is 23
Whatever bruh.Orbiter status - the forever beta male.
i dont think thats you but the Corey Wayne reference.Whatever bruh.
CW sells enough truths with enough lies to keep you coming back.Whatever bruh.
CW is a beta. Plain and simple.CW sells enough truths with enough lies to keep you coming back.
I need help, I don’t give them all the pie before smash. I smash very quickly, I’m good at bypassing defences, then it snowballs into relationship too fast with women I simply want to smash.CW is a beta. Plain and simple.
He is a relationship chaser. It never works long term. IDC if you read his books 20000 times, it will fail you.
You get the girl interested by leading and holding frame, as long as she is attracted to you and you make her wet thinking about you.
You then start smashing her. You keep smashing her. Then you smash her some more. Take her out every now and then and then smash her. When she brings up the relationship talk you at least push away from it a couple of times, not forgetting to smash her again.
It never changes. You keep smashing these chicks and you slowly give them a little more of the pie through way of crumbs. Too many dudes give them the entire pie before they even start hitting it.
When you get a woman addicted to you (love) through the above process, nothing changes. You maintain your frame and she will continue to chase. You are in control.
Alpha Male Strategies is much more on point than CW. Yeah the guy is probably a little too direct for what works with my personality but its the same once you peel back the layers of the onion.
AMS will get you laid with women who find you sexually attractive.
CW will get you friend zoned in a second.
There are many ways that you can do it depending on your personality. What works for me may not work for you.I need help, I don’t give them all the pie before smash. I smash very quickly, I’m good at bypassing defences, then it snowballs into relationship too fast with women I simply want to smash.
What’s your advice on maintaining distance while smashing? I am a people pleaser, I say yes too much, I’m emotional and affectionate, I’m unwillingly hooking girls that I need at arms length and I don’t know how to stop this weak behaviour.
Just simply withdraw?
Agreed.CW is a beta. Plain and simple.
He is a relationship chaser. It never works long term. IDC if you read his books 20000 times, it will fail you.
You get the girl interested by leading and holding frame, as long as she is attracted to you and you make her wet thinking about you.
You then start smashing her. You keep smashing her. Then you smash her some more. Take her out every now and then and then smash her. When she brings up the relationship talk you at least push away from it a couple of times, not forgetting to smash her again.
It never changes. You keep smashing these chicks and you slowly give them a little more of the pie through way of crumbs. Too many dudes give them the entire pie before they even start hitting it.
When you get a woman addicted to you (love) through the above process, nothing changes. You maintain your frame and she will continue to chase. You are in control.
Alpha Male Strategies is much more on point than CW. Yeah the guy is probably a little too direct for what works with my personality but its the same once you peel back the layers of the onion.
AMS will get you laid with women who find you sexually attractive.
CW will get you friend zoned in a second.
I totally agree.Agreed.
CW is just a fvcking salesman who gets gullible men to become stupid orbiters.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.