Why don't women give you closure....

[oc16]

This seems to be true with younger women.

It would be nice if they atleast let you know where you stand instead of ghosting or having their texting activity drop off a cliff.

Are they afraid of hurting your feelings or do they see you as a back up option?

 

[AttackFormation]

The medium is the message. They do give you so-called "closure". I've never understood why some guys feel... I don't even know, hurt? offended? that they aren't explicitly told what intentions a girl has for them. Is it your ego? or do you actually feel sad? what is it? if it's just that you don't want to waste time, you wouldn't have made a post like this because you'd simply recognize that she's moved on and move on yourself, so it's an emotional reason but again, never got why this is such a big deal to some guys.

 

[Dr.Suave]

It use to bother me but these days I just take a page from their book and give em a taste of their own chocolate. F0ck em

 

[Glassguy]

It use to bother me but these days I just take a page from their book and give em a taste of their own chocolate. F0ck em

I ghost so many chicks that I should change my name to Casper.

I dont owe them a thing and its nothing they wouldnt do to me if they lost interest.

 

[zekko]

They want to avoid confrontation.

 

[The Duke]

@oc16
I agree, I like to know where I stand with someone. I don't like operating in the "gray" area. I prefer to not assume. Discussing why something didn't work involves confrontation, being direct, exposing yourself, being in control of your emotions, and is not comfortable. It takes a mentally strong person to do so effectively. It can be great constructive criticism.

If I dated someone and cared about them I want a "explanation" once the relationship ends. Helps me find closure and sometimes I learn more about myself from what they said. I can take that and learn to be a better person.

Talking helps resolve situations. You can't keep stuff bottled up, and keep rolling thru life. Its the same reason people need to go thru the grieving process when someone dies. Seek resolution now, live a happier life later.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I wish women with no interested in me ghosted me from the first second of interaction, that would have saved me time and hassle.

I also dont mind them avoiding confrontation, if no deal is going to be made no need to waste time talking.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I wish women with no interested in me ghosted me from the first second of interaction, that would have saved me time and hassle.

I also dont mind them avoiding confrontation, if no deal is going to be made no need to waste time talking.

Why did they bother you if they have no interest?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Why did they bother you if they have no interest?

Trying to boost their ego, grab resourches, trying to get a driver or any other parasitic behaviour women usually perform against those they have no use.

Glad I have a spider sense for such things and never felt for that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Trying to boost their ego, grab resourches, trying to get a driver or any other parasitic behaviour women usually perform against those they have no use.

Glad I have a spider sense for such things and never felt for that.

It raise your stress and makes you feel degraded. Why wont she use you for dyck?

 

[Von]

They want to avoid confrontation.

Exactly....

They want to avoid ''justification and the confrontation that might come from it''.... Also kids now (my generation of millenials) are not used to have ''responsibilites'' expectially ''social physical interactions''... The cellphone is the easy way out (and we jump at it more easily than any other generations)... Texting is much easier than Calling than Talking

 

[Ranger]

This seems to be true with younger women.

It would be nice if they atleast let you know where you stand instead of ghosting or having their texting activity drop off a cliff.

Are they afraid of hurting your feelings or do they see you as a back up option?

You’re applying man traits to women. This is a mistake.

 

[Von]

This seems to be true with younger women.

It would be nice if they atleast let you know where you stand instead of ghosting or having their texting activity drop off a cliff.

Are they afraid of hurting your feelings or do they see you as a back up option?

Men are Direct and use Logic for Reasoning. We are also confrontional to test our SMV.

Women are Indirect and use Emotions for Reasoning. Women use Social Acceptance to test their SMV.

To understand Women: You have to reverse your Men Mentality....

Ex: What make sense for a Men doesn't make sense for a Women.

Like some PUA used to say back in 2008: ''If it doesn't make sense for you as a Man, better apply it to seduce the Woman''

In short: Women who don't give closure = Women who tells you ''NEXT'', I am not interested in you dude

 

[Ranger]

The key is to not operate in their world. Be completely seperate. It all makes sense. Women are not a mystery. Not even close. If you need a mystery there’s some good books out there to satisfy a need for mystery.

 

[The Duke]

Don't let women pick and choose what standards they are held to. Set the bar high according to your expectations.

Women want all want the benefits that come with being a man, well guess what then they need to learn to communicate and resolve issues thru direct/overt communication like solid men do. They don't get a free pass in the board rooms of corporate America because they are "women" and seem to do fine. They are held to the same standards men are in the workplace. Why give them a free pass in their personal lives?

The only women I have ever been mentally attracted to were women that were willing to address issues head on and had the skills to do so. They were also the most mentally healthy and far less drama. Yep more rational like men, yet still feminine where it mattered. Kind of like @BeExcellent

Quite frankly I don't think most men are cut out to handle women like this. It threatens their masculinity.

 

[Ranger]

Don't let women pick and choose what standards they are held to. Set the bar high according to your expectations.

Women want all want the benefits that come with being a man, well guess what then they need to learn to communicate and resolve issues thru direct/overt communication like solid men do. They don't get a free pass in the board rooms of corporate America because they are "women" and seem to do fine. They are held to the same standards men are in the workplace. Why give them a free pass in their personal lives?

The only women I have ever been mentally attracted to were women that were willing to address issues head on and had the skills to do so. They were also the most mentally healthy and far less drama. Yep more rational like men, yet still feminine where it mattered. Kind of like @BeExcellent

Quite frankly I don't think most men are cut out to handle women like this. It threatens their masculinity.

Work and sex are two different dynamics.
They are not related. I doubt any woman handles her sex life like a board meeting. Lol

I don’t believe in the idea that men’s masculinity is “threatened”. They may not have much masculinity that’s for sure.
Men, as a rule don’t want a masculine/feminine woman. It’s not natural and is an illusion. Women do struggle hard to be men though. Have to give them that.

Men who say, “I want a woman who’s smart, analytical, Yada Yada Yada etc. are whistling past the graveyard. Who the fuk wants a woman who is a fake mirror image of a man? Most men aren’t gay.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

To keep you around as a backup

 

[Ranger]

The worst trend these days isn't just no closure though, it's the devaluation and then breakup. You get a ration of negativity in the pressure cooker of hot/cold even though the breakup was determined over unrelated reasons months earlier. Then you sit there internalizing all the negative traits you have when they were caused by the breakup process itself!

“So men don’t know when a woman is no longer in love with them?”

“No they don’t.” Rollo Tomassi

Falling subject to devaluation by a woman (creating a justification for dumping you), is the skill set of EVERY woman living and breathing.
There has to be a reason in her mind...if there isn’t one, she will make one up or find a little something about you and start needling you with it.
Automatic...”see you in a couple of days Betty. Give me a call. Bye”
When she starts knit picking? It’s way over. Lol
You didn’t catch it earlier.

 

[Who Dares Win]

It raise your stress and makes you feel degraded. Why wont she use you for dyck?

I'll ask them next time I wont talk to them.

 

[Ranger]

There is a subset of super feely passive aggressive women that give off almost zero signs other than a Judas "Kiss of Death" IL spike upwards right before they dump. Definitely the exception to the rule though.

I find them even easier to catch. If a woman blurts out an obvious shortcoming you have, from your own viewpoint, it is easier to go into agreement.

Let’s say you drink a tad too much. She comes up with...” You drink too much for me.”
Your are more likely to suddenly introvert and start looking at it. This is the kiss of death. If she says, “we have been drinking too much lately.”, that’s different.

She can dump you for drinking “too much” and immediately turn into a drunk bar slvt on the prowl when you’re dumped. Drinking way more than you ever would have.
See...in her mind, she was drunk and that dik she sucked doesn’t count for her number of diks. She was drunk. That never counts. Things just happen. So in her mind she still has only 21 partners instead of the 45 diks shes had.
Change the bar out for a party or most anything.

Now if it is passive...that should be an instant flag. Automatic. You get that internal feeling that you are suddenly less and she is more. The second you even come close to feeling that or suddenly thinking she’s way more precious than she is and you are just another dude after she says something...passive attack.

The less feminine imperative in you...the easier it is to see.