Why do so many women complain about online dating?

[bigdave17]

Well then, it should be easy...

Show us all what you've got.

lol

she is way below your league dude. You're a solid 8ish. She is a fat 6, don't entertain that nonsense. This is exactly what everyone complains about. You are way out of her league

 

[bigdave17]

Perfect. Let's test your theory: 6/10 women can land 8/10 men with OLD, no problem.

My face, your game. Go.

nah I got nothing

 

[davidcarr]

I go to bars, clubs, concerts, sports events, parties, festivals, vacations 12+ times a year, etc..., etc... etc... Money is not an object to me so I try to be in social situations 24-7

approaching and asking women out at all these events is immensely difficult

in real life, the process is extremely difficult. With online dating, the process is easy but results are impossible

But you don't approach of any of them so that makes you a loser.

 

[bigdave17]

But you don't approach of any of them so that makes you a loser.

usually the ones I like are in a situation where approaching is incredibly awkward

IE a cute girl out with 7 of her friends who clearly doesn't want to be approached. You guys don't give a ****, you would barge in and get rejected hard and claim it was a "winning experience" but I'm not a glutton for punishment

occassionally I have women approach me or who make it obvious they like me but it's always complete nonsense. They're nowhere near dating material

 

[davidcarr]

I hate to admit it, but bigdave17's trolling is pretty funny.

He doesn't even have inflated expectations, I don't think. He just wants to meet one hot or even cute girl for a relationship, if I understand correctly. The problem is, he's not willing to work for it. He's not willing to take a risk.

OTOH, I see guys get humiliated all the time. They bounce back. They try again. They're ultimately successful, in whatever way that term can be used in the modern context. The difference is they are willing to try and keep working until they achieve their goal, which is to get a girlfriend.

He wants some sort of super easy, foolproof 100% guaranteed formula and it's not like that. Not for anyone. Even those muslim terrorist billionaires with unlimited oil money have to work to procure their sex slaves from the western world.

Brad Pitt is supposedly the best looking man in the world and he married a vampire.

If the richest and best looking men get wonky results, so don't expect paradise on earth yourself as a struggling single guy.

 

[bigdave17]

I hate to admit it, but bigdave17's trolling is pretty funny.

He doesn't even have inflated expectations, I don't think. He just wants to meet one hot or even cute girl for a relationship, if I understand correctly. The problem is, he's not willing to work for it. He's not willing to take a risk.

OTOH, I see guys get humiliated all the time. They bounce back. They try again. They're ultimately successful, in whatever way that term can be used in the modern context. The difference is they are willing to try and keep working until they achieve their goal, which is to get a girlfriend.

He wants some sort of super easy, foolproof 100% guaranteed formula and it's not like that. Not for anyone. Even those muslim terrorist billionaires with unlimited oil money have to work to procure their sex slaves from the western world.

Brad Pitt is supposedly the best looking man in the world and he married a vampire.

If the richest and best looking men get wonky results, so don't expect paradise on earth yourself as a struggling single guy.

My issue isn't necessarily that I want the hottest woman in the world, it's that I have a very specific type

I like either Latin, South American, Middle Eastern, Mediterranean women. I like the dark features, dark hair, the thick legs, thick thighs, wide hips, etc... I don't like flat or skinny or pale women (I'm Armenian myself - in a perfect world, I would date my own ethnicity). I want somebody 23-28 - I'm 29 so a little younger cause I want to get married and have kids. They can't be single moms, can't be smokers or heavy drinkers, have to be into fitness and working out (or at least be open to it), around 5'2 to 5'9, cute face (say 7/10+), good personality, morals, character, intelligent, classy, well spoken. Something like this

Most of the time I go places, there's only a few girls who fit my type and they're in a situation where approaching is very very difficult.

I get approached occasionally - other times there are women who make it easy for me to approach them but they're never my type

 

[bigdave17]

Fine. Fair enough. I'll let it go.

Look, I'm an old fart. Inching up to 46 years old. I like to think of myself as aging like a fine wine, and maybe in many cases I am, but I am not in my prime with women like I was 20 years ago.

Nonetheless, I still do ok. Well enough, at least, not only to still attract women 15 or so years younger than me, but to even have current plates point me in the direction of women who have a high IL as well:

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I have women paying ME for sex:

https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/i-think-i-just-became-a-professional-wh0re.250152/

I occasionally go out to the city on VIP nights:

https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/a-saturday-night-fueled-by-old.246852/

I've had women fly in from 2,000 miles away to spend the weekend with me:

https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/wedding-as-a-first-date.241100/

I'm doing all of this at the ripe old-fart age of mid 40's, with at least 30 or so years chasing and playing the game with the fuzzy.

I'm telling you, right now, all of these qualities you keep advertising yourself as, all of these traits you find pride and accomplishment in... these traits you believe should land you the perfect girl for you.....

It doesn't work when you put in all up front.

It doesn't do the work for you.

It never worked for me either.

Personality, charisma, sexuality..... these are the things many women are drawn to right up front.

All the rest comes into play when a woman starts thinking LTR, which doesn't come automatically. That comes after a connection is already made. It comes when you've already got them. It takes them a little time to get there.

If all you say about yourself is true, you've got the good for the second or third step in the game. But you've got nothing up front. You need to work on "up front".

I don't disagree with what you're saying about personality/charisma. As I said in my other post, when I go out - there are occasionally women who approach me or make it obvious that they want to be with me. If I start chatting with these girls, we usually have good chemistry and they usually like me. The problem is none of them are ever anywhere close to my type. One time, I did have a hot Spanish woman who approached me at a bar and we had great chemistry but she ended up being a single mom so I turned her down.


The cute Italian or Spanish girls I want are in a position where approaching is very very hard. In my mind, it's totally hopeless/impossible and they're never single or in the market anyways.


I told you this before, give me a couple dates with women in my league and I would have a girlfriend in a heartbeat. I'm like a very good player who doesn't get any playing time. I have 100% confidence in my abilities if I get some actual chances around women I would consider dating


edit: age doesn't matter for men. You're a solid 8/10. I would argue you're better looking than me cause you're white and I'm ethnic. I might look much younger than you in the face but this only matters for women, not for men.

 

[davidcarr]

My issue isn't necessarily that I want the hottest woman in the world, it's that I have a very specific type

I like either Latin, South American, Middle Eastern, Mediterranean women. I like the dark features, dark hair, the thick legs, thick thighs, wide hips, etc... I don't like flat or skinny or pale women (I'm Armenian myself - in a perfect world, I would date my own ethnicity). I want somebody 23-28 - I'm 29 so a little younger cause I want to get married and have kids. They can't be single moms, can't be smokers or heavy drinkers, have to be into fitness and working out (or at least be open to it), around 5'2 to 5'9, cute face (say 7/10+), good personality, morals, character, intelligent, classy, well spoken. Something like this

Most of the time I go places, there's only a few girls who fit my type and they're in a situation where approaching is very very difficult.

I get approached occasionally - other times there are women who make it easy for me to approach them but they're never my type

Your issue is that you don't approach. Your preferences are irrelevant if you don't approach women. It's like a homeless person saying they only want to live in a mansion in beverly hills instead of a housing project in compton.

 

[bigdave17]

If you have all of the qualities, then this is going to be the norm. I have women approaching me that I have no interest in either. It's par for the course, not something to complain about.



Crash through it. There is nothing impossible about simple socializing.

yea but what are the odds that a hot 27 year old Latina is going to be interested in meeting someone? 99% of them have boyfriends

Even if she does want to meet someone, the scenario is usually incredibly difficult. For example - her at a bar with 10 friends. Trying to approach that is incredibly incredibly awkward. You're talking about obstacle after obstacle after obstacle

 

[davidcarr]

yea but what are the odds that a hot 27 year old Latina is going to be interested in meeting someone? 99% of them have boyfriends

Even if she does want to meet someone, the scenario is usually incredibly difficult. For example - her at a bar with 10 friends. Trying to approach that is incredibly incredibly awkward. You're talking about obstacle after obstacle after obstacle

Most 27 year old latinas look like the goodyear blimp. Only browner.

First it was 7 friends. Now it's 10 friends. Next time you're going to claim she has a gazillion friends.

 

[bigdave17]

Most 27 year old latinas look like the goodyear blimp. Only browner.

Are you drunk? I see tons of hot Latin women around here

First it was 7 friends. Now it's 10 friends. Next time you're going to claim she has a gazillion friends.

Whatever the number is, the difficulty level is very high

 

[davidcarr]

You say you are armenian? Most middle eastern guys struggle with dating. I have seen them get blown out very harshly on plenty of occasions.

I have even seen fat, ugly white women reject middle eastern guys.

Life is not fair. You will have to work harder than average. So if you have to work harder than average but you actually put in far less work than average or even make zero effort, what sort of results do you expect?

 

[davidcarr]

I cant even begin to count how many Latina women I have crossed paths with who were unhappy in their relationships.

Just sayin…..




Then you are not as social as you think. The more women in the group, the easier it should be to randomly strike up conversation with one of them to get into the circle.

You're over-thinking it.

I think he is defining "being social" as simply leaving the house and attending an event. Whereas most other people define being social as leaving the house, attending an event AND "talking to other people in a friendly way."

 

[bigdave17]

You say you are armenian? Most middle eastern guys struggle with dating. I have seen them get blown out very harshly on plenty of occasions.

I have even seen fat, ugly white women reject middle eastern guys.

Life is not fair. You will have to work harder than average. So if you have to work harder than average but you actually put in far less work than average or even make zero effort, what sort of results do you expect?

yes - For Armenian standards, I'm about a 9.5/10. I don't think i've ever seen an Armenian dude better looking than me. For white standards, I'm more like a 7.5/10. Americans generally think I'm Puerto Rican or Greek.


Keep in mind i want somebody who has similar features to me. I'm not going after pale white chicks - although plenty of them say I'm very handsome.

 

[bigdave17]

I cant even begin to count how many Latina women I have crossed paths with who were unhappy in their relationships.

Just sayin…..

Dude I don't want somebody who would be willing to cheat on their boyfriend

I want somebody with the same impeccable morals and character like I have

Then you are not as social as you think. The more women in the group, the easier it should be to randomly strike up conversation with one of them to get into the circle.

carrying a conversation with 10 random women sounds about as easy to me as climbing mount everest. Are you fukkking kidding me?

 

[bigdave17]

He's a wallflower.

I make friends and talk to people when I go out, but again you're not understanding my point. Usually the hot Italian or Latina that I want is in a situation where approaching is very very difficult


My natural dating opportunities that I get (women who approach me or make it obvious they like me) are never anything close to my type

 

[bigdave17]

Once again, this is the norm. It happens to me all of the time.

These women are not your limitation. They are your bottom.

You have to be more aggressive to taste the top.

I don't even know WTF to say in those situations (when they are there with a bunch of friends). The whole scenario is excruciatingly awkward

When they are there with 1 friend is the best scenario

 

[sosousage]

wow your first thread that i agree with or that I like since you joined ss

 

[bigdave17]

I once just randomly walked onto a party bus with 15+ women having a bachelorette party to ask who the bride was. Gave her a big hug, congratulated her and invited them all into the nearby night club.

Left with 2 girls at 2 am that night for an "after party".

You're not that social, Dave. You're fooling yourself.

how often do you get nasty rejections?

 

[Soflobro#3]

looks fat to be honest

would probably ignore her message

Lmao