Does it weaken a man’s frame?

[Spaz]

What's feminine is putting women so high up on a pedestal that in your mind they can do no wrong. What a joke.

Did I say that or even implied it?

Your level of comprehension needs some tuning.

 

[Soflobro#3]

I was scammed once when I first left the corps. Wasn’t a whole lot of money but it was 100.00 bucks.
I was pissed and then got over it by never falling for one again.
So I can see one being scammed. Once. Did I blame the scammer? At first I did. But then I took it on as my fault. I became very hard to scam. When I read the 48 laws of power, I learned even more about scams.
If one did happen to do it now? You wouldn’t find the body.

Being so emotionally fragile that you get so mad over a $100 that you'd be willing to commit murder over it. That's litterally someones life. Now that is as beta as putting women so high on a pedestal that they can do no wrong.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Did I say that or even implied it?

Your level of comprehension needs some tuning.

Yes you implied it by implying its always the man's fault if she cheats. This is absolutely putting women on a pedestal and society, which is largely blue pill, has also had this same perception about relationships for a very long time.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Blaming everything else is not only feminine but cowardly.

Edit : Each time a man blames women that's 1 step forward into the feminine narrative.

Each time a man acknowledges his failure, act accordingly by dismissing and improves by learning via ownership then that's 1 step into the masculine narrative

Lol no it's not. That's how you become a door mat, by not calling these women out once in a while. You should call her out once in a while because it gives her the full range of emotions and some drama. A Rollercoaster rude of emotions keeps women hooked on you. They need and crave it.

 

[Ranger]

Being so emotionally fragile that you get so mad over a $100 that you'd be willing to commit murder over it. That's litterally someones life. Now that is as beta as putting women so high on a pedestal that they can do no wrong.

Not at all. Where are you getting this?
A man doesn’t let people get away with doing them wrong. He does not turn the other cheek. He confronts them. I would give him a chance to return the money. With interest.
What’s murder? I would not kill a human being for self gain. I think you have that backwards. I’m not after the fruits of his labor.
The second you turn the other cheek on a woman...I guarantee she will slap that side too.

 

[Soflobro#3]

I'm not sure who is right here. I default to Sof's position because it's more logical, but
I tend to choose to believe whatever would be most beneficial.

What is the benefit to adopting AWALT but we still have control? Seems like not much control to me.

Awalt is true to an extent but women come from l sorts of environments and cultures and I've experienced this. I think a woman's experiences from childhood shape how bad she's going to be. Some women are less crazy and that's a fact. Some women have more of a capability to check themselves and think about their actions and how it will affect other people.

 

[Ranger]

Yes you implied it by implying its always the man's fault if she cheats. This is absolutely putting women on a pedestal and society, which is largely blue pill, has also had this same perception about relationships for a very long time.

Oh boy. That’s not what he said or even implied. It’s a concept of owning it. If you go into a relationship with a woman, from that point on...if it happens to you it’s your fault. Or more accurately, your responsibility. All of it. To not do this is to become a victim. Do you understand this higher level concept?

 

[Soflobro#3]

Oh boy. That’s not what he said or even implied. It’s a concept of owning it. If you go into a relationship with a woman, from that point on...if it happens to you it’s your fault. Or more accurately, your responsibility. All of it. To not do this is to become a victim. Do you understand this higher level concept?

Saying it's always a man's fault if she cheats is putting women on a pedestal. I'm not saying it is never a man's fault or even partially his fault.

 

[Spaz]

Yes you implied it by implying its always the man's fault if she cheats. This is absolutely putting women on a pedestal and society, which is largely blue pill, has also had this same perception about relationships for a very long time.

Of course it's ur fault when she cheats.

Does it mean putting her the pedestal? No.

A woman cheats because you empower her to do so by being beta, supplicate to her narratives, bad leadership, inability to dismiss...etc...and the list is indeed long.

This is why men who continues to blame women always inadvertently ends up being cheated on. Just look inward and you'll find that to be the truth.

But the truth hurts, sometimes too badly and as a result men will by default revert to blaming women as this is his only defence mechanism to cope at that moment until he transcends this state.

Once that shift occurs then and only then can he see things for which is truly are and the cycle is thus broken.

 

[Ranger]

Saying it's always a man's fault if she cheats is putting women on a pedestal. I'm not saying it is never a man's fault or even partially his fault.

A actually I’m not. Not even close. A woman will NEVER be my equal. Not in my realm of responsibility. And the idea that they are adults within the concept of man think is absolutely false date. So false that it will lead you to failure.
This is not about the woman. This is about the man. You keep bringing up the woman. Woman cheats. Woman lies. Etc.
This is feminine. It’s not about the nail!!!!
You have a nail in your forehead. It’s your false ideas.

 

[Soflobro#3]

It is, it's the idea that if you take care of business then she will be faithful. Except, we as men know that is not automatically true of us men. Our faithfulness comes from values and options and nothing to do with her frame really. It is pedestalizing women to claim they are inherently loyal but for men being weak. It's like something from the middle ages but uttler rejected before and after that chivalric period.

Then their next argument will be that you didn't improve yourself enough. You can only improve so far so fast from the position you are in in life. If man who is smiliar to you but just has more money comes along and steals your gf, you could have had solid and perfect frame and it had nothing to do with it. Relationships are not always that simple.

 

[Ranger]

Of course it's ur fault when she cheats.

Does it mean putting her the pedestal? No.

A woman cheats because you empower her to do so by being beta, supplicate to her narratives, bad leadership, inability to dismiss...etc...and the list is indeed long.

This is why men who continues to blame women always inadvertently ends up being cheated on. Just look inward and you'll find that to be the truth.

But the truth hurts, sometimes too badly and as a result men will by default revert to blaming women as this is his only defence mechanism to cope at that moment until he transcends this state.

Once that shift occurs then and only then can he see things for which is truly are and the cycle is thus broken.

Nice!!!

 

[Soflobro#3]

Of course it's ur fault when she cheats.

Does it mean putting her the pedestal? No.

A woman cheats because you empower her to do so by being beta, supplicate to her narratives, bad leadership, inability to dismiss...etc...and the list is indeed long.

This is why men who continues to blame women always inadvertently ends up being cheated on. Just look inward and you'll find that to be the truth.

But the truth hurts, sometimes too badly and as a result men will by default revert to blaming women as this is his only defence mechanism to cope at that moment until he transcends this state.

Once that shift occurs then and only then can he see things for which is truly are and the cycle is thus broken.

Lol. A woman can cheat for any reason at all. It's not just because you act beta. A woman can just have poor character because she's a sh1tty person because she was raised to be like that. You have very concrete thinking on this topic. It's not always as simple as act beta and get cheated on.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Exactly. I mean my last two women I took from professional bodybuilders and athletes who had great frame. The more you improve the higher value the women and less loyalty/more entitlement.

You mean the hotter they are? They probably do that all the time because it's their character. They probably got bored of their ex bfs. It'll probably happen to you to regardless of how you behave. Maybe it'll happen faster if you act beta, but it'll happen regardless.

 

[Spaz]

Lol. A woman can cheat for any reason at all. It's not just because you act beta. A woman can just have poor character because she's a sh1tty person because she was raised to be like that. You have very concrete thinking on this topic. It's not always as simple as act beta and get cheated on.

If she's a ****ty person then why are you with her?

Why do you accept her into your frame, into ur life ?

Don't blame women if it's ur standards r low to begin with.

Blame urself for having low standards.

 

[Ranger]

You mean the hotter they are? They probably do that all the time because it's their character. They probably got bored of their ex bfs. It'll probably happen to you to regardless of how you behave. Maybe it'll happen faster if you act beta, but it'll happen regardless.

Go and stay MGTOW. Based on what you have been saying...you see an unsolvable situation for which a solution Is being demanded. That is a feminine trait. Ever notice how a woman has a problem. No matter what you say, it isn’t solvable? Round and round it goes. It’s circular. Then it’s you not listening. Then it’s something else. Then it’s this and it’s that and pretty soon you get pissed because a simpleton little boy could solve it.
Everything pointing away from her. Zero responsibility. Absolutely zero.
Well you have a nail in your head and you refuse to take it out. That’s feminine.
Zero responsibility. Take the nail out of your head.

 

[Spaz]

Exactly. I mean my last two women I took from professional bodybuilders and athletes who had great frame. The more you improve the higher value the women and less loyalty/more entitlement. I miss the old days before I improved when I believed the way these guys do, because I had something more tangible to work towards, but the marginal reward for improvement decreased pretty quickly.

What improvement is that ? Details.

If you're talking abt anesthetic improvements or even pua tactics, that's playing into the feminine narratives by being supplicant to their outward desires.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Yes, the one I'm dating now went from "I'm not seeing anyone else" to "we need to take things slow because of distance" in the span of one week lol. That's how fast this game moves.

I think a lot of women are like this. I've been fortunate to kind of be able to find women who are not like this. And no they were not fat women, maybe their faces are more plain but their bodies were always nice and i don't think they had high partner counts because i spent a lot of time making them comfortable and letting them talk about themselves, enough to be able to tell. It also probably had a lot to do with how I was raised and the dynamic between my parents. I think my mom had only a couple of guys before my dad, and my mom always told me "a good girl will pay for herself".

 

[Spaz]

Because the market sucks and it isn't always that obvious.

However very true that if you are strong enough to resist and remain single that is a frame that can seriously help you keep high standards.

I agree. The market sucks for low poor framed men.

Does these men wish to improve?

How do they improve? Is it external improvements that actually caters to feminine narratives?

Or they look inwardly and improve from the inside that ultimately attracts women by his behaviours?

 

[Soflobro#3]

Go and stay MGTOW. Based on what you have been saying...you see an unsolvable situation for which a solution Is being demanded. That is a feminine trait. Ever notice how a woman has a problem. No matter what you say, it isn’t solvable? Round and round it goes. It’s circular. Then it’s you not listening. Then it’s something else. Then it’s this and it’s that and pretty soon you get pissed because a simpleton little boy could solve it.
Everything pointing away from her. Zero responsibility. Absolutely zero.
Well you have a nail in your head and you refuse to take it out. That’s feminine.
Zero responsibility. Take the nail out of your head.

I never said the situation was unsolvable. It's not always about having the expectation of being able to "solve" the situation. It's about not having expectations for a desired outcome. I've always just rolled with the punches and took it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. I rarely have a plan. And it's worked well for me.

Women dump me because sometimes I'm kind of lazy and unmotivated. They expect me to be responsible and get my life in order but for some reason I just don't care enough to do it. I'm not really sure why I do what I do sometimes, and no you dont know me and you don't have a solution for me. Inb4 you act like you know better. Doing the right thing in life, following rules and norms, and always being responsible is very beta, because you're not living in your own frame regardless of the cost.