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[mrgoodstuff]

Oh yeah I've done keto for months. Tried that in university many years ago. It was one of the first things i tried. Lived on things like bacon, protein shakes, olive oil, and eggs. It's exhausting. You start to smell really bad from the ketones too. It's pretty gross. Didnt do anything for my body fat at all. Just lost a load of muscle.

Then tried aggressive and gradual bulk cut cycles with 200-500 calorie daily excesses and deficiencies. Again tended to just lose muscle on the cuts and body fat stays the same. Always with at least 1g protein per kg body weight and usually 1g protein per lb body weight.

Most recently ive done intermittent fasting the past 9-12 months continuously. Dizzy most days by the time I'm due to eat but I figured it was still worth the effort. Bioimpedance scale reads the same and I look the same. Still continuing with it though.

I don't think there's anything else I can try. I'm just gonna keep eating healthy and exercising but I would need to drop around 5% body fat to get nice abs and that was equally true 15 years ago. I weigh the exact same and fit the same clothes as I did when I was 20. So while exercise and diet is preventing me from deteriorating with age, I don't seem to be able to do much better either.

I used to get so bummed out over it. Having nice abs has been a dream of mine since I was 15 and started lifting weights and going for runs. Seemed like an easy way to boost your SMV. All it would take is some hard work which I'm not averse to. But that's not what's happened. I don't really stress about it anymore though its still disappointing.

I know too many examples of guys who have ripped bodies and have done only a tiny fraction of what I've done to get there. One of my other cousins is a personal trainer. When he bulks he eats 3000 calories a day and gains pure muscle. Never loses definition. Not on juice either. Exercises normally 3-5 times a week. Nothing unusual. Some guys are just designed for this.

Oh yeah I've done keto for months. Tried that in university many years ago. It was one of the first things i tried. Lived on things like bacon, protein shakes, olive oil, and eggs. It's exhausting. You start to smell really bad from the ketones too. It's pretty gross. Didnt do anything for my body fat at all. Just lost a load of muscle.

Then tried aggressive and gradual bulk cut cycles with 200-500 calorie daily excesses and deficiencies. Again tended to just lose muscle on the cuts and body fat stays the same. Always with at least 1g protein per kg body weight and usually 1g protein per lb body weight.

Most recently ive done intermittent fasting the past 9-12 months continuously. Dizzy most days by the time I'm due to eat but I figured it was still worth the effort. Bioimpedance scale reads the same and I look the same. Still continuing with it though.

I don't think there's anything else I can try. I'm just gonna keep eating healthy and exercising but I would need to drop around 5% body fat to get nice abs and that was equally true 15 years ago. I weigh the exact same and fit the same clothes as I did when I was 20. So while exercise and diet is preventing me from deteriorating with age, I don't seem to be able to do much better either.

I used to get so bummed out over it. Having nice abs has been a dream of mine since I was 15 and started lifting weights and going for runs. Seemed like an easy way to boost your SMV. All it would take is some hard work which I'm not averse to. But that's not what's happened. I don't really stress about it anymore though its still disappointing.

I know too many examples of guys who have ripped bodies and have done only a tiny fraction of what I've done to get there. One of my other cousins is a personal trainer. When he bulks he eats 3000 calories a day and gains pure muscle. Never loses definition. Not on juice either. Exercises normally 3-5 times a week. Nothing unusual. Some guys are just designed for this.

Excuses. It sounds like you did the ketogenic diet and over did it on the fats. If you eat too many calories you will remain fat.

Also everyone body respond different

Try this for ten weeks and add in at least 30 min of daily cardio:

.8gram of protein per lb of bodyweight .

No more than 50 grams ofr carbs . Do that preferably one hr before workout.

Fats at 30-40grams

Consume nothing processed

3-5 days of weights. 2 days of core and or abs.

The cardio and diet will strip fat.

 

[JonnyX]

Excuses. It sounds like you did the ketogenic diet and over did it on the fats. If you eat too many calories you will remain fat.

Also everyone body respond different

Try this for ten weeks and add in at least 30 min of daily cardio:

.8gram of protein per lb of bodyweight .

No more than 50 grams ofr carbs . Do that preferably one hr before workout.

Fats at 30-40grams

Consume nothing processed

3-5 days of weights. 2 days of core and or abs.

The cardio and diet will strip fat.

I'm not that keen to do more keto for a few reasons. Its very hard on the body and not sustainable long term. It also didnt work for me last time when I was also alternating gym and running.

Also most keto guides suggest:

"Generally, the macronutrient ratio varies within the following ranges: 60-75% of calories from fat (or even more), 15-30% of calories from protein, and. 5-10% of calories from carbs."

So I don't think I was doing anything wrong. My protein was absolutely high enough and my carbs were low enough.

I lost a load of weight but as always when I cut it was as much muscle as fat so the body fat doesn't change. That's always been my problem. I have no problem gaining or losing weight. I have problems selectively preserving muscle. Its depressing as **** when every time you cut your lifts just start dropping week by week.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm not that keen to do more keto for a few reasons. Its very hard on the body and not sustainable long term. It also didnt work for me last time when I was also alternating gym and running.

Also most keto guides suggest:

"Generally, the macronutrient ratio varies within the following ranges: 60-75% of calories from fat (or even more), 15-30% of calories from protein, and. 5-10% of calories from carbs."

So I don't think I was doing anything wrong. My protein was absolutely high enough and my carbs were low enough.

I lost a load of weight but as always when I cut it was as much muscle as fat so the body fat doesn't change. That's always been my problem. I have no problem gaining or losing weight. I have problems selectively preserving muscle. Its depressing as **** when every time you cut your lifts just start dropping week by week.

I'm not a fan of keto. The keto fat calc kills most people. Like you I can't consume too high of a fat or too high of a carb or I'll get fat . And I need enough protein or my muscles get eaten up.

I gave you what works for me and it works like clockwork . 2-3 lb of straight fat ripped off weekly.

 

[JonnyX]

I'm not a fan of keto. The keto fat calc kills most people. Like you I can't consume too high of a fat or too high of a carb or I'll get fat . And I need enough protein or my muscles get eaten up.

I gave you what works for me and it works like clockwork . 2-3 lb of straight fat ripped off weekly.

Okay here's what you said:

Try this for ten weeks and add in at least 30 min of daily cardio:
.8gram of protein per lb of bodyweight .
No more than 50 grams ofr carbs . Do that preferably one hr before workout.
Fats at 30-40grams

So if I'm starting at 150 lb, that's:

120 g protein = 480 calories
50 g carbs = 200 calories
35 g fat = 315
___
995 calories

That's an enormous calorie deficit. I will lose an enormous amount of weight.

I have no problem eating very little. I can skip entire days of eating with not too much trouble. But I've done big deficits like that before - it was the first way I tried cutting and my strength bottoms out very fast. Muscles disappear very rapidly. That's basically what I was doing on keto only with a bit more calories (though some days it was that low just because I was so grossed out by the diet I didn't want to eat).

And what you're suggesting IS keto. Keto is basically:

- Keep carbs under 50 grams a day
- Eat up to 1g/lb protein of body weight
- Make up whatever degree of deficit you want the rest of the way with fat

What you're suggesting is just a very aggressive deficit keto.

How often do you do this? What do you do for maintenance? What's a typical day's diet for you on the cut or on maintenance?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Okay here's what you said:

Try this for ten weeks and add in at least 30 min of daily cardio:
.8gram of protein per lb of bodyweight .
No more than 50 grams ofr carbs . Do that preferably one hr before workout.
Fats at 30-40grams

So if I'm starting at 150 lb, that's:

120 g protein = 480 calories
50 g carbs = 200 calories
35 g fat = 315
___
995 calories

That's an enormous calorie deficit. I will lose an enormous amount of weight.

I have no problem eating very little. I can skip entire days of eating with not too much trouble. But I've done big deficits like that before - it was the first way I tried cutting and my strength bottoms out very fast. Muscles disappear very rapidly. That's basically what I was doing on keto only with a bit more calories (though some days it was that low just because I was so grossed out by the diet I didn't want to eat).

And what you're suggesting IS keto. Keto is basically:

- Keep carbs under 50 grams a day
- Eat up to 1g/lb protein of body weight
- Make up whatever degree of deficit you want the rest of the way with fat

What you're suggesting is just a very aggressive deficit keto.

How often do you do this? What do you do for maintenance? What's a typical day's diet for you on the cut or on maintenance?

Only for as long as it takes to get lean as I want. So 2-3 months. I'm monitoring the skin pinch in my abs.


After I'm lean as I want I'll drop some cardio and add some carbs. On me my carbs raise to 100-150grams. I'm just not the guy who can eat 3,4,500 grams of carbs, I'll get fat!

The .8 I mentioned is the lower bound of protein . .5gram per lb is not enough muscle gets lost. .7 or .8 gram per lb is about the absolute lower end, 1 gram or 1.1 or 1.2 is safer.

Don't do cheat days at all while your ripping fat .

You also need to build the musculature in your abs.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I just saw your numbers. Up your protein to 160. Up your fats to 45. Leave the rest the same .

 

[FairShake]

If porn stars are normal, I'm miniscule

 

[Pandora]

This is partly why girls have a low self esteem. They know that underneath that thin veneer of makeup lies a plain looking face. Makeup is everything for a woman! You are also right that just being thin with a plain face gives women indescribably options in America. The bar is set so low.