You approach 10 random women in a bar/club ... What's the breakdown of typical responses?

[mrgoodstuff]

I think it’s necessary for people more on the beginner/intermediate-ish side to experience rejection a lot, at least initially until it doesn’t phase them anymore.

That in itself will project positively in your body language and mindset IMO which will then improve your success almost without you noticing it.

I think they should be fvcking in addition to this . They need to know the difference sex has vs no sex . If u got a puzzy you can fvck whenever you like rejection is laughable.

 

[MrJack]

I think they should be fvcking in addition to this . They need to know the difference sex has vs no sex . If u got a puzzy you can fvck whenever you like rejection is laughable.

Well yes that trumps all

 

[mrgoodstuff]

All this bullshyt, feminism, the 2018 dating games simplified to the old BRO saying "I/he just needs to get laid"

 

[skinnyguy]

I know I could spam approach and lay 1 out of 100 girls I meet. But that gives them so much power to say “no”.

My game is situational game. I don’t mess with girls if they are with their friends at clubs unless I have a strong wingman.

 

[IKO69]

When I was doing cold approach in bars/clubs, I always aimed for approaching 10 sets of 2 girls before the night was done. At least then I felt like I was trying and not wasting the night.

I would generally aim to only approach slim girls, but sometimes i'd approach anything just for "social proof" or because it didn't matter either way.

Typical breakdown of those typical 10 from memory:

- 5-6 sets - Complete disinterest - either one word answers, turning away physically after one word, saying "I have a boyfriend" within 1 minute of engagement, or being outride rude in more aggressive ways.

- 2-3 sets - Basically polite but no interest really, just nicer girls who don't like being rude.

- 1 set - If lucky, might have one set where the girl hooks and asks you some questions about you or seems at least marginally into you. This may or may not go anywhere but it's usually fun.

These abysmal results are mainly why I stopped clubbing. 1 hour getting ready, plus taxi, plus cover, plus 2-3 hours in a noisy club, plus alcohol, plus taxi back home, and disrupted sleep for this? Hardly worth it. It's like a 7 hour commitment to get systemically rejected. If I went to work instead I could make enough for the highest grade hooker in that same time, though that's not gratifying for other reasons.

What's your typical outcome from hitting on 10 sets in a night? What makes it worth it for you?

Before you start telling me I "need to work on my mindset", keep in mind I'm a 5'7" scrawny Indian guy with a 4/10 face. If you're a 6' white guy with a 5/10 face, we're living in different worlds.

Thats the nature of the beast. You yourself did nothing wrong. In that environment you will fail far more than you succeed. It's crucial to understand this so you should not take it seriously. You have to go in with the mentality of not trying to hard just go out with the expectation to have fun. When you succeed it will have nothing to do with what you did.. You were simply in the right place at the right time. This is why it's stressed by some people to work on your purpose. The chick thing is totally random. You could meet a girl tommorow going to the Donut store.

 

[MatureDJ]

This is a pretty representative sampling of 10:

I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
I HAVE A BOYFRIEND
HA HA HA HA HA HA
(walks away before I can say anything)

 

[MatureDJ]

You will almost never experience rejection if you let the female choose. They already noticed you .

Good advice, but what if only fat chicks choose me?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Good advice, but what if only fat chicks choose me?

Fvck fat chicks or just get head until you land babes you attracted to. Or convince a heavy babe to get in shape.

 

[IKO69]

Good advice, but what if only fat chicks choose me?

It means you didn't notice the ones who weren't fat

 

[Macaframalama]

The club/bar/party scene is easy. For me anyways. I'll usually grab a beer and greet the groups of dudes I know, catch up, ask about any hear say of after parties and scope the scenery and then, when I'm done with the first beer or two, make my way to tables to meet random women. Bullchit for however long it takes me to drink another beer or two and hit another group of guys, shoot a game of pool or karaoke, then hit some more women up, rinse and repeat. Don't ask for their number right away. Mix and mingle with other women first to create a little competition anxiety. The chicks that want you to have their number will still be around and practically throwing ioi's or alot of times just come right out and say it. Tell you that you are cute and drag you on the dance floor. Don't open these sets with the intention of walking away with a number immediately. It's amateur. Employ a little patience and play the long game. Put me in any bar, club, party, etc and I'm closing 2 or 3 out of 5 and that's if I'm attempting to close that many, which I'm usually not. I'll meet as many as I can in between doing me and bullchitting with friends, but I'm only trying to close a few, if not just one. I'm looking for high interest levels and ioi's. At that point, its just take your pick. The ones I get rejected by are from me shooting way behind the arc, but you need to be seen talking to these women regardless. If you run into women that you have met in the past, greet them with a hug and prolong the touching for a little, while you continue the greet. Greet the dudes you know with a shake, bro hug and be happy to see them. You want to be seen as jovial. Ask yourself how a lion hunts and narrow your focus. Flailing shots all over the place hoping a target walks into the line of fire might get you laid once in a blue moon, but your balls are the only thing that's going to be blue in the meantime.

 

[Macaframalama]

You will almost never experience rejection if you let the female choose. They already noticed you .

True story!

You're also handing over your power, your agency, and placing women in a leadership position--from the start, you are letting her determine the frame of the interaction.

Absolutely not. It has always been this way and always will, otherwise guys would just be going around raping chicks. She will want to choose you, because of the frame that you have already established and the persona she percieves. I'm not advocating for guys not to approach, when they see something they want, but modern men are too damn thirsty and will approach anything with a heartbeat and a vagina these days, without even an afterthought of building attraction, raport, comfort, anxiety, etc.

 

[IKO69]

True story!

Absolutely not. It has always been this way and always will, otherwise guys would just be going around raping chicks. She will want to choose you, because of the frame that you have already established and the persona she percieves. I'm not advocating for guys not to approach, when they see something they want, but modern men are too damn thirsty and will approach anything with a heartbeat and a vagina these days, without even an afterthought of building attraction, raport, comfort, anxiety, etc.

Yeah I don't get this handing over her the power bull****....isn't that what you are doing when you tap dance for her? She ultimately chooses either way....but you might as well save some time by only going after the one's that at least want to talk to you. I don't see the point in entertaining chicks that don't give a single **** about you. So what if they are good looking?

 

[Macaframalama]

Yeah I don't get this handing over her the power bull****....isn't that what you are doing when you tap dance for her? She ultimately chooses either way....but you might as well save some time by only going after the one's that at least want to talk to you. I don't see the point in entertaining chicks that don't give a single **** about you. So what if they are good looking?

True. Like the "shooting behind the arc" reference I made before, odds are I'm not pulling her, but she plays her role regardless.

 

[MatureDJ]

It means you didn't notice the ones who weren't fat

Uh, I noticed them. They invariably said they had a boyfriend.

 

[redskinsfan92]

All the white women are going with black guys in Virginia

Ahhh. Now I understand your other threads.

Just so you know, women in 2018 are subtracting around 3 points if you're not white.

People have done Tinder experiments to prove it.

This guy for example who's probably at least a 7/10 latino and pretty ripped:

Gets FEWER matches on Tinder than this guy who is mildly balding and incredibly skinnyfat:

If you claim to be an 8/10 latino/Spanish looking guy, then you're probably only going to be able to get 5/10 girls on average these days. Female racism against nonwhites is steadily rising every year.

eg.

Just consider yourself lucky you got to be tall enough and good looking enough to get SOMETHING. Imagine being 3 inches shorter and ugly. Trust me it only gets worse, as I'm sure you can imagine.

I'd kill for your results. But I can also understand why you find them frustrating. Probably if you were a white guy you'd be getting the results you want and think you ought to be getting. Don't underestimate how much women care about this. White race is the strongest predictor of a good female response. Women in 2018 are more racist than stormfront.org

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Far too much mental masturbation.

You hit on bishs. You go get baee. Its justbin your nature.

Life's too ****ing boring not to try.

Outcome is irrelevant. Obv,calibrate and step your game up but, note, playing house and pandering to the feminine biological strategy isn't the solution.

You make moves because your are a man. Its in your nature. The actual move is irrelevant. Its about being the sort of man that is making moves. Its about path. Purpose. Life direction. Self actualization.

Playing house with a fat wife and a household full of kids most likely not your own while contemplation of going Kurt Cobain on the world is stupidity.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

All the white women are going with black guys in Virginia

They love BBC and single mother victimhood.

I find it all comical.

The double edge sword that is hypergamy, its pushing survival ofthe fittest, proliferation of superior genes, and yet its ingrained in female discontentment Ironically enough. Our species is proliferated by female biological strategy and hypergamy is encoded in her genes simply because of discontentment.

Is it any wonder why the laws cater to women?

 

[malz1]

They love BBC and single mother victimhood.

I find it all comical.

The double edge sword that is hypergamy, its pushing survival ofthe fittest, proliferation of superior genes, and yet its ingrained in female discontentment Ironically enough. Our species is proliferated by female biological strategy and hypergamy is encoded in her genes simply because of discontentment.

Is it any wonder why the laws cater to women?

So not only do you suck at communication but racist as well. Sounds about right..

 

[skinnyguy]

All the white women are going with black guys in Virginia

The hottest women in LA and vegas are all with Black dudes.

 

[redskinsfan92]

On the flip side, black women in Virginia are starting to go with white guys. It's all interesting to watch.

The hottest women in LA and vegas are all with Black dudes.