This 9/10 chick sucks so far

[captain55]

As sad as it is I don’t even think this girl knows how to **** test. I legitimately think she’s inexperieced The only time I’ve ever had a girl say something like sounds like an excuse to have a conversation with me in a bathing suit was a chick 18 or 19 years old

 

[flowtheory]

This is a beginning to be a pretty toxic thread.

OP: I’d like to hear more about the first date. And it’s already been stated; way too much texting. I was shocked at the level of chest puffing and chasing.
Set up the date, use a bit a humour if needed, then go from there. No need to have long discussions or try your darndest to get her in that hot tub or out your way. The texts read as desperate and scarcity mindset.
Plus, getting a woman in a hot tub is always better when it’s not planned also. Think spur of the moment

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I dunno I've spent a lot of time in the gym and I've had sex like 1000 times lol

1000 times?

Or 1000 different girls?

A person could have sex 1000 times by being in a LTR with one girl.

 

[captain55]

This is a beginning to be a pretty toxic thread.

OP: I’d like to hear more about the first date. And it’s already been stated; way too much texting. I was shocked at the level of chest puffing and chasing.
Set up the date, use a bit a humour if needed, then go from there. No need to have long discussions or try your darndest to get her in that hot tub or out your way. The texts read as desperate and scarcity mindset.
Plus, getting a woman in a hot tub is always better when it’s not planned also. Think spur of the moment

I asked her out a few days after I got her number and she immediately tried to have long convos with me. Was texting me way too much...I tried to minimize it and use texting to strictly set up meetups. This is when I am most successful. She on the other hand was calling me the night before our first date in her Uber on the way back from the club on a Friday night....I am not big on this becsuse sometimes too much talk before a date kills the mystery.

As for the actual date I took her to dinner at a nice lounge. Her body language was positive and I felt us connecting, and was going to game her at the bar afterwards. Unfortunately, her stepmom called her on the date and said her dad and her were fighting at home. She said she needed to leave soon and I saw her start to get anxiety. She said that her dad has ptsd....she lives at home with them.

I was frustrated obviously but tried to be as nice as possible. I did not try to make a move on her because the whole issue with her parents killed the vibe. I could see the anxiety she had in her face. The ride back was quiet because I was legitimately thrown off but I made some casual smalltalk

After the date I texted her “is everything good?” Out of Common courtesy And she said “everything is fine thankyou”

Up until the phone call, the date was going great...she was leaning into me, her body language was positive and I saw room for escalating that night.

 

[captain55]

Everyone has an off day. Tbh the more experienced you are the more compliance you get and sometimes the less able you are to be flexible in the moment because you are running on muscle memory of entitled compliance. One example is I am actually less likely to "pass" a jealousy test these days than I was in the past because i find the woman to be low value and irritating immediately. I'm a little more tolerant of ASD tests like the one OP failed but I could see myself being annoyed by this too if I was too busy to play games.

Good point. Let us not forget that most women aren’t used to Don Juan’s... and a girl that has been out with a lot of men with no game may not react positively to a player.

I see it like this. The girl came on to me...I was confident and made a fun time out of gaming her. We’ve hung out twice already...we are obviously both attracted to eachother . We can either play the game, or have a good time together. If not I will replace you.


Oh yeah there was one thing she said on the date “I hate when guys try to impress me. It’s cute at first but annoying after a while and it always happens ” when we were talking...

I told her “really? That’s crazy ....I mean.... I didn’t try to impress you”

 

[RichardTheFrog]

i find the woman to be low value and irritating

Hey me too!!!

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Good point. Let us not forget that most women aren’t used to Don Juan’s... and a girl that has been out with a lot of men with no game may not react positively to a player.

Do you honestly think that having large muscles gives you value in the real world?

Don Juan is not a real thing. Don Juan himself was a fictional character.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You understand that having large muscles looks good to women and therefore you are a good looking man to them? Do you understand that good looks are attractive to women?

It's not as impressive as building a million dollar business, even if they think so.

It's also not as impressive as recovering from a spinal cord injury after having broken your neck and back.

I could really care less what they find attractive because I have no respect for them. That's the amount of respect they have deserved in my mind. I basically expect them to be stupid.

And it obviously takes more than just muscles because there's tons of guys with muscles who are orbiters, etc.

 

[Reykhel]

I love how weak men would say roids when facing a man that has the body woman wants

This is false. I would say only a very small percentage of women "want" this look. If the freaky muscle look was what all women wanted I think it would be common knowledge.

Muscles ain't sh1t in reality. I did 4 years in prison. There were very few people I was scared of in there, and it wasn't cause they had muscles.

oh my.....I'm agreeing with Richard the dog on something.

I wouldn't say the freaky muscle look is scary. In fact, I'd say the guy always has both men and women ****e testing him, testing that frame.

“You free this weekend? Wanted to grab food somewhere low key and grab drinks. Turn the hot tub on..you feel me”

Why verbalize the hot tub? by phone/message? you're appealing to the logical part of her brain...

Why not just get her out or over to your house.......and escalate. In other words, get her over and maker it happen and instead of
feeling the need to tell her exactly how it was going to pan out...

I wonder was it the ego speaking rather than just letting charm (ie your personality take over).

 

[captain55]

This is false. I would say only a very small percentage of women "want" this look. If the freaky muscle look was what all women wanted I think it would be common knowledge.


oh my.....I'm agreeing with Richard the dog on something.

I wouldn't say the freaky muscle look is scary. In fact, I'd say the guy always has both men and women ****e testing him, testing that frame.



Why verbalize the hot tub? by phone/message? you're appealing to the logical part of her brain...

Why not just get her out or over to your house.......and escalate. In other words, get her over and maker it happen and instead of
feeling the need to tell her exactly how it was going to pan out...

I wonder was it the ego speaking rather than just letting charm (ie your personality take over).

OK here’s my opinion on the subject because I’ve been every size....190 pounds 200 pounds...220 pounds....230..... in my experience you will be most successful with women 190 to 210 pounds this is the look most women find attractive when lean... now occasionally some women will be into very large guys the bigger the better in most cases these women are often exceptionally attractive because exceptionally attractive women have a tendency to go for hyper masculine traits. Would I be more successful with women overall if I lost 20 pounds? Most likely yes. But I have gotten some 9’s to go out with me because they liked the freak look...so it’s tough to say.

And yes money should be your first priority. Both is ideal

 

[captain55]

This is false. I would say only a very small percentage of women "want" this look. If the freaky muscle look was what all women wanted I think it would be common knowledge.


oh my.....I'm agreeing with Richard the dog on something.

I wouldn't say the freaky muscle look is scary. In fact, I'd say the guy always has both men and women ****e testing him, testing that frame.



Why verbalize the hot tub? by phone/message? you're appealing to the logical part of her brain...

Why not just get her out or over to your house.......and escalate. In other words, get her over and maker it happen and instead of
feeling the need to tell her exactly how it was going to pan out...

I wonder was it the ego speaking rather than just letting charm (ie your personality take over).

Ok well your probably right but what’s done is done. How do I get her out with me now? I was planning on going ghost for a week or two...

Then again maybe she really doesn’t want to hang out with me because she’s fasting for four days.. who knows

 

[fanatic22]

Look at the subject line of your post. Frankly I agree with it. I would NC until she reaches out and then immediately set a date.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Women like different things. Women like looks and money and status and a great personality, not hospital patients. You have average looks, only daddy's money, no status and no personality. So you are 10/40, or the bottom 25% of all men. That is why you are here begging us for attention and advice, but ironically your 0/10 personality is also why you can't take advice given. You should seriously consider fixing your brain so you can have a 5/10 personality bare minimum, most room for improvement.

Hahaha.

Average according to.....

You?

You have no clue. I am 100x the man you will ever be.

 

[Banelord]

Remember that show the average joe? That was the real red pill in action...at the end of the day looks beat money or status depending on her age range...so if your into has been 30 year old that had so much ****. Then sure money is the way to go.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Remember that show the average joe? That was the real red pill in action...at the end of the day looks beat money or status depending on her age range...so if your into has been 30 year old that had so much ****. Then sure money is the way to go.

Show me hot girls that you've been with.

And also aren't young girls stupid as fvck? Are you gonna pretend they're not?

 

[Reykhel]

Would I be more successful with women overall if I lost 20 pounds? Most likely yes. But I have gotten some 9’s to go out with me because they liked the freak look...so it’s tough to say.

You do what ever body type you want for you.....which you are. I don't think you are going for that look saying "oh this is what gets me all the hotties". An above poster claims that's what all women wants. False. I'm sure you have seen all types of women with men with all types of body types. Perhaps not the beer belly look, best to avoid that.

Ok well your probably right but what’s done is done. How do I get her out with me now? I was planning on going ghost for a week or two...

Then again maybe she really doesn’t want to hang out with me because she’s fasting for four days.. who knows

Nah fvck that going ghost ****e. It's a bit reactionary. In my experience, every time I've done ****e like that they think I'm throwing my toys out. You said if you don't meet up that you're going to the beach with your friends, no? guess what? you're going to the beach with your friend.

Tell her you were looking into the cleanse as it sounded fvcking weird hippy like, but after looking it up you're interested.........now way you'd do four days though. Ask her to can she look you up one that would be a little shorter to clean out toxins or some ****e......get her going on a little compliance but it's also showing an interest in something she's into. It ain't kissing up to her. She know has a little homework assignment on one of her interests.......for you.....teacher/daddy.

Do you're weekend and then ask her out after it.

 

[CMNILS87]

I’m 6’4” if I was 210, I’d be a ****ing twig again.

OK here’s my opinion on the subject because I’ve been every size....190 pounds 200 pounds...220 pounds....230..... in my experience you will be most successful with women 190 to 210 pounds this is the look most women find attractive when lean... now occasionally some women will be into very large guys the bigger the better in most cases these women are often exceptionally attractive because exceptionally attractive women have a tendency to go for hyper masculine traits. Would I be more successful with women overall if I lost 20 pounds? Most likely yes. But I have gotten some 9’s to go out with me because they liked the freak look...so it’s tough to say.

And yes money should be your first priority. Both is ideal

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Haha ok bro. You’ve most likely seen me on fitness magazines...

https://ibb.co/b9JWy8

Ps Aren’t you the guy who uses escorts?
Lastly a woman thinking your a narcissist and then saying you show no value are contradicting. A narcissist thinks he’s better than the woman and ime it usually works

Jeez dude, how long have you been lifting? Looks like you've smuggled some bowling balls into your arms there! My gains are feeling less impressive.

Ding ding ding.

And the dad comment is just like wtf?!?!

And people say that MY social skills are retarded.

I don't think people regard your social skills as "retarded", I think you just lack self awareness and you're constantly contradicting yourself. Almost all the stuff you've berated the OP for here is stuff you do yourself all the time.

"Talking about you d*ck size shows insecurity" --> You've done this yourself with women (and the boards).
"And you think these little word games would change her mind" --> You don't even approve of "little weedy dates" with women, so why are you giving date-related advice?

Anyway whatever, never mind.

 

[Banelord]

Show me hot girls that you've been with.

And also aren't young girls stupid as fvck? Are you gonna pretend they're not?

Im just telling you want the rational male said..dont take it then..but the truth is well build men dont have to chase as much...the truth is the truth.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Im just telling you want the rational male said..dont take it then..but the truth is well build men dont have to chase as much...the truth is the truth.

Awesome cause I'm at Twin Peaks right now and there's tons of guys with large muscles that are sitting just like any orbiter getting nothing.

Guys that drive Lambos don't even have to talk. I don't drive it yet but I think it will work and if it doesn't, I really don't give a fvck cause these wh0res aren't worth anything in the first place other than a hole.