How do I avoid b1tches like this in the future?

[Knight of Roses]

Mini Field Report:

Match with a girl off Tinder. 8.5 - 9 in photos. Strike up convo, transition to text, set up date for happy hour.

She shows up 15 min late. No make up, definitely not as hot as in her pics. Conversation decent, I kino escalate with hand holding and then switch to the seat on the lounger next to her. She blocks my further escalation and switches seats to sit back in front of me. She then says, "I see that you like to move fast, but I take things slowly, I'm a traditional girl".

Then she orders food, even though I had explicitly told her, "Lets meet for drinks". Talks about how awesome she is at her job, how her boss respects her sh1t, etc... I kino escalate again and get blocked.

Bill comes, she doesnt even offer to pay. I'm think to myself, "F**k it" and cover the tab. Obviously as you may know, no kiss close on this date. I had lost interest and I think she did as well.

I personally don't think I played this incorrectly, I used the same method I use with all my plates, I guess she just wasn't feeling it. I'm not sure.

Analyzing this back, I feel that she was slightly inconsiderate and rude, I hate when girls don't even offer or make a gesture to pay.

Anyways fellas, any personality traits that you boys see I should have screened for in the beginning? I hate wasting money on girls whom I feel don't deserve my time. You live and learn I suppose, but just looking for pointers.

 

[soulforge]

Where did you arrange to meat? Pub bar or a restaurant?

Here is how I roll... I always put principle before puzzy..

On a date with me, If she had ordered food, I would have clearly told her, that I will NOT be paying for it..

To be honest, I don't even meet Online chicks in bars etc.. If they don't come straight to my house for a drink and then Bang, I just move onto the next one.

Paying for meals for ONLINE chicks is a complete waste of your resources.

I wonder how many other SUCKERS after you, will pay for her meals on a date, then end up going home alone to jerk off.

 

[Knight of Roses]

Where did you arrange to meat? Pub bar or a restaurant?

Here is how I roll... I always put principle before puzzy..

On a date with me, If she had ordered food, I would have clearly told her, that I will NOT be paying for it..

To be honest, I don't even meet Online chicks in bars etc.. If they don't come straight to my house for a drink and then Bang, I just move onto the next one.

Paying for meals for ONLINE chicks is a complete waste of your resources.

I wonder how many other SUCKERS after you, will pay for her meals on a date, then end up going home alone to jerk off.

It was at a Tiki Bar that has food on the menu.

 

[fanatic22]

Honestly, no. I haven't been good at identifying how texting IL translates over to the date. I guess I would just suggest a bar that doesn't serve food but I've never had a girl order food before me. Maybe you just had bad luck, this chick sounds extra sh1tty.

 

[fanatic22]

On a date with me, If she had ordered food, I would have clearly told her, that I will NOT be paying for it..

Might as well just leave then because this comment will be a huge turn off. Just order separate checks at the end, lol.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Mini Field Report:

Match with a girl off Tinder. 8.5 - 9 in photos. Strike up convo, transition to text, set up date for happy hour.

She shows up 15 min late. No make up, definitely not as hot as in her pics. Conversation decent, I kino escalate with hand holding and then switch to the seat on the lounger next to her. She blocks my further escalation and switches seats to sit back in front of me. She then says, "I see that you like to move fast, but I take things slowly, I'm a traditional girl".

Then she orders food, even though I had explicitly told her, "Lets meet for drinks". Talks about how awesome she is at her job, how her boss respects her sh1t, etc... I kino escalate again and get blocked.

Bill comes, she doesnt even offer to pay. I'm think to myself, "F**k it" and cover the tab. Obviously as you may know, no kiss close on this date. I had lost interest and I think she did as well.

I personally don't think I played this incorrectly, I used the same method I use with all my plates, I guess she just wasn't feeling it. I'm not sure.

Analyzing this back, I feel that she was slightly inconsiderate and rude, I hate when girls don't even offer or make a gesture to pay.

Anyways fellas, any personality traits that you boys see I should have screened for in the beginning? I hate wasting money on girls whom I feel don't deserve my time. You live and learn I suppose, but just looking for pointers.

You saw how she was rude but still tried to run her thru your process .

 

[soulforge]

Might as well just leave then because this comment will be a huge turn off. Just order separate checks at the end, lol.

Thats why i don't meet online chicks in bars, restaurants etc lol

 

[Glassguy]

In the dating game, if you are scoring a decent amount of dates this will happen. Of course we all want to connect with every chick we go out with and she (happily) pays for the meal and drinks, kino was good and the convo was flowing and then go back to her place to smash and dash.

Unfortunately that isnt the case.

In OP's situation- You should just take it on the chin, delete her number and move on to the next one. Its not going to do anyone any favors to make a big deal out of it after the fact.

If I ask a chick out, I expect to pay. How long I am there, how many drinks we have, etc. is a direct result of how well I am getting along with her (convo, attraction, kino, personality). Its normally never longer than an hour and a half. If my situation was like the one above, I would bail after 2 drinks, let her know that I need to run and pay the bill.

ANY chick that I go out with that seems to be interested offers to pay half of the bill on a first date. I rarely allow them to unless I know that I am never seeing them again. If I can afford to spend $15 on my drinks I cant complain to cover her $10 if things went well. Sadly in today's dating world, at least she showed up and didnt flake lmao. Thats worth a free drink.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

. Conversation decent

Please describe this. And how it's different than any of the other mundane small talk that comprises 90% of socialization.

 

[RangerMIke]

How to avoid this?

1.) Don't use on-line dating. I like to know what I am getting.
2.) If you ignore advice in #1, then set up a meet up. Coffee, mid morning or mid afternoon take no more than an hour. This isn't a date... this is just an interim meet-up so you know she isn't lying about herself. If she passes, go ahead and make a date, pretend it is like a day game pick-up.
3.) If you ignore #1 and #2, always understand that when YOU... invite someone out YOU pay. PERIOD. Do not get butt hurt expecting a chick to offer to pay when you have asked her out. If she offers great, otherwise if that bothers you screen her out and don't call her again.

 

[Knight of Roses]

How to avoid this?

1.) Don't use on-line dating. I like to know what I am getting.
2.) If you ignore advice in #1, then set up a meet up. Coffee, mid morning or mid afternoon take no more than an hour. This isn't a date... this is just an interim meet-up so you know she isn't lying about herself. If she passes, go ahead and make a date, pretend it is like a day game pick-up.
3.) If you ignore #1 and #2, always understand that when YOU... invite someone out YOU pay. PERIOD. Do not get butt hurt expecting a chick to offer to pay when you have asked her out. If she offers great, otherwise if that bothers you screen her out and don't call her again.

I've always liked your advice, what do you think about the food part? Am I looking it too deeply? I've been out with dates with numerous chicks, too many to count as I am sure all of us have. This is the first time I've had a chick order food for herself when we went to meet for drinks and then expected me to pay for it. Within the realm of normal or should I have reason to be surprised?

 

[ohrein]

She shows up 15 min late. No make up, definitely not as hot as in her pics.

Then she orders food, even though I had explicitly told her, "Lets meet for drinks".

Bill comes, she doesnt even offer to pay. I'm think to myself, "F**k it" and cover the tab. Obviously as you may know, no kiss close on this date.

I think she runs this game a lot. There are women who will use OLD for free meals and drinks. You're never obligated to pay and if you didn't have a good time and aren't going to see her again, why should you pay? I'd have just put down the cash for my share and said see ya later. It's up to you to make sure you don't get taken advantage of. Despite what many people think, I never pay for a first date. If anything, I want to see the woman invest in me. My current girlfriend ended up ahead on paying for drinks on our first date, so she spent more money than I did. Second date on, I offered to pay for everything but would let her if she insisted, which she still does to this day.

any personality traits that you boys see I should have screened for in the beginning?

Hard to tell without seeing text logs and profile, but even then it's hard to tell anyway. I would say anything that looks like "princess" syndrome and you can be sure she's gonna forget she's a feminist once the bill comes.

 

[RalphaWreck]

You got gamed. Next time carry cash.

It seems you do well on most dates so chalk this one up to experience.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It was game once she assumed control of your wallet by ordering food, even though you explicitly told her, "Lets meet for drinks".

You could've broke the date up right there, and you know it.

 

[RangerMIke]

I've always liked your advice, what do you think about the food part? Am I looking it too deeply? I've been out with dates with numerous chicks, too many to count as I am sure all of us have. This is the first time I've had a chick order food for herself when we went to meet for drinks and then expected me to pay for it. Within the realm of normal or should I have reason to be surprised?

If you invite her out, don't take her to places where there is food and do not set up dates during meal time. I'm old school... if you invite a chick out and it's mealtime then it's understood you are feeding her. If she offers to pay, great... but I never expect it. Set up dates and make it clear it's after meals...

If she still orders food, then you have a chick that does not respect you and has no manners... then go ahead and pay and make that you last date with her.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If you invite her out, don't take her to places where there is food and do not set up dates during meal time. I'm old school... if you invite a chick out and it's mealtime then it's understood you are feeding her. If she offers to pay, great... but I never expect it. Set up dates and make it clear it's after meals...

If she still orders food, then you have a chick that does not respect you and has no manners... then go ahead and pay and make that you last date with her.

He invited her to drinks. She obligued herself to food, running game on him. He couldve been ok getting up and leaving . I can see if he invited her to dinner.

 

[The Diver]

Anecdote:
Not long ago I invited a woman for a DRINK in xxx place, she said: " Ow,I love this place , they have a great food", I replied: Sorry I never eat on first date, she said "Ow,ok",,,,, few hours later she canceled, never to be heard again.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Anecdote:
Not long ago I invited a woman for a DRINK in xxx place, she said: " Ow,I love this place , they have a great food", I replied: Sorry I never eat on first date, she said "Ow,ok",,,,, few hours later she canceled, never to be heard again.

Oh, but you didn't "win" her . Lol.

Good man and good riddance to her freeloading azz.

 

[RangerMIke]

He invited her to drinks. She obligued herself to food, running game on him. He couldve been ok getting up and leaving . I can see if he invited her to dinner.

Again... the chick has no manners.... just next her. You can do what you want. You can call her out on the spot and say you are not paying... nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying what I would do, I would NOT myself order food, and if she did not take the hint, I would go ahead and pay then never call her again.

Dating is all about finding chicks that are right for you, if on a date, she does not behave herself then chalk it up and move onto the next one. I agree there are TONS of chicks that have no class and do not know how to behave. My guess is that if you make a date from some online service, you will find more chicks like this than not. SO back to my advice.... do not use on-line dating, but if you do... expect that sh!t like this will happen.

 

[Murk]

I had back to back dates Monday and Tuesday this week, Monday girl I'd had a first date with on Sunday (we split drinks 50/50). Monday I'd forgotten my bank and credit card at home - the girl paid for everything and got me nicely drunk. Even offered to lend me some money for the next day when I left her house for work.

Yesterday, I borrowed £30 from my colleague to go on a date as I hadn't been home from the Monday (stayed at the chicks house) and yesterday we split all 50/50 I explained I didn't have my cards on me and she offered to pay and bought me cigarettes.

How on earth are you guys being taken for such a ride with these broads?