That's a rape problem, not an incel problem. Two different issues dude.Do you read the news? There is an Incel problem in Africa and India. It’s called RAPE.
That's a rape problem, not an incel problem. Two different issues dude.Do you read the news? There is an Incel problem in Africa and India. It’s called RAPE.
Bottom line is that most incels aren't really incels, they're just guys with a rotten mind that would have gotten laid if they get their heads out of their a$$es. In reality it's denied self-inflicted celibacy, not involuntary.How does that further indicate that if the facebook post of the guy which mentioned the term (i.e. I had no knowledge of Stacies prior to reading that facebook post) for the world to see? A simple google search and bingo you learn all the terminology. You are making a character judgment based on general knowledge that is posted out there online that anyone has access too? What exactly are you on? Are you stoned?
How would an actual "nice man" respond? They would be happy about it?
Maybe your points are absurd. You are making a whole sets of judgments about me without knowing anything much about me other than I'm arguing with you. I just say "nice guy", and "Stacie" and all or a sudden you've been making personal attacks rather than having an intelligent discourse. You think every guy in a relationship or marriage is happy then? You can't really say they are incel (i.e. maybe marcel (incel within a marriage?). Or, if someone got a break-up then they are not technically incel until some time has passed after the break-up --- but people after a break-up are less miserable than an incel? How many people do you know have successful happy marriages that they are happy about which end well?
But it is 100% a racial matter. First of all, the concept of entitlement is born out of white privilege. If Blacks / Brown / non-whites act entitled they end up in jail or roughed up by the police. Look at all the 911 calls that are happening because of Blacks sitting at Starbucks, going to Waffle House or golfing in a golf course for example? You can't ask about being charged for a 50 cent utensil without worrying about ending up in jail if you are a Black person in America today. The only race that gets a free pass seems to be whites, so it's natural they are going to feel the most entitled and ready to act violently to protect what they see as a loss of grounds to how things were before like there is a war, right?
The idea that there is a social break-down and if society was how it was like during the 50's or earlier than people would thrive and there would be no incel problem....again white privilege. The board sites where incels operated on shared space with alt-right from what I heard? All of the killings (i.e. Soudini, Elliot, and this guy) are white people doing this or people who can pass (or be confused) for white? I asked the question, how many blacks do you see behaving like this? Blacks have a worst incel problem because even some prostitutes don't want to see them, and many of them are in jail for nonsense and there is no women in jail. If incel is becoming political with white (or pass as white by the racist criminal justice system) terrorists, then it's another political arm of white supremacy in general. What incel thing do you hear happening in the Caribbean, Africa, India or some other country in the world like that?
Okay so you agree there are some incels then. If most incels aren't really incels, what qualifies as a true incel to you?Bottom line is that most incels aren't really incels, they're just guys with a rotten mind that would have gotten laid if they get their heads out of their a$$es. In reality it's denied self-inflicted celibacy, not involuntary.
Any condition that physically makes it impossible or prohibitively difficult to have sex. The guys b!tching and whining about women who are otherwise physically capable of having sex are not incels, they're just too negative for anyone (other than like minded guys) to want to be around them.Okay so you agree there are some incels then. If most incels aren't really incels, what qualifies as a true incel to you?
Not so sure about that. There's a good possibility he might end up getting plenty of sex in prison.He will definitely be incel in jail.
She doesn't, but any one worth her weight knows one, when she sees one.What does a girl know about being a man?
Thought we were not making that about race? Unless you are dealing with hetrosexual stuff then it doesn't count as sex. Just like an adult can't have sex with a child, it's called molestation.Not so sure about that. There's a good possibility he might end up getting plenty of sex in prison.
Uhhh... No, if he gets penetrated in prison by another man, that's still sex buddy. Molestation is a legal definition. And idk what any of this has to do with race.Thought we were not making that about race? Unless you are dealing with hetrosexual stuff then it doesn't count as sex. Just like an adult can't have sex with a child, it's called molestation.
But if there is a physical condition that makes it impossible or prohibitively difficult to have sex, then that's called a medcel, I think. In the incel universe, there are many type of "fill in the blank cel", should do a google search for amusement. All the other sub-categories are not legitimate to you?Any condition that physically makes it impossible or prohibitively difficult to have sex.
Why would you conclude that anyone who is an incel is b1tching and whining about women? Many people are probably only voicing that type of frustration in some boards but they are quite happy and well adjusted people in real life. A guy could have allot of female friends and could be incel if nobody sees him as more than a brother. Just because someone is incel doesn't mean they can't talk to women and have some negative mind-set or are anti-social. It just means women are not being turned on that way in their interaction with them and are either getting turned-down or friendzoned when it comes to romance.Grewd said:The guys b!tching and whining about women who are otherwise physically capable of having sex are not incels, they're just too negative for anyone (other than like minded guys) to want to be around them.
No that would be his first or next murder victim.Uhhh... No, if he gets penetrated in prison by another man, that's still sex buddy. Molestation is a legal definition. And idk what any of this has to do with race.
Besides the point. He still would have been ****ed first and no longer incel.No that would be his first or next murder victim.
So kinda like there being many types of genders? B!tch please, that's just ridiculous.In the incel universe, there are many type of "fill in the blank cel", should do a google search for amusement.
Because every single one of these fvckers I've seen or heard about does it.Why would you conclude that anyone who is an incel is b1tching and whining about women?
Oh yeah, they're voicing their frustrations. Does it help them? Not at all. Does it make the world a better place? Nope. Happy and well adjusted? Hell no, I've seen these guys in real life and they're the exact opposite.Many people are probably only voicing that type of frustration in some boards but they are quite happy and well adjusted people in real life.
Again, the women are not to be blamed. It would be his own fault for acting like a friend instead of a sexually interested man.A guy could have allot of female friends and could be incel if nobody sees him as more than a brother.
Those people aren't incels, they're just extremely passive. It is not involuntary celibacy because they have every opportunity to take more action.Just because someone is incel doesn't mean they can't talk to women and have some negative mind-set or are anti-social.
Because these men act like friends instead of man to woman. They avoid sexuality and are thus never regarded as sexually interested, by the time they do reveal their true intentions it's waaaaay too late and they've already been labeled as platonic friends.It just means women are not being turned on that way in their interaction with them and are either getting turned-down or friendzoned when it comes to romance.
You sound very closes minded and then want to label the very construct as close minded? Now, don't you see there is a contradiction?So kinda like there being many types of genders? B!tch please, that's just ridiculous.
Really? How many do you know? Show me a thread where I'm whining and complaining about women that I wrote. It seems most of the guys whining and complaining on here can get laid, but not with the type of girls they want.Grewd said:Because every single one of these fvckers I've seen or heard about does it.
So you meet people from incel message boards, or people that are wining and complaining on sosuave and then go and meet them in real life? Listen to what you are saying. Again, how would you know any poster on this or any board, or if you do know people in real life, then how would you know so many of them? I don't even know a single incel in real life or have the time. We probably wouldn't get along anyway since these types are usually atheist or agnostic and incompatible with me because they are heathen as far as I'm concerned. I would be banned from most if not all incel boards, although I would entertain the concept myself. I mean you'd have to be an atheist or not know Jesus Christ to be that miserable, has nothing to do about whether or not you get laid.Grewd said:Oh yeah, they're voicing their frustrations. Does it help them? Not at all. Does it make the world a better place? Nope. Happy and well adjusted? Hell no, I've seen these guys in real life and they're the exact opposite.
I'm an atheist though. One does not need the belief of a 2000 year old dead fanatic existing in some undetectable plane of existence to be happy in life.You sound very closes minded and then want to label the very construct as close minded? Now, don't you see there is a contradiction?
Really? How many do you know? Show me a thread where I'm whining and complaining about women that I wrote. It seems most of the guys whining and complaining on here can get laid, but not with the type of girls they want.
So you meet people from incel message boards, or people that are wining and complaining on sosuave and then go and meet them in real life? Listen to what you are saying. Again, how would you know any poster on this or any board, or if you do know people in real life, then how would you know so many of them? I don't even know a single incel in real life or have the time. We probably wouldn't get along anyway since these types are usually atheist or agnostic and incompatible with me because they are heathen as far as I'm concerned. I would be banned from most if not all incel boards, although I would entertain the concept myself. I mean you'd have to be an atheist or not know Jesus Christ to be that miserable, has nothing to do about whether or not you get laid.
@corrector Look at this guy. According to the definition of "incels" he's an incel (not even had sex), but he has a strong spirit. He recognizes that he can make it happen and he plays a part in his success rather than the defeatist attitude of the "incels" where they don't even bother trying.Incels seem to be profoundly damaged, self-entitled morons to me.
The worst thing is they don't even have it bad. Lack of sex is such a minor thing to sit around f*cking moping about all day, they have no idea how luxurious their lives are.
I haven't been laid yet myself, and it's kind of a shame but it's fine by me. I haven't got with a chick I want to f*ck yet, the one time I actually did I was screwed over by her sexual health. That's just how it goes. I've dated a load of girls and I have no qualms about lack of sex, just mild sexual frustration occasionally. I honestly find the mindsets of these guys utterly alien.
Here's an interesting point: the last incel idiot to do something nuts (run over those people) was Canadian, right?
I was watching a WWII documentary about a Canadian fighter pilot today, and the s**t those men had to go through was mind-blowing. He had to fly an unreliable plane at 30,000 feet every day, killing people and praying he wasn't going to get shot down. If your engine gets hit you're going to either burn to death in your plane or slam into the ocean.
He was pulling combat shifts 15 hours a day to defend Malta, and in his free time not flying he was clearing rubble from the streets. He broke down and cried when he recalled seeing a bomb hitting the street in front of him kill a civilian woman he couldn't save.
If that incredibly brave Canadian man can go through that utterly horrifying s**t in his twenties and come out the other side, what right does some whiny little Canadian b*tch living in an age of luxury have to go nuts just because he's not getting his d*ck wet?
All those men that got conscripted into fighting in the Vietnamese jungle. All those people that died in the Soviet Union. All the people every day that have to go without food or water, or shelter...
All these incredibly tough and demanding things that men have been truly tested by over the ages...and these idiots are so entitled and self-absorbed that they think that LACK OF SEX is something worth spending all their time whining and crying about.
It's just unspeakably pathetic. They should be parachuted into areas of real deprivation and suffering and learn their f*cking place in the world. They're in the top 1%, and they need to stop being such losers.
When life has you down, you have two choices:
1. Wallow in self pity and cry about how terrible everything is and how bad you have it.
2. Grow some f*cking balls (or lady-balls for those of female persuasion), get some PERSPECTIVE and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
These guys choose 1, every time, until eventually some of them go nuts and do something evil. And it's not even something worth being that upset over.
He is not incel because he's turned down opportunities to have sex. The issues he brought up as to why he didn't have sex (i.e. he's worried about catching an S.T.D., he's dated loads of girls and wasn't interested in any of them). He's volcel as far as what he wrote. An incel is not going to be able to be dating loads of girls in the first place. I'd say an incel would be more likely dating girls once in a blue moon and put on a gargantuan effort just to do that. The very definition of dating means there has to be some romantic or sexual potential.@corrector Look at this guy. According to the definition of "incels" he's an incel (not even had sex), but he has a strong spirit. He recognizes that he can make it happen and he plays a part in his success rather than the defeatist attitude of the "incels" where they don't even bother trying.
In this case it was a van that did it, not a gun. Anyone can rent a van. Also he wasn't afraid of losing his life to the cops. He begged the cops to kill him.My two cents
These are evil people, not troubled, not mentally deranged. Troubles with women are part of being human. I met some people from India and the issues they have with women are not any different than the USA. These aren’t average dudes just randomly losing their mind and deciding to shoot up a Walmart. These are guys that when uncovered, have a bunch of red flags and skeletons in the closet showing true intent to kill eventually. Even if Elliot Rodgers was getting laid, he would’ve still killed. Listen to his videos, the kid was ******** evil, not troubled.
Now here comes the race part lol. This could easily be stopped without limiting gun rights. It is the racist American government that chooses to let these evil doers blossom to the point to where they kill because the government would rather focus on targeting minorities. If these were your average joe smiths that suddenly lost his mind and killed then I could understand. However, these are guys that have been showing clear red flag indicators of killing in the future, whether thru crime, social media, hate groups, fbi wanted lists and etc. It is your government that chooses to let these people execute their final solution plan of shooting up an elementary school because they just so happen to physically look like a harmless white male.