How the hell do most avg mid to late 20s men have dating lives???

[bigdave17]

really should I say you dating strategy is retarded enough now? or should I wait more garbage, self pity crying here before? you go out and find a girl you find hot, not asking where her family is from.


now on a serious note i'm the only one who is sure he is lying so much its not even funny anymore? worse is if any newbie belive on this crap

I wish I was lying bro

I shouldn't be dealing with any of this bull****. I should have a beautiful, professional, super sweet, loyal, fit awesome wife by now

 

[MatureDJ]

I'm talking about the guys out of college - most either have a steady girlfriend or they're seeing multiple different women

How do they do it? I'm a very good looking dude, clearly workout, impeccable fashion sense, great social circle when I go out, have the beautiful car, make friends everywhere and I find the cold approaching random women and trying to get a date to be insanely insanely INSANELY difficult. How does the avg 29 year old guy who is chubby, makes 30K a year and is much worse with talking to random strangers get dates?

Is everybody just getting lucky and meeting women naturally through friends or work? Why do I never get any natural dating opportunities like that?

The reason I mention this group is because this is when women are their absolute most difficult. 24-29 year old women never approach, never give any signs of interest towards anyone - trying to message one on a dating site is impossible unless you're a male model or professional athlete (you're competing with 53528305328205 other dudes). After about 35, dating becomes pretty even with both genders putting in equal amount of work towards meeting someone

Maybe you're not as good-looking as you think?

 

[bigdave17]

Maybe you're not as good-looking as you think?

i sent a pic to @guru1000, prolly smartest guy here and he said i was a 7.5

i look much better in real life than pics

 

[guru1000]

you're a 6+ tall, very good looking, lean and muscular extremely wealthy white guy. You're about the equivalent of someone born into a billionaire family.



you yourself said I was a solid 7.5!

my question with this thread is how are men my age doing it? its just baffling me. The women in this age range make the process astonishingly difficult. Is everyone doing the social circle thing and I can't get lucky with that?

After about 35, it becomes pretty much even with both genders putting in equal work to meet someone

We have the same skin tone. So now you and others can bury that defeatist racial rationalization.

This is not about Guru, however. So I'll reiterate the question:

Acknowledging your fear is the first step in releasing it. Second step is: What are you going to do about it other than cry "Wolf"??

 

[bigdave17]

We have the same skin tone. So now you and others can bury that defeatist racial rationalization.

This is not about Guru, however. So I'll reiterate the question:

Acknowledging your fear is the first step in releasing it. Second step is: What are you going to do about it other than cry "Wolf"??

yea but you're probably Italian or something like that where you look 100% European. I have a slight ethnic aspect to my face where I look somewhat middle eastern. I'm only 7.5 - you're around a 9 to 10

With online dating for example, you need to be a 10 to stand out. Me being a 7.5 basically makes me disposable

 

[guru1000]

yea but you're probably Italian or something like that where you look 100% European. I have a slight ethnic aspect to my face where I look somewhat middle eastern.

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. We have identical skin complexions.

I'm only 7.5 - you're around a 9 to 10

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. I can get a dozen 9s monthly. You are looking for one 7.

Now ... what are you going TO DO about it?

 

[djthiago1]

How can someone NOT have a dating life ? You gotta be a real creep/weirdo to not have one.

 

[bigdave17]

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. We have identical skin complexions.


Rationalization which doesn't serve you. I can get a dozen 9s monthly. You are looking for one 7.

Now ... what are you going TO DO about it?

couple things here

1)most women would rather share a 9/10 with 1000 other women than take a 7.5 like me who will be 100% loyal to them

2)You live in NYC where there are tons and tons of women who fit everything I want. I live in a suburb near Chicago...I have way way fewer potential matches and because of the scarcity, the women here who fit what I want have impossible standards (where as the ones in NYC know they're competing with 50 million other hot young babes so they have to limit their impossible standards at least somewhat)

 

[bigdave17]

How can someone NOT have a dating life ? You gotta be a real creep/weirdo to not have one.

not sure if srs

tell me one method of meeting women in their 20s that's not insanely difficult

cold approaching is fukking terrible
online dating is impossible unless you're a male model

meeting them through friends is fantastic but that requires luck and none of my friends know anybody decent

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

How do they do it?

Seriously? They have decent social skills. Humans have pretty much been meeting and getting down with other humans since the dawn of time.

Just because YOU suck at it doesn't mean everybody else does.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

vast majority of attractive and fit men like myself have a dating life with attractive women also

Because they don't suck at talking to women.

Your problem is you can't admit that you suck at talking to women. You need to reframe it into some broken part of the space-time-pvssy continuum.

If you notice any lack of skill, the general process is to keep practicing and keep getting better.

Pro Tip: Whining about your lack of skills on the internet doesn't actually increase your skills.

 

[bigdave17]

Seriously? They have decent social skills. Humans have pretty much been meeting and getting down with other humans since the dawn of time.

Just because YOU suck at it doesn't mean everybody else does.

step back here from the PUA nonsense and look at the general public

Cold approaching requires incredible good looks and overwhelming instant charisma and the ability to take a million rejections per time you actually hear a yes. Vast vast majority of men don't have the looks or personality to succeed at cold approaching. Even the 0.1% of men who have the potential to do cold approaching aren't gonna be okay with all the rejections you have to to withstand (huge percentage of hot 27 year old women aren't even gonna be single, huge percentage aren't even going to like cold approaches so basically you're working with 90% rejection rate even if you're Brad Pitt in his prime)

Online dating is only possible if you're 6'3 and look like a male model so take that out

What's left? is everyone meeting someone through work or friends?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm realistically prolly top 5 to 10 percentile of men for looks

 

[bigdave17]

*****

except for the part where guru1000, the smartest poster here, admitted I was around a 7.5/10


and I'm much much much better looking in real life than pics

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

ABC - Always be selling

Hate to be a d*ck, but the c stands for "closing."

 

[guru1000]

most women would rather share a 9/10 with 1000 other women than take a 7.5 like me who will be 100% loyal to them

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. I get rejected by HB7s the most. Ironic?

Here's the reason: 9 men don't lock down 6/7 women, but rather bang and toss these women if pay attention to these women at all. 6/7 women seeking relationships are looking for 6/7 men as they are safer investments.

I know, I know. Mind-boggling with all this hypergamy thrown around here.

You live in NYC where there are tons and tons of women who fit everything I want. I live in a suburb near Chicago...I have way way fewer potential matches and because of the scarcity, the women here who fit what I want have impossible standards (where as the ones in NYC know they're competing with 50 million other hot young babes so they have to limit their impossible standards at least somewhat)

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. These high-value women in your area are also competing for high value-men in your area. Quid pro quo.

I'll give you one last hint to your problem in my last post of this thread.

Ready?

In the last 12 months, how many women have you approached?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

except for the part where guru1000, the smartest poster here, admitted I was around a 7.5/10

So you KNOW you're hot because another DUDE on the internet saw your pic and agreed?

Jiminy fvcking christmas...

 

[bigdave17]

Rationalization which doesn't serve you. I get rejected by HB7s the most. Ironic?

Here's the reason: 9 men don't lock down 6/7 women, but rather bang and toss these women if pay attention to these women at all. 6/7 women seeking relationships are looking for 6/7 men as they are safer investments.

So why is it you go on dating sites and you can use a picture of a 7.5/10 male and you are guaranteed to get zero replies or messages and you use pics of a 9-10/10 and you get tons and tons of messages and replies all over?

the average 7/10 on a dating site is looking for a 10/10. LOL @ you thinking all men nowadays have super high standards like yourself

My buddy is a legit 9/10 - male model perfect hair, very handsome face, super shredded six pack abs. He married a 40 year old with 3 kids. She is a 4/10 in my eyes because of the age and having 3 kids. Men nowadays don't have any standards which is why a 5'0 6/10 female on a dating site can easily demand a 6'0+ 9/10 male

In the last 12 months, how many women have you approached?

Probably like 7 or 8

All of them went pretty horribly so I cut it off immediately before I was humiliated and I made the women feel very awkward or uncomfortable

 

[bigdave17]

So you KNOW you're hot because another DUDE on the internet saw your pic and agreed?

Jiminy fvcking christmas...

If I counted how many different people here have told me I was extraordinarily handsome, gorgeous, etc... in the last 10 years, it might take me an entire month to total the numbers

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

step back here from the PUA nonsense and look at the general public

Cold approaching requires incredible good looks and overwhelming instant charisma and the ability to take a million rejections per time you actually hear a yes. Vast vast majority of men don't have the looks or personality to succeed at cold approaching. Even the 0.1% of men who have the potential to do cold approaching aren't gonna be okay with all the rejections you have to to withstand (huge percentage of hot 27 year old women aren't even gonna be single, huge percentage aren't even going to like cold approaches so basically you're working with 90% rejection rate even if you're Brad Pitt in his prime)

Online dating is only possible if you're 6'3 and look like a male model so take that out

What's left? is everyone meeting someone through work or friends?

Damn dude, if you spent only 10% of the energy you spend rationalizing your failures on actually approaching and TALKING TO PEOPLE you would be a lot more successful.

You are TERRIFIED to cold approach, so you need to REFRAME the ENTIRE GODDAMN UNIVERSE as being unfriendly to normal people starting normal conversations with other normal people.

Suppose everybody did agree with you.

Suppose every (many of whom are getting regular pvssy) agreed that it's NOT YOUR FAULT for your lame social skills?

Suppose every said, "Gee Dave, you're right! Nobody can get laid in this messed up universe!"

What would you do THEN?

Why not just cut to the chase and do that NOW?

Like, turn gay, become a monk, buy a sex doll...