How the hell do most avg mid to late 20s men have dating lives???

[bigdave17]

Because both of those figures are nonsense numbers picked from thin air, probably.

Online dating is ridiculously unbalanced but it's nowhere near 99.99% difficulty to get a good looking chick. And you don't have to get rejected 100 times to get a date...it's not like your only chance is COLD APPROACH or OLD. Just talk to any chick you hang out with in a social setting and you can probably secure a date with her, hot or not.

If you don't have many chicks in your social circle, expand it with new friends and go to more parties.

Here's the problem with the social circle thing, If I make a friend who happens to have a great female prospect in his social circle, he's going to be trying very very hard to get with her. I'm not going to be that ****ing prick to enter a new social circle and try to get with a girl my buddy is trying super hard to get with

As far as online dating goes, you have to shoot about 4 points below your level. I'm about a 7-8 in real life but only a 6-7 in pics. I have a chance with a 3 online

Generally speaking, you have to be a 9-10 to get with a 6 female online

 

[bigdave17]

but that doesn't mean you'll have chicks swarming you

I'm actually not looking for that at all

I would hate if the dating roles were reversed and I had tons of ugly or avg women asking me out. I would hate having to turn them down. I just want 1 girl who fits what I want and I'm happy being out of the dating world forever

NOW to answer your question. Get to know these guys in their 20's. You mentioned having a lot of friends in this age range. Most of them have it rough with women and they're great guys who are good looking. The guys that do have relationships never planned it but stick to it due to being in a "comfortable situation" aka they get too complacent. Those usually never end well though. But one things for sure, when they get into these relationships out of complacency, the chick is usually not that hot or doesn't have the best personality.

not answering the question at all dude

How does the avg 24-29 year old male out there go about getting dates nowadays when the avg woman that age makes the process massively difficult?

Keep in mind I said AVERAGE. 99.99% of men are completely incapable of a successful cold approach.

 

[bigdave17]

I can create a harem of hot 8s and 9s in their mid 20s in one weekend. No exaggeration.

I am not in the top 1 out of 10,000 in looks;
I date women 10-20 years younger.

So let's get to the truth Dave. You're scared shltless. As much as you fear failure, you fear success with hot young women even more.

are you drunk this morning?

You make like 700K a year, are 8% BF, tall and muscular and are a legit 9/10 in looks. You're top 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percentile of the male population

I'm curious how the average guy who makes 40K a year, is 25% BF and is a 5/10 in looks able to date nowadays

 

[guru1000]

are you drunk this morning?

You make like 700K a year, are 8% BF, tall and muscular and are a legit 9/10 in looks. You're top 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percentile of the male population

I'm curious how the average guy who makes 40K a year, is 25% BF and is a 5/10 in looks able to date nowadays

Well, gosh, thank you Dave. Unfortunately, women online or in person are not aware of my income or status (though presentation speaks volumes). All they can go by is looks. Nor is your declaration or my silence as to my income my accedence.

The average guy you speak of dates average women give or take 1-2 points.

And 8s dates 6-10s;
And 9s date 7-10s;

Which would mean, if you were a 7 by your own admission, you would naturally date 5s - 9s.

Time for some soul-crunching analysis ...

Either:

1) You are not a 7 in looks as you believe;

or

2) You fear women to your own detriment.

Acknowledging your fear is the first step in releasing it. Second step is: What are you going to do about it other than cry "Wolf"?

 

[cola]

It's a numbers game dude. You think too much.

 

[bigdave17]

Well, gosh, thank you Dave. Unfortunately, women online or in person are not aware of my income or status (though presentation speaks volumes). All they can go by is looks. Nor is your declaration or my silence as to my income my accedence.

you're a 6+ tall, very good looking, lean and muscular extremely wealthy white guy. You're about the equivalent of someone born into a billionaire family.

The average guy you speak of dates average women give or take 1-2 points.

And 8s dates 6-10s;
And 9s date 7-10s;

Which would mean, if you were a 7 by your own admission, you would naturally date 5s - 9s.

Time for some soul-crunching analysis ...

Either:

1) You are not a 7 in looks as you believe;

or

2) You fear women to your own detriment.

Acknowledging your fear is the first step in releasing it. Second step is: What are you going to do about it other than cry "Wolf"?

you yourself said I was a solid 7.5!

my question with this thread is how are men my age doing it? its just baffling me. The women in this age range make the process astonishingly difficult. Is everyone doing the social circle thing and I can't get lucky with that?

After about 35, it becomes pretty much even with both genders putting in equal work to meet someone

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Here's the problem with the social circle thing, If I make a friend who happens to have a great female prospect in his social circle, he's going to be trying very very hard to get with her. I'm not going to be that ****ing prick to enter a new social circle and try to get with a girl my buddy is trying super hard to get with

Make female friends out of women you don't want to have sex/relationships with. Date their cute friends. Hell, you can even befriend gay guys and girls who know a f*ckton of gorgeous chicks and then get them to wingman for you. You're engineering the same situation as when a girl sets you up with her hot pal, which is dating smart.

Or just talk to guys you don't know well, get to know them well enough to get introduced to their circle and all the hotties in it. If they get butthurt because you date some chick they like:

1. You're not their best bud, so what?
2. They need to grow a f*cking spine and ask girls out themselves. No guy is entitled to a girl he hasn't even asked out.

Broaden your horizons, you don't only have to hang out with straight guys who are your competition - you can befriend anyone with some effort.

Girls orbit and friend-zone guys all the time. They do that because it expands their social circle and stokes jealousy among men, giving them value. YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I'm actually not looking for that at all

I would hate if the dating roles were reversed and I had tons of ugly or avg women asking me out. I would hate having to turn them down. I just want 1 girl who fits what I want and I'm happy being out of the dating world forever




not answering the question at all dude

How does the avg 24-29 year old male out there go about getting dates nowadays when the avg woman that age makes the process massively difficult?

Keep in mind I said AVERAGE. 99.99% of men are completely incapable of a successful cold approach.

Bigdave17 . This day and age you have to be a player. It's what's been marketed. If you don't have player ways you won't attract them . Stop trying to get a relationship . Something just popped in my mind today. I don't want no babe wasting my time or trying to talk to me unless she's trying to eff. Stop worrying about a relationship.

 

[bigdave17]

Make female friends out of women you don't want to have sex/relationships with. Date their cute friends. Hell, you can even befriend gay guys who know a f*ckton of gorgeous chicks and then get them to wingman for you. You're engineering the same situation as when a girl sets you up with her hot pal, which is dating smart.

I have one gay couple friend and they seriously hit on me 24-7 and can't stop talking about how much they want my **** in their mouth. They're cool but it gets a little uncomfortable

Or just talk to guys you don't know well, get to know them well enough to get introduced to their circle and all the hotties in it. If they get butthurt because you date some chick they like:

1. You're not their best bud, so what?
2. They need to grow a f*cking spine and ask girls out themselves. No guy is entitled to a girl he hasn't even asked out.

Broaden your horizons, you don't only have to hang out with straight guys who are your competition - you can befriend anyone with some effort.

I have mostly very masculine hobbies (sports, bodybuilding) so I get along the best with manly straight dudes

I rarely vibe that great on a platonic level with anybody outside of straight masculine dudes

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's a numbers game dude. You think too much.

ABC - Always be selling

He's no even on the sideline. He's watching from the stands and asking why they do that .

 

[bigdave17]

Bigdave17 . This day and age you have to be a player. It's what's been marketed. If you don't have player ways you won't attract them . Stop trying to get a relationship . Something just popped in my mind today. I don't want no babe wasting my time or trying to talk to me unless she's trying to eff. Stop worrying about a relationship.

most guys in relationships fail because they are needy, weak, soft, etc...

if you act like a man, you won't have any problems but that's just how I see it

 

[mrgoodstuff]

most guys in relationships fail because they are needy, weak, soft, etc...

if you act like a man, you won't have any problems but that's just how I see it

Everyone's getting cheated these days .

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

I have one gay couple friend and they seriously hit on me 24-7 and can't stop talking about how much they want my **** in their mouth. They're cool but it gets a little uncomfortable



I have mostly very masculine hobbies (sports, bodybuilding) so I get along the best with manly straight dudes

I rarely vibe that great on a platonic level with anybody outside of straight masculine dudes

Clearly your gay friend is f*cked in the head because it's not normal for gay people to hit on their friends constantly like that, like sex crazed lunatics. Politely tell him to knock it off or say "Not my scene, sorry.". I live in the UK equivalent of San Francisco, I've had plenty of gay friends and I've never had one start saying he wants my kn*b. Set boundaries - if you just don't say anything they're probably going to assume you're into it or something.

Yeah, I do "man stuff" as well...it's just a case of putting yourself out there. 90% of socialising is just listening to people talk about themselves anyway, they're not going to care either way whether you bodybuild like a maniac or if you bake cute pink cakes with little flowers on.

It's funny as well, almost every lesbian lady I've met has tended to be friendly and actively tried to hook me up with cute chicks. One of my good mates is a lesbian and she's gregarious, socially adept and very cool to hang out with. I think it's because being gay as a girl must force you to get very good at talking to people and countering all the negative stereotypes of angry butch women and all that BS.

Basically, imagine you had a cool female friend who really wants to get your d*ck in her horny straight friend's V and you're pretty much spot on for what a lesbian wingwoman can do for you.

 

[bigdave17]

Everyone's getting cheated these days .

nah, i know plenty of happy couples

the key is to be strong and not a ***** and date a genuinely great woman

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Well, gosh, thank you Dave. Unfortunately, women online or in person are not aware of my income or status (though presentation speaks volumes). All they can go by is looks. Nor is your declaration or my silence as to my income my accedence.

The average guy you speak of dates average women give or take 1-2 points.

And 8s dates 6-10s;
And 9s date 7-10s;

Which would mean, if you were a 7 by your own admission, you would naturally date 5s - 9s.

Time for some soul-crunching analysis ...

Either:

1) You are not a 7 in looks as you believe;

or

2) You fear women to your own detriment.

Acknowledging your fear is the first step in releasing it. Second step is: What are you going to do about it other than cry "Wolf"?

Bigdave17 looks good enough to pull babes in Chicago . His vibe he shows us in the pictures is not going to work though .

 

[mrgoodstuff]

nah, i know plenty of happy couples

the key is to be strong and not a ***** and date a genuinely great woman

That's the key, a "great" women . Where are they?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

nah, i know plenty of happy couples

the key is to be strong and not a ***** and date a genuinely great woman

Don't worry about relationships for now. Embrace being single .

 

[CBear]

not answering the question at all dude

How does the avg 24-29 year old male out there go about getting dates nowadays when the avg woman that age makes the process massively difficult?

Keep in mind I said AVERAGE. 99.99% of men are completely incapable of a successful cold approach.

Idk dude, I live in the burbs half an hour away from Chicago as well and I don't really see too many happy relationships. Maybe superficially they look great but you look deeper and theres a lot of **** wrong. Many times the "average" dudes either compensate by dating a less attractive girl (whom they usually meet through friends or school or work and just ask them out after briefly getting to know them or getting in touch again) or are with hot chicks who seemingly use them for security and go out banging other dudes behind their back. Most relationships that I know of that are still o.k. happened when the chick straight up gave a guy her number or they were originally just f*ck buddies but a guy ended up just giving more and more of his time, thus indirectly starting a relationship.

 

[bigdave17]

That's the key, a "great" women . Where are they?

my best friend is dating a beautiful Lebanese dentist

she is an amazing amazing person

 

[Alvafe]

I'm looking for ethnic women silly. I want like an Armenian or Lebanese or Puerto Rican girlfriend. Those ladies don't want a white guy, they want the dark olive complexion and black hair like I have



Between face, body, fashion sense...I'm usually one of the top 3 to 5 guys at any bar I go to

I had this gay married couple the other day ask me - "how are you not aware of how incredibly good looking you are?". I get compliments on a daily basis sometimes. Keep in mind I'm much much better looking in real life than pics

really should I say you dating strategy is retarded enough now? or should I wait more garbage, self pity crying here before? you go out and find a girl you find hot, not asking where her family is from.


now on a serious note i'm the only one who is sure he is lying so much its not even funny anymore? worse is if any newbie belive on this crap