do you think the dating scene overall favors men?

[BeExcellent]

"(...) These women are very nice, agreeable and a joy to be around, which is why they have boyfriends (...)" - dunkey, guide to girls

Understood. I didn't say that the hot + sweet women are easy to get with. They have ridiculous choice and men tend to grab hold if they find one...because they don't come along all the time as it is.

 

[The Duke]

Huh? you sound like you're from the 19th century dude. Have women been telling you what you want to hear? lol.

Its a generality. But here are some stats from techaddiciton.com:
-Men are more than 6 times likely to view porn than women, and more likely to spend more time viewing it.
-70% of men view p0rn sites monthly vs. 30% of women.
-Visit your local adult video/p0rn store sometime if you think its anywhere near 50/50.

Study up on psychology and you'll learn men are much more visual OR you can make schitt up that doesn't hold water. Women's sexual thoughts aren't triggered visually like mens. This is why I said what I did. I bet you send cahk shots to new girls don't you! ;-)

Here is some reading for you:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...01205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women

 

[AttackFormation]

Its a generality. But here are some stats from techaddiciton.com:
-Men are more than 6 times likely to view porn than women, and more likely to spend more time viewing it.
-70% of men view p0rn sites monthly vs. 30% of women.
-Visit your local adult video/p0rn store sometime if you think its anywhere near 50/50.

Study up on psychology and you'll learn men are much more visual or just make schitt up that doesn't hold water. Women's sexual thoughts aren't triggered visually like mens. This is why I said what I did.

Here is some reading for you:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...01205/the-triggers-sexual-desire-men-vs-women

30% of women is almost one third, and 70% of men viewing it means that 30% don't. That alone shoots down the statement that "men like porn, women don't". And I bet if it weren't for the fact that women have easier access to sex, then that number would go up further while mens' would go down if they did. How many of those guys are there because they have no one to fvck? and then how many women?

 

[Urbanyst]

Of course. Nobody is debating that. The problem seems to be you do not see the subset of women who are both hot and pleasant to be around. Many hot women are emotionally immature demanding princess syndrome types who never were taught to emphasize anything other than their appearance.

So when you settle for those (the looks only group) you have the resultant opportunity cost of missing out on the women who are both pretty/hot/attractive (however you want to define physically appealing) AND nice/sweet/good personality/smart etc., and this will skew you viewpoint because you won't believe hot women who are also sweet/nice/smart etc. exist.

More blue pill sh*t.

The HOT and nice women are unicorns. If they were common, we would not be having this conversation lol.

You're going to tell ME what the market is like? Get real. How many women have you dated?

LOL.

 

[AJ84]

usually you do like her and then you stop liking the main thing you liked about her and there's nothing else/left

the female equivalent is when the guy you mostly like for money/status loses his job or for his looks/muscles starts getting fat then you may end up realizing that all the other stuff you liked about them was fluff/window dressing you don't really give a **** about

True. That's why when people focus on solely unsustainable traits like looks money status, it can fall apart if that's all that the relationship was based on. Of course for men and women only looking for hook ups, personality and character are not as important but for LTR there has to be more than just LMS to keep a genuine interest and emotional investment.

 

[AJ84]

Too bad a lot of women don't understand this lol.

The novelty wears off for women too.

 

[AJ84]

Of course. Nobody is debating that. The problem seems to be you do not see the subset of women who are both hot and pleasant to be around. Many hot women are emotionally immature demanding princess syndrome types who never were taught to emphasize anything other than their appearance.

So when you settle for those (the looks only group) you have the resultant opportunity cost of missing out on the women who are both pretty/hot/attractive (however you want to define physically appealing) AND nice/sweet/good personality/smart etc., and this will skew you viewpoint because you won't believe hot women who are also sweet/nice/smart etc. exist.



That isn't what I think at all. Men are visual and men are sexual. Women need to understand this through and through. There is no excuse for a good looking woman who gets lazy and lets herself go. Ever.
That in my opinion is a disservice to her man, and an embarrassment to herself. But very few women make the effort required (regular work out regimen, conscientious diet, fashionable clothing and accessories) year in and year out for decades to maintain beauty and sex appeal. Those who do? They have men who are proud to be with them and if they are single? They have choices.



Of course not. I'm talking about HIGH VALUE men.



It's not a shaming thing at all, lol. I've always come to the dating environment from a place of a certain baseline of required characteristics or I'm not going out with a man (or not going out with him a second time) and those characteristics are good looking/ambitious-successful/dynamic personality/sexually attractive. In other words I don't go out at all with a man unless I'd look at him as a potential LTR, and for me personally the LTR candidate has to be someone I am sexually attracted to, and who I enjoy hanging around with but those 4 traits I noted are ALL REQUIRED or I'm OUT. I've dropped good looking successful men before for dud personalities and/or lack of sexual attraction. And I've always appealed to men who met my criteria (as I met theirs)...so I always operated under a different assumption and looked for the whole package right off the bat rather than sacrifice on any of my baseline criteria. I pass over lots of men because I am patient that way. Few men meet all those criteria, but I don't complain about it, I just NEXT quickly and keep the opportunity to meet the right type of man open.

I was surprised to see a high value man sacrificing on his standards just for sex/beauty, but then again high value guys can continually pull new women, so that makes sense. Right up until the point that after a awhile hot sex and beauty isn't enough, and becomes unfulfilling. That's what Paul Janka talks about after getting his lay count up around 250 hot women, and that's what I hear from the guys in my peer group (40's and 50's) who have been there, done that, got the t-shirt and also gotten disillusioned because they burn out after a while.

Obviously some men sacrifice on the personality side of things in favor of hotness (perfectly understandable), and obviously there are women who sacrifice on the sex appeal to get a "good guy". I think both approaches are short sighted and ill advised and have an end result of dissatisfaction (because somebody didn't hold to their standards) and this dissatisfaction is what leads to dead end marriages and stale relationships.

And who wants something that is not satisfactory? Not me.

Good points.

Hot women who have their sh*t together and are nice tend to get into LTRs, and don't settle for being some guy's plate. So you don't meet many of them for dating.

 

[Urbanyst]

Good points.

Hot women who have their sh*t together and are nice tend to get into LTRs, and don't settle for being some guy's plate. So you don't meet many of them for dating.

Which type of woman are you?

 

[AJ84]

Which type of woman are you?

I'm a failed contestant from The Biggest Loser type woman.

 

[devilkingx2]

I'm a failed contestant from The Biggest Loser type woman.

Is it true that fat chicks give excellent head

 

[AJ84]

Is it true that fat chicks give excellent head

Yes, because fat women have no gag reflexes due to the frequency and speed of which they can shovel food down

That's horrible lol I'm sorry my cousin is actually obese I should not be making fun of fat people. But if you want I can ask her what her secret is for giving great oral

 

[devilkingx2]

Yes, because fat women have no gag reflexes due to the frequency and speed of which they can shovel food down

That's horrible lol I'm sorry my cousin is actually obese I should not be making fun of fat people. But if you want I can ask her what her secret is for giving great oral

That was a 10/10 joke, i love it and I'm stealing it

I'd prefer her number, netflix n pie n chill

 

[Urbanyst]

I'm a failed contestant from The Biggest Loser type woman.

Quick question.

Why don't you improve your health?

 

[bigdave17]

IMO, I would much rather be a male over 30-35 than a woman over 30-35
I would much rather be an ugly or fat man than fat or ugly woman


but nothing compares to being an attractive woman under 35. That's the absolute top of the social hierarchy

 

[AJ84]

Quick question.

Why don't you improve your health?

I was joking. I'm not fat.

 

[Urbanyst]

I was joking. I'm not fat.

Are you single?

 

[AJ84]

Are you single?

Married and a mother.

Plus I'm not your type. I'm circling the drain at the geriatric age of 33. Barf right?

 

[devilkingx2]

Married and a mother.

Plus I'm not your type. I'm circling the drain at the geriatric age of 33. Barf right?

Ooh hi Mommy i can appreciate a good MILF if he can't

hahaha

 

[sosousage]

Ooh hi Mommy i can appreciate a good MILF if he can't

hahaha

stop giving attention to women before sex

 

[Urbanyst]

Married and a mother.

Plus I'm not your type. I'm circling the drain at the geriatric age of 33. Barf right?

Why are you here?