What's the truth on online dating??

[bigdave17]

Everybody on PUA forums says that your only chance of success on dating sites is to be incredibly funny/witty/off the wall kind of stuff on both your profile and the messages. Simple and straight forward will net you horrible results but my friend who is a good looking dude but is 5'4 found a girl he is in love with on a dating site with a very simple/basic profile and message. She is a 29 year old beautiful Lebanese dentist - fantastic person through and through. I think they're gonna get married

So what's the truth on dating sites??

 

[synergy1]

I don't have the truth about online dating sites, but can offer insight based on my experience.

- Where you are will dictate success. If there are more attractive women competing, this helps your odds. This is obvious. The converse is also true. If there are either a lot of dudes, or a lot of ugly women, it will be harder in general.

- women with a lot of options stay interested for a very short time. Its on the span of days. If a women wants to date after a week, she has a high interest level. This seems rare.

- Men where I live set the bar low. If the bar is low, this will make women incredulous about dating or not engage on dating sites regardless how you come off.

- Women love to get free things and will often go out just to get a free meal. They might not talk to you again.

- Women will lose interest immediately if you don't fit certain characteristics. If they are primarily interesting in attraction, height is an issue. Other times, they want a recycled version of the guys she dated in the past. This person can be a normal dude, more of the cheating type. Doesn't matter.

- If you can be funny, your odds are much better. Boring conversations often lead to luke warm dates. Good conversations lead to better dates.

 

[ohrein]

The truth is there are very few quality women, but they do exist and OLD can work.

I forced myself to use Tinder because two of my best buddies found girlfriends on there. One of the girls I consider a friend who I'd go out of my way for, she's top quality. It took me a year but I too found a gem among the crowd. There are quality women on Tinder, they're just rare. Here's my recipe for Tinder success. Decide what you want first because that will dictate your profile/first interactions with chicks. I wanted to find a nice girl with a potential LTR so my profile and photos were geared towards that.

- Humor. In the profile, early in conversation. You are aiming for fun at every interaction early on. I can't tell you how much making a chick laugh will get you laid.
- I liked to talk a little on Tinder to see if they were worth meeting. I'd open with a question or funny comment on something in their profile or photos. I tried a bunch of openers but this was by far the highest quality responses.
- If they meet your standards and are responding with interest, ask for their number. I'd normally do this after one conversation. If she's taking ages to reply between each message, I never had much success, although it also wasn't zero.
- After you get their number you immediately organize a date. I tried a few first dates but settled on a time limited couple of drinks during the week in a public place. This works on so many levels. It's low cost and low investment. If it's "a drink or two to see if we like each other" you can end the date short if you need (My shortest was 30 minutes with a catfish). You actually get to know the chick because you can talk to her. Public place and time limit makes her comfortable. And it's what I personally enjoyed as it's how I spend time with my friends.
- First dates were usually deal breakers 90% of the time. I went on one second date with one girl and then met my gf later on. In a year. Keep this in mind because you can get a false sense of success. If you're less than three dates in, there are zero guarantees.

Now if you're just looking to hook up, you can disregard all the screening and dating. You get the number and just ask her to come over. Not too difficult because if your profile has made it clear you're interested in hooking up and she's given you her number then, yeah....

 

[sosousage]

Everybody on PUA forums says that your only chance of success on dating sites is to be incredibly funny/witty/off the wall kind of stuff on both your profile and the messages. Simple and straight forward will net you horrible results but my friend who is a good looking dude but is 5'4 found a girl he is in love with on a dating site with a very simple/basic profile and message. She is a 29 year old beautiful Lebanese dentist - fantastic person through and through. I think they're gonna get married

So what's the truth on dating sites??

need ripped body for old

 

[ohrein]

need ripped body for old

No you don't. It helps, it's not a requirement. Source : I'm not ripped.

 

[sosousage]

No you don't. It helps, it's not a requirement. Source : I'm not ripped.

and chicks there have mental problems. i date from time to time from OLD but its generally very sick place, negative women there only

 

[ohrein]

and chicks there have mental problems. i date from time to time from OLD but its generally very sick place, negative women there only

Black and white thinking. I have seen plenty of evidence that contradicts your claims. You are wrong. Women on OLD for the most part are lower quality, but not all of them are. It helps if you are ripped but you don't need to be. Enough with the self defeating, binary thinking. It's pathetic. If all you can attract is chicks with mental problems then the common denominator is you.

 

[sosousage]

Black and white thinking. I have seen plenty of evidence that contradicts your claims. You are wrong. Women on OLD for the most part are lower quality, but not all of them are. It helps if you are ripped but you don't need to be. Enough with the self defeating, binary thinking. It's pathetic. If all you can attract is chicks with mental problems then the common denominator is you.

i didnt say all of them. i said "chicks there"

 

[edegoge]

I don't like dating sites because I feel they make me less confident and less outgoing IRL.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Everybody on PUA forums says that your only chance of success on dating sites is to be incredibly funny/witty/off the wall kind of stuff on both your profile and the messages. Simple and straight forward will net you horrible results but my friend who is a good looking dude

The PUA's are lying to you. You don't need any of that stuff if you're a chad. Most of the women have unrealistic standards. 80% of men on these sites are cannon fodder.

 

[ohrein]

How about adaptation instead of trying to fit into an archetype? You guys think in such absolute terms, it's really hurting your game.

 

[Murk]

I think the problem with OLD for some of you guys is you have no game. Simple as that, you don't know how to talk to women. Then you blame women for being superficial or psycho. Self awareness is so crucial, don't be blind to your own faults.

 

[sosousage]

I think the problem with OLD for some of you guys is you have no game. Simple as that, you don't know how to talk to women. Then you blame women for being superficial or psycho. Self awareness is so crucial, don't be blind to your own faults.

this is only true to small extent. online dating is not fair for most men because of its nature. 90% men get nothing, top 10% men get everything, and 80%women get much higher quality boyfriend than they are. its hidden prostitucy

 

[ohrein]

this is only true to small extent. online dating is not fair for most men because of its nature. 90% men get nothing, top 10% men get everything, and 80%women get much higher quality boyfriend than they are. its hidden prostitucy

It's 80/20 for hypergamy, not 90/10, and that's an over simplified explanation of what's happening because hypergamy does not rely solely on physical and monetary attributes. I'm not in the 10% or even the 20% and I do fine on OLD. If you're below average, you might struggle to get 8/9/10 but that's just life.

 

[bigdave17]

It's 80/20 for hypergamy, not 90/10, and that's an over simplified explanation of what's happening because hypergamy does not rely solely on physical and monetary attributes. I'm not in the 10% or even the 20% and I do fine on OLD. If you're below average, you might struggle to get 8/9/10 but that's just life.

I'm in the top 0.1% of men for money and 20% for looks and I doubt I would have any success for online dating

 

[wolf]

60-70% of people on OLD have Mental issues. Both Men and Women and that's not even factoring in the ones you will find attractive.

Perect hunting ground for Narcissists and Borderlines as they can be anyone they perceive to be until the mask comes off.

If you screen hard then you should be fine.

 

[Fzatf]

I'm in the top 0.1% of men for money and 20% for looks and I doubt I would have any success for online dating

If you doubt your success from the get go, you're rejecting yourself before you even give women a chance to. Put yourself out there and utilize online dating as a part of your tools. Keep approaching in real life but spend a little time on online dating at the same time.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Men think it is unfair that women on OLD get 99 messages a day, most of which are something like yo wudup u dtf.

Men are so jealous of that! We all wish we got propositioned for sex a hundred times a day. But that is not what women want, even the ones who are down to fvck. So the game for them is sorting through all the attention - most of which will come off as horny, creepy, and desperate, or simply boring at best. You set yourself apart as a man if you can avoid those extremes.

 

[bigdave17]

If you doubt your success from the get go, you're rejecting yourself before you even give women a chance to. Put yourself out there and utilize online dating as a part of your tools. Keep approaching in real life but spend a little time on online dating at the same time.

it's just very very difficult dude


1)you're competing with a billion very tall and attractive men

2)it's very difficult to be funny and charming and charismatic with online messages, you have no body language