Only way to get this sexual harrassment movemnt to stop is for men to sue back...

[marmel75]

Companies are afraid of lawsuits which is why men are at a disparate disadvantage in these situations, even without proof. Accusations are enough often times to have companies let a guy go because they can't "risk" facing a lawsuit from a woman.

The only was to shift the pendulum back to the middle is for guys to start suing not only the companies but the women for allegations when they are not true. Or in situations when the women has started it.

Enough is enough. Men need to stop putting up with this and bring this back into balance. This whole sexual harrassment BS has taken on a life of its own.

Are there some legit instances of sexual harrassment? Absolutely. But now the floodgates have opened so everyone and their sister are claiming sexual harrassment in an atempt to get a quick money grab and their 15 minutes of fame. We need to reject this and show them there are consequences for this. Right now they are just in a rioting and looting stage.

 

[jaymbrs]

Are you saying we should counter sue? Or sue whenever we feel sexually harassed by a woman?

 

[El Payaso]

I was thinking the same thing too.

 

[princesimba]

why is it then that no men has sued back yet? Surely if they could do it they would have done so already

 

[Bible_Belt]

Surely if they could do it they would have done so already

Yep. It has to do with burdens of proof and civil procedure rules that control who has a chance to win and who doesn't. If you were falsely accused and wanted to sue the woman, the burden is on you to prove that the harassment did not happen. Good luck proving a negative. The only way that would happen is if she screwed up and confessed that she was lying, especially if there were criminal charges. Absent a confession, you're never going to be able to offer up the required proof.

 

[marmel75]

why is it then that no men has sued back yet? Surely if they could do it they would have done so already

Don't get me wrong..I'm sure some of the cases...maybe even more than half of them they are legitimately guilty of sexual harassment.

But the other ones? Its not sexual harassment to ask a woman out at work...its harrassmemt to CONTINUE to ask her once she has already said no. I think there are too many instances of really weak he said she said cases turning into harassment when in reality nothing wrong happened. Companies always will vote with whoever has the potential to coar them the most money in a lawsuit and clearly that is women at the moment.

Women also feel its cool to "harass" guys in the same manner they dont want to be harassed tho and it rarely gets reported and ever rarer does anything happen behind it even if it is...because its assumed guys "enjoy it"...the power balance is squarely with women in these situations.

 

[zekko]

Women also feel its cool to "harass" guys in the same manner they dont want to be harassed tho and it rarely gets reported and ever rarer does anything happen behind it even if it is...because its assumed guys "enjoy it"...the power balance is squarely with women in these situations.

To be honest, the guys usually do enjoy it,at least on some level. But there is a big double standard here. If you follow this through to its natural conclusion, women will be allowed to flirt and men will not. It's like an online dating site where only women can choose. Female waitresses will call you "honey" and "sweetheart" and put their hands on you, and no guy will ever complain about it.

 

[princesimba]

Yep. It has to do with burdens of proof and civil procedure rules that control who has a chance to win and who doesn't. If you were falsely accused and wanted to sue the woman, the burden is on you to prove that the harassment did not happen. Good luck proving a negative. The only way that would happen is if she screwed up and confessed that she was lying, especially if there were criminal charges. Absent a confession, you're never going to be able to offer up the required proof.

So once again we come back full circle to "there's nothing you can do once accused".

Perhaps as fastlife said, not having a "nice guy" public image is the best defence.

That and having more female friends. Only thing that can stand against a woman's testimony is the testimony of another woman.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Jameis Winston (QB for TB Buccaneers) did sue a woman who accused him of rape: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/09/us/jameis-winston-counter-lawsuit/index.html. But this is the only instance I know of involving a high-level celebrity.

Women are going to sink their own ship on this. Companies will stop hiring them, ironically the good looking ones, because of the risk they pose. Then all the feminists will ***** about it being a "man's world" again even though they have created their own mess with all the BS accusations.

It should be MANDATORY that if a woman is going to accuse anyone of sexual harassment, the woman NEEDS TO introduce herself to the general public. None of this detroying a man's life s*hit and then trying to remain anonymous. That is absolute bull s*hit.

How can there not be a growing misogynistic viewpoint growing among all men? I'm slowly becoming one of them. I think women are absolutley full of s*hit these days and act as little more than an occasional sex partner.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

It's always been this way. This is why OBGYNs have ladies in the room when doing exams. It's not to make the patient feel better. It's to provide a potential witness against any later false claims.

Best defense is a good offense. Watch your back.

 

[Who Dares Win]

The only firewall against this bullshi1t is a high status inside the group and women ready to support you in case you are struck, this prevents liers to attack you and create a shield if they do.

Making it clear that you would rather beat someone to the ground in a dark alley rather than being fired or arrested is an other option to make sure no woman targets you with fake accusations.

Worst thing you can do is being a nice guy with only guy friends at work, and if you happen to be short or ugly good luck with that.

 

[Glassguy]

I agree with this post. Most, if not all of these cases begin with the woman starting the flirty behavior and bringing the man in like a mouse to cheese. Then he realizes he is on a mouse trap. It goes from consensual to harassment when the man gets the pvssy and the woman feels as if she wasn't properly compensated.

 

[skinnyguy]

Don't get me wrong..I'm sure some of the cases...maybe even more than half of them they are legitimately guilty of sexual harassment.

But the other ones? Its not sexual harassment to ask a woman out at work...its harrassmemt to CONTINUE to ask her once she has already said no. I think there are too many instances of really weak he said she said cases turning into harassment when in reality nothing wrong happened. Companies always will vote with whoever has the potential to coar them the most money in a lawsuit and clearly that is women at the moment.

Women also feel its cool to "harass" guys in the same manner they dont want to be harassed tho and it rarely gets reported and ever rarer does anything happen behind it even if it is...because its assumed guys "enjoy it"...the power balance is squarely with women in these situations.

According to CNN and most media outlets, you’re guilty of sexual harassment if you tell a woman she has a nice shirt on

 

[zekko]

According to CNN and most media outlets, you’re guilty of sexual harassment if you tell a woman she has a nice shirt on

That sounds crazy, but I guess any discussion of her appearance can be off limits. Where the heck are all these insane level protections for men?

 

[Mike32ct]

That sounds crazy, but I guess any discussion of her appearance can be off limits. Where the heck are all these insane level protections for men?

I know. The sad part is that you can’t even give an honest complement on her clothing. I have a female coworker that is a very sharp/fashionable dresser. She frequently says to me, “Looking sharp Mike” when I wear my suit. That’s fine. But I can’t compliment her back.

 

[Mike32ct]

The only firewall against this bullshi1t is a high status inside the group and women ready to support you in case you are struck, this prevents liers to attack you and create a shield if they do.

Worst thing you can do is being a nice guy with only guy friends at work, and if you happen to be short or ugly good luck with that.

If a guy isn’t good looking, maybe one option at work to gain female allies is to FULLY embrace the friendzone. Never flirt or compliment, but be friendly with neutral chat. It doesn’t matter if she thinks he is AFC or gay. The guy can still gain female allies that know he is harmless.

The prior (MGTOW-ish) advice was to avoid talking to women at work except for work-related matters. Perhaps that isn’t good advice for shy or less attractive guys. If such a guy avoids women too much, then even those limited work-related conversations might be awkward or slightly creepy.

TDLR: Hiding from women isn’t the answer. Even the most fugly guy needs allies. He still needs to fluff talk with them about neutral topics to make them comfortable. I’m just brainstorming or “thinking out loud” here.

 

[Who Dares Win]

If a guy isn’t good looking, maybe one option at work to gain female allies is to FULLY embrace the friendzone. Never flirt or compliment, but be friendly with neutral chat. It doesn’t matter if she thinks he is AFC or gay. The guy can still gain female allies that know he is harmless.

The prior (MGTOW-ish) advice was to avoid talking to women at work except for work-related matters. Perhaps that isn’t good advice for shy or less attractive guys. If such a guy avoids women too much, then even those rare work-related conversations might be awkward or slightly creepy.

TDLR: Hiding from women isn’t the answer. Even the most fugly guy needs allies. I’m just brainstorming or “thinking out loud” here.

Agree on that, thats the tactic I usually use when Im going out with mixed groups that I just met.

I understand that I lack the look or the cool vibes to get their sympathy and support therefore I just ask them open questions and pretend to care when they bore me to death, I even compliment them on senseless stuff like the elegant way they deal with the waiter or how they present themselves much better than the other women in the place...its enough to have their support if I try to pick one of the girls or some guy tries to amog me, they usually fight for me against him, which is a great thing if you're not bigger dog there.

 

[princesimba]

If a guy isn’t good looking, maybe one option at work to gain female allies is to FULLY embrace the friendzone. Never flirt or compliment, but be friendly with neutral chat. It doesn’t matter if she thinks he is AFC or gay. The guy can still gain female allies that know he is harmless.

The prior (MGTOW-ish) advice was to avoid talking to women at work except for work-related matters. Perhaps that isn’t good advice for shy or less attractive guys. If such a guy avoids women too much, then even those limited work-related conversations might be awkward or slightly creepy.

TDLR: Hiding from women isn’t the answer. Even the most fugly guy needs allies. He still needs to fluff talk with them about neutral topics to make them comfortable. I’m just brainstorming or “thinking out loud” here.

Conclusion: Men can't even avoid women now. Women are now judge, jury and executioner. Only way to win is to fill the jury with your people.

Yes guys, we now live in a World where only women can bear witness and testify. Let that sink in for a while.

Congrats feminists. You win, again. Before I draw my last breath I swear to God I will see the day where the last feminist is put to the sword and the Patriarchy restored or I will die trying

 

[Urbanyst]

Conclusion: Men can't even avoid women now. Women are now judge, jury and executioner. Only way to win is to fill the jury with your people.

Yes guys, we now live in a World where only women can bear witness and testify. Let that sink in for a while.

Congrats feminists. You win, again. Before I draw my last breath I swear to God I will see the day where the last feminist is put to the sword and the Patriarchy restored or I will die trying

What's funny about feminism is if men didn't allow it to happen, there is really nothing women could of done about it lol.

Think about it. If men just left the laws alone and kept being pigs while treating women as second class citizens.. what could women have done to stop it? Nothing really.

We gave women the keys to the kingdom and now they are using this new power against us.

 

[Glassguy]

According to CNN and most media outlets, you’re guilty of sexual harassment if you tell a woman she has a nice shirt on

CNN = Fake news